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terranosaurusdoug

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Are there any real benefits to fitting wheel spacers?, do they improve off road traction?, do they knacker your ride quality?, do they wear your tyres prematurely?, how will tin tin escape this time?, Oops :D

Mark.
 
I've heard it talked about on here that they stress the rest of your suspension/steering compnents and can cause them to fail. Other than that I've not had any experience of them.
 
personally I would not go that route, and I do not think your insurance Co would like em either, Rick
 
Yeh I've heard bits and bats about them putting extra strain on components, suppose in essence you giving the wheel extra leverage!

Never thought of insurance, I can't be doing with that hassle!

I admit the only reason I would fit them is for the look, but I aren't vain enough to knacker my motor.

I'm sure I read somewhere in my owners manual that they created it as a narrow track vehicle to aid off road performance, that's what's got me thinking so hard, starting to hurt now :lol
 
Being narrow does indeed give it helpful off road ability, narrow lanes and narrow gates for example.

Of course the insurance companies do like to make money out of us too.
 
I've been running on billet steel hubcentric spacers for a few years now with no issues.
It's true they will put extra load on the bearings and steering components. So far I have had no ill effects but I will be changing to a better offset wheel when funds allow.
There is not much difference in price. I have lifted mine so my reasons for spacers is to widen the track to try and retain some stability as my centre of gravity is higher than standard.
 
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I wonder how narrow wheel track aids traction?
 
I was chuckling at the bit that said "deep water or mud", Nissan obviously didn't know you lot when they wrote that.

:lol
 
I run spacers but on another vehicle, ive never run them on my patrols as they are a wide track.. My other truck does however does run big tyres and spacers and this equates to wheel bearings being a regular service part. I have just bought some wider offset rims and will be changing and taking the spacers off when i buy new tyres. I needed the spacers to clear the inner wing and chassis on full lock however i will be chopping and modifying that at some point aswell unless i find a swb y60 y61 patrol in the mean time. So personally i would go with wheel offset rather than spacers -30 or something or make a jig and and cut and re weld the centres back in (id suggest using a qualified welder for that)..
 
Sounds like a lot of hassle for a better look, that's the only benefit I would get, I don't run massive tyres or owt!
 
Wheel spacing experience from the 60's

When I was a teenager I modified my first Mini an 850 cc model with standard kit including the floor mounted starter button, dipswitch & long 2 ft gear lever.

As I could not afford a Cooper initially I did what you did back then. I fitted an S.P.Q.R. gearshift convertion so it looked like the later gearbox.
Changed the indicator switch to incorporate the dip switch and fitted a key start ignition switch. Added go faster stripes completed the picture.

Trouble was even though the original 4.0 J steel rims shod with Dunlop SP3 tyres looked the part (painted in yellow & purple!) it just needed some Cooper wheels - in those early years alloys had not really been a widespread affordable option until Dunlop Alloys came on the market.

The solution was easy fit some longer wheel bolts and some 1" spacers and the rims would be closer to the wheelarches and look great.

So one weekend I set about the task first problem was fitting the longer wheel bolts but eventually the deed was done. I convinced myself that not only did it look cool but it cornered better.

About 6 months later my first front wheel bearing collapsed followed soon after by rear wheel bearing noises that even my loud stereo could not hide. Also discovered that my front tyres were being ground down on hard cornering due to catching the bodywork.

Eventually sourced some front discs, driveshafts & hubs and S rear brakes that had a spacer built into the rear drum. Everything was fine then but it was a costly experience.

The only time I use spacers now is where I am fitting wheels not designed for the vehicle. e.g. Our Merc SL had the original 16" diam wheels and I wanted to change them to 17" wheels but the Merc SL wheels were incredibly expensive. I was offered a set of Merc E class wheels but the offset was wrong so they would not clear the front discs / hubs. I sourced some German spacers that had the correct wheel facing profile machined in them that returned the offset to within 1 mm of the correct wheels. The E class wheels were brand new & relatively cheap. This meant that the extra wheel width was spaced equally either side of the wheel hub face.

http://www.driverstechnology.co.uk/wheel-offset.htm
 
Thanks macabethiel, amplified by a LOT more weight sounds like a wallet emptier, that's a great link bud, thanks again :thumbs
 
The only spacers I would use are hubcentric ones:thumbs both spacers or bigger off set wheels will both put a little extra load on things:augie having a wider track does have it's benefits in making the motor a bit more stable. I like my alloys a lot so hubcentric spacers will be the only option if I want to widen the track friends of mine have used them for years on their R20's on or off road & when towing & never once have they had any problems with them
 
Thanks sweety :thumb2, I like my alloys too, my aim is to make my truck very capable off road but looking as standard as possible.

Do you know why towing might be dodgy using spacers, madmark said something bout it in his post on spacers!
 
I'm running 30mm spacers.
Not had any problems or issues towing with mine.granted I don't do it on a regular basis but there you go.
 
i suppose the extra load on the vehicle if heavily towing could cause something to wear prematurely :nenau
 

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