Racism in Britain today.

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one thing confuses me , if the bnp/edl et al are so popular and hold the views of the majority of the country ..... why are they not in government ? ..... could it be that the majority of the population dont agree with their policies ? .... surely not :eek:...... or maybe they dont have enough confidence in fielding a candidate ? :rolleyes:....or perhaps they dont support democracy ?

and what confuses me is, why some people stand up for these immigrants, some are justifiably welcome, but the type who only come here to bleed the system dry, are in my opinion not welcome, perhaps you (pete) and some other immigrant lovers on here, could put up a family of god knows how many, so OUR children can have homes of their own, because my kids cant get a poxy council house because they are given to the immigrants first. what do you reckon any offers to house the aliens.
 
Racism shows an extreme and unpleasant lack of intelligence IMO.
There are plenty of things to judge a person on, colour of skin is not one of them.

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a major difference of course being the law :thumbs

and the law also extents to bullying........like calling people ginga, fatty etc when it is meant in a derogatory hurtful or intimidatory manner. Just so happens that racially motivated is the one thats needed specific legislation to get the unjustified attacks in hand. Thats mainly down to the bigots creating the problem.

Point of all this is we all have different perceptions and prejudices. If you didnt you wouldn't belong to the human race.

The difference comes in when you express those prejudices and they become discriminatory or your grown up enough not to.

You'll notice most racists have a very narrow understanding of the big wide world and are very easily knocked back.

As far as the how about the forced marriages and kidnap question, the message from home office and acpo is crystal clear. They are unacceptable.

What been done about them? shed loads, that very subject happens to fall within my missus specialist role. Describing her as proactive is an understatement. However most racists will never have spoken to a rep from an asian group or the victim of a forced marriage so I wouldnt expcet them to know or understand any of it. Thats bigotry for you.

Most racists who dont like the word or seeing it debated ususally dont have anything much to contribute beyond "send em back" and "why do you support them" two very bland sweeping wide open questions :doh:doh

Dont know if its really one for a nissan forum but good debate plank :thumb2
 
the type who only come here to bleed the system dry, are in my opinion not welcome


Agree without reservation if thats their purpose in being in the country, but its not just them who are shafting the system.


some other immigrant lovers on here,

Now that really is an interesting statement. Nowhere, but nowhere on here have I seen anyone declare carte blanche love for immigrants :nenau
 
one thing confuses me , if the bnp/edl et al are so popular and hold the views of the majority of the country ..... why are they not in government ? ..... could it be that the majority of the population dont agree with their policies ? .... surely not :eek:...... or maybe they dont have enough confidence in fielding a candidate ? :rolleyes:....or perhaps they dont support democracy ?

awww come on Pete, you now theyre a credible main stream democratic party. I mean just look how well their leader did on question time ...........
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there are some members on here that should visit that shanty town, i reckon they would get on well,:lol, not for long though.:augie:thumb2

nawww far too violent and noisy, gave that sort of thing up years ago. I like to live a little more comfortably nowadays

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Now that really is an interesting statement. Nowhere, but nowhere on here have I seen anyone declare carte blanche love for immigrants :nenau

I'd do the Cheeky Girls. Does that count? :lol
 
no where at all have i said i am a imigrant lover , i am however anti racist.... a subtle difference
 
perhaps a better question to ask is ... what do you consider to be truely english society
 
we shouldnt have immagrants they are suposed to claim asylum in the first eu country the come to,so why are they all sat in france waiting to come here froggies dont want em and shouldnt be in france as its never the first eu contry.
 
we shouldnt have immagrants they are suposed to claim asylum in the first eu country the come to,so why are they all sat in france waiting to come here froggies dont want em and shouldnt be in france as its never the first eu contry.


I dont think theres anyone would dispute with you the fact that those who cant get in lawfully to contribute should be allowed in :nenau subtle difference between that and racism.

