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Cant see why not. The seat mountings must be the same throughout the range and even if theres no wiring on yours a fuse, a relay , switch and a bit wire will be perfectly ok :thumb2
 
They are good. Mine have two settings. The missus likes the hot but she's cold blooded anyway :D I just leave mine on low and its one of those things where youre not actually conscious its on but your nice and comfy :thumb2
 
Thomas-the-Terrano2 said:
call me mean but im not helping any 2bys. unless friends/family.

got to think of liability and cost of fuel/parts.

great listening to radio folks appealing for a kind 4x4 to take them
to a wedding or funeral. and soft twats offering to help same
nimby anti 4wd brigaders.

my troll was less than 5 grand as was t2 before it conscious choice
to buy could have spent more on some useless sports saloon.

oh and thinking of ringing radio and asking if any of these sporty
numbers will be free for a blast round donnington park in spring
what are my chances....
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I tend to agree but its a hard call to make sometimes :nenau
 
Thomas-the-Terrano2 said:
call me mean but im not helping any 2bys. unless friends/family.

got to think of liability and cost of fuel/parts.

great listening to radio folks appealing for a kind 4x4 to take them
to a wedding or funeral. and soft twats offering to help same
nimby anti 4wd brigaders.

my troll was less than 5 grand as was t2 before it conscious choice
to buy could have spent more on some useless sports saloon.

oh and thinking of ringing radio and asking if any of these sporty
numbers will be free for a blast round donnington park in spring
what are my chances....
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well said that man! they are trying to tax us off the raod and fuel costs are ridiculous, again! our exhausts are the source of all the worlds woes, yet when the snow trickles down we are suddenly in demand! just because we were brave enough to weather the abuse from the media!

though i suppose some might say that a bit of a helping hand here and there would soften peoples hearts toward 4x4's, but either way if this is the pattern of winters to come I think many people will be forced to think again!
 
It's a pity we couldn't get a sticker made something to the effect....
'Why 4x4..remember January 2010'
 
lacroupade said:
Oh and I'm going off the boil a bit on the old Jeep......:augie

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/6942082/Most-reliable-4x4s-revealed.html
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Dont, the validity of that report depends on the data they looked at. A knowleagble report will separate the Cherokee and the Grand Cherokee (the data the telegraph comments on doesnt so its flawed straight off). They are significantly different. I dont know for sure but I dont think they even come from the same production line.

Then when you look at Grand Cherokees they need splitting down by age and engine. Generally pre 1999 seems to have had more problems. I dont know what date the swap over was but the old diesel (3 litre?) was not errr....much loved, some of the petrol engines i am told are problematic. The intro of the merc 2.7 tdi changed some of that. Thats why I jumped in when I spotted mine for sale. To date it hasnt disappointed.

Parkers give one run of grand cherokee 4 stars out of 5 for reliability http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/reviews/jeep/grand-cherokee-1999.aspx
and the Terranos many of you are happily running 3 1/2 stars http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/reviews/nissan/terrano-1993.aspx

How do you interpret that :thumbs

The warranty direct data used points more towards repeated occurences of warranty funded repairs on a model so lets take the Terrano MAF. Its a minor irritation rather then a major problem but if every one that conked out was claimed under warranty from them the terrano would get a massive hit and look very bad whilst the fact of the matter is thats not correct.

Dont forget as well the data is collated from warranty direct. Therefore theres no data from main dealers and retailers who underwrite their own cars or use someone like Olympic warranties. or even more so someone like me who haggles a deal and doesnt boter with a warranty (sale of goods act covers most points anyway)

On my car theyve had problems with servos sticking on the climate control. That would be a mega claim. However the reason is labour. Wheras I'm not bothered sitting all saturday taking the dash to bits and fitting a £50 servo, at a dealer that would cost you nigh on £800 :eek: so for me again its a pain but not a big problem.

As far as Jeep build quality goes, (style is purely taste, one mans meat is anothers poison) it is excellent on the 02 one I have. On an "engineering" type assesment of the build , everything works, nothings rotted or dropped off that I can find. On a nice note, its the first car of this age I've had with no rattles and squeaks. It realy is that well screwed together.

