Recovery point conundrum

[BongoBerry]

Hiya

Just been looking at the rear of the Terrano and noticed that the towbar assembly blocks off the holes where one would attached a shackle for a rear recovery.

I've never been one to use the towball as a recovery point.

Suggestions to what to do

Piccies

 

[BongoBerry]

Hiya

Just been looking at the rear of the Terrano and noticed that the towbar assembly blocks off the holes where one would attached a shackle for a rear recovery.

I've never been one to use the towball as a recovery point.

Suggestions to what to do

Piccies

Maybe one of these?
http://www.towsure.com/product/1817-Universal_50mm_Tow_Coupling

 

[Adz]

Yeah that would be better but theres nout wrong with what youve got

 

[BongoBerry]

Yeah that would be better but theres nout wrong with what youve got

Adz, you saying use the towball or those weeny holes

afaik you use towballs for recovery at your peril

 

[Adz]

Done loads of off roading 'when' i had a tow bar with no problems :nenau

 

[BongoBerry]

Done loads of off roading 'when' i had a tow bar with no problems :nenau

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaeFw_8-ylY

 

[Adz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaeFw_8-ylY

Thats just stupity.!
Kenetic rope & gradual power.!

Why not just drill the holes through if you want shakles.?

&

It looks like youve made ya mind up to get a ball'n'pin...

 

[BongoBerry]

stupidity or no, it does happen.

up until about an hour ago, i never knew the tow ball and pin options existed, which in truth does make for a more responsible solution to my problem.

considering i read on here that some nutters are selling 4T rated ones for 150 quid, 45 quid doesn't seem too bad

still open to suggestions that don't include "leave it as it is, it will be fine gov, honest"

Towballs are not rated for recovery - simple in my mind - however each to their own

 

[Adz]

Just go with the ball'n'pin
But
You haven't said as to how much or what type of off roading ya going to do
If its only occasional then the one you have will be fine :thumbs

 

[solarman216]

Well I have to say after watching that video of a guy towing!! another out of the water, what an absolute plonka, anyone who snatches like that should not be allowed near a recovery site, if he worked for me he would be sacked with no second chance, that is no way to treat, recovery kit, and as for the danger of whiplash, I shudder to think, a real bull at a gate attitude, aside from the damage to both vehicles, and that has nothing to do with all hitches, Rick

 

[makeitfit]

You dont even need to be "off roading" to find out that a tow ball aint up to it
On the beach last night we had to pull out a jeep wrangler that had got bogged down in the wet sand. It was as good as concreted to the ground
If you give that some welly when towing it out with say a kinetic rope several tonnes of load will make for interesting viewing:augie
I noticed on my kinetic rope it has a working load of 8 tonnes, which is a lot more than a cast ball hitch will take I reckon
Dont like the look of those youtube clips, ouch

 

[briggie]

is it possible to bolt the u bolt thingie ( technical term ) somewhere else ? :nenau

 

[BongoBerry]

was just the first clip i laid my hands on, have heard of a few occasions when it has happened under different circumstances. many of which started off with "not sure why that happened, have done the same recovery loads of times without an issue"

would be an interesting fact (if not slightly macabre) to calculate the potential velocity of a towball snapping off at 8T's worth

 

[MudLifeCrisis]

I wouldn't think the recovery point is rated to 8 tonne either.


Its the kinetic rope that is the problem.

 

[makeitfit]

I wouldn't think the recovery point is rated to 8 tonne either.


Its the kinetic rope that is the problem.

Why:nenau

 

[MudLifeCrisis]

Why:nenau

The recover points (which are used to bolt the towbar to ) will probably not be rated to 8 tonne so will snap the same as the towball.


The towball is ok as long as it is used for what it was designed for . Pulling 2.8 tonne

The rope is the problem as there is nowhere suitable to attach it to.

Brian

 

[makeitfit]

Well I dissagree a bit
The eyes/ recovery point where the tow bar bolts on to the chassis is mega strong (no idea in tonnage agreed) . It is a fixed point and not bolted on or anything:nenau so is designed for "recovery"
As long as reasonable precautions are taken when using kinetics I think they're a brill bit of kit

 

[MudLifeCrisis]

Well I dissagree a bit
The eyes/ recovery point where the tow bar bolts on to the chassis is mega strong (no idea in tonnage agreed) . It is a fixed point and not bolted on or anything:nenau so is designed for "recovery"
As long as reasonable precautions are taken when using kinetics I think they're a brill bit of kit

Thats the problem. Some think they can just pull the earth with them , no thought of safety.

I would think the recovery points are only rated to about 2 tonne . The weight of the car and a bit for good measure , enough to pull it onto the recovery truck when it breaks down on the school run .

Brian ;O)

 

[makeitfit]

Hmmmm, I'll make some enquieries:augie
Where should you recover from/to then?
Surely the sheer breaking strain of 5mm steel is pretty huge though

 

[MudLifeCrisis]

Hmmmm, I'll make some enquieries:augie
Where should you recover from/to then?
Surely the sheer breaking strain of 5mm steel is pretty huge though

Have to agree but looking at that video that could have been pulled out without the need to use so much force.

There is a substitute for power , it's called skill.

Brian