I'll admit, I'm pleasantly surprised :)
 
daved said:
Dont, the validity of that report depends on the data they looked at. A knowleagble report will separate the Cherokee and the Grand Cherokee (the data the telegraph comments on doesnt so its flawed straight off). They are significantly different. I dont know for sure but I dont think they even come from the same production line.

Then when you look at Grand Cherokees they need splitting down by age and engine. Generally pre 1999 seems to have had more problems. I dont know what date the swap over was but the old diesel (3 litre?) was not errr....much loved, some of the petrol engines i am told are problematic. The intro of the merc 2.7 tdi changed some of that. Thats why I jumped in when I spotted mine for sale. To date it hasnt disappointed.

Parkers give one run of grand cherokee 4 stars out of 5 for reliability http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/reviews/jeep/grand-cherokee-1999.aspx
and the Terranos many of you are happily running 3 1/2 stars http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/reviews/nissan/terrano-1993.aspx

How do you interpret that :thumbs

The warranty direct data used points more towards repeated occurences of warranty funded repairs on a model so lets take the Terrano MAF. Its a minor irritation rather then a major problem but if every one that conked out was claimed under warranty from them the terrano would get a massive hit and look very bad whilst the fact of the matter is thats not correct.

Dont forget as well the data is collated from warranty direct. Therefore theres no data from main dealers and retailers who underwrite their own cars or use someone like Olympic warranties. or even more so someone like me who haggles a deal and doesnt boter with a warranty (sale of goods act covers most points anyway)

On my car theyve had problems with servos sticking on the climate control. That would be a mega claim. However the reason is labour. Wheras I'm not bothered sitting all saturday taking the dash to bits and fitting a £50 servo, at a dealer that would cost you nigh on £800 :eek: so for me again its a pain but not a big problem.

As far as Jeep build quality goes, (style is purely taste, one mans meat is anothers poison) it is excellent on the 02 one I have. On an "engineering" type assesment of the build , everything works, nothings rotted or dropped off that I can find. On a nice note, its the first car of this age I've had with no rattles and squeaks. It realy is that well screwed together.
I'll admit, I'm pleasantly surprised :)
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whereas paullllllyyyyyyyyyyyys beemer z4 gayboy hairdresser wagon...
has bits of card all over the interior to stop the rattles and squeeks...

sadly he's not found anything to shut the screeeeeeech up LMFAO
 
extreme-4x4 said:
whereas paullllllyyyyyyyyyyyys beemer z4 gayboy hairdresser wagon...
has bits of card all over the interior to stop the rattles and squeeks...

sadly he's not found anything to shut the screeeeeeech up LMFAO
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Ooooh is that the sound of a little green monster I hear? Maybe Miss Eastbourne would like to come for a ride in the pashwagen and check out my gearstick? LMAO!:thumbs

And LOL at the size of Dave's post. :lol:lol:lol:lol

Oh well, I can't hang around here entertaining you lot all day - DIY beckons :(:(:(
 
extreme-4x4 said:
so you dont deny the card , fixing the rattles and squeaks then :D
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lmao.

I have to say the Jeep is the only car of this age I've ever had (especially where I've taken it to bits and tried to put it back the same :naughty:naughty ) that doesnt have any dashboard trim rattles that I can hear :D

tbh spurious articles like the telegraph one really piss me off. Theyre nothing but a snapshot picture and serve little purpose.

You must also remember the 2 best ways to mislead people,

either lie or give them "statistics" :thumbs
 
rayf3262 said:
Food for thought; I was contemplating retro fitting seat heaters too, seats come apart easily enough, and I think for the sake of a tenner butchering one of these from Maplin may be a good start....certainly a lot cheaper than most of the commercial offerings....

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=350286&C=MS&U=storage
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Careful ray, the MkIV has got active head restraints and seat side airbags, check for the tags sewn on to the seat and headrest......I'd fiddle at your peril....:eek:
 
lacroupade said:
Careful ray, the MkIV has got active head restraints and seat side airbags, check for the tags sewn on to the seat and headrest......I'd fiddle at your peril....:eek:
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Not quite sure how the insurance company would view a claim if something melted or caught fire either :augie:D


Ps I didnt know you had a Z4 :augie I thought it was a blokes BMW you had ?
 
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