Actually its about as subtle as a sledgehammer with a dayglo handle..........
 
this what you mean plank ?

a major difference of course being the law :thumbs

Racial Hatred
The Public Order Act 1986 contains the offences of inciting or stirring up racial hatred. It prohibits the use of threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or displaying any written material which is threatening, abusive or insulting with the intention of stirring up racial hatred or where racial hatred is likely to be stirred up.

Racial hatred is defined as hatred against a group of persons in the United Kingdom defined by reference to colour, race, nationality - including citizenship - or ethnic or national origins.

An offence may be committed in a public or a private place. No offence is committed however, where the words or behaviour are used, or the written material is displayed, by a person inside a dwelling and are not heard or seen except by other persons in that or another dwelling. The inadvertent use of words that are threatening, abusive or insulting is not an offence. A police officer may arrest without a warrant anyone he or she reasonably suspects is committing the offence.

There are other offences of publishing or distributing material; presenting or directing a play; distributing, showing or playing visual images or sounds; broadcasting a television programme, except programmes transmitted by the BBC; or distributing a cable programme with the same characteristics - that is, being threatening, abusive or insulting - and which is either intended to stir up racial hatred or likely to have this effect.

In addition, it is an offence to possess racially inflammatory material unless ignorant of its contents. The police can obtain a search warrant for such material and magistrates can order its forfeiture.

The Crime and Disorder Act 1998 gave statutory force to the idea of ‘racially aggravated offences’, and in 2001 this Act was amended to include religiously aggravated offences. Racially or religiously aggravated offences include assault, criminal damage, public order offences and harassment. An offence is racially or religiously aggravated if:


•At the time of committing the offence, or immediately before or after doing so, the offender demonstrates towards the victim of the offence hostility based on the victim’s membership – or presumed membership – of a racial or religious group.
•The offence is motivated wholly or partly by hostility towards members of a racial or religious group based on their membership of that group.
I f a person is convicted of the racially or religiously aggravated form of assault, criminal damage, public order offence or harassment, then the court has increased sentencing powers. In relation to other offences, if the offence is racially or religiously aggravated the court is required to treat it as an aggravating factor, that is, a factor that increases the seriousness of the offence.
 
No theyre just tacky gold diggers, I always thought you had more class (despite driving a micra) :D

actually i lied, I stood behind them in the shop queue at Leigh Delamere services once ...two words....bad skin :D
 
we dont need immagrants weve enough unemployed yoof to train to any job,the fact we do is down to a useless labour government who ruined everything they touched and made several regions in the world so unstable you risk your life going to local market!
 
we dont need immagrants weve enough unemployed yoof to train to any job,the fact we do is down to a useless labour government who ruined everything they touched and made several regions in the world so unstable you risk your life going to local market!

then use your vote if you arent happy , thats what happens in a democracy
 
bnp do not field a candidate in my area and edl are not a polictical party nf dissapeered kkk not doing a lot hitlers dead so not much choice.people who support such partys are usally from lower incomes and do not have the benefit of union funding plus the established partys fear the competition and supress/try to ban them
 
bnp do not field a candidate in my area and edl are not a polictical party nf dissapeered kkk not doing a lot hitlers dead so not much choice.people who support such partys are usally from lower incomes and do not have the benefit of union funding plus the established partys fear the competition and supress/try to ban them

Thats probably because the labour party were shown as weak during the 70s, superseded in 80s-90s then tried to transform and failed badly losing the plot and their reason for being in the 90's until last year.
 
bnp do not field a candidate in my area and edl are not a polictical party nf dissapeered kkk not doing a lot hitlers dead so not much choice.people who support such partys are usally from lower incomes and do not have the benefit of union funding plus the established partys fear the competition and supress/try to ban them

so why exactly dont the bnp field a candidate in your area ? , surely a party with allegedly majority views should be able to fund its own campaign with its massive support then become elected
 
the laws the law but it cant change the way we think.. i dont chose to dislike paki's and hate gays but i will always be thinking like that.. you just started this thred to cause trouble.. ya tit

I'm not sure no how to do multiple quotes so I'll have to address things one at a time, sorry!

Larson, Yes i may be a Tit, (I'm sure it's not a racist term) though it does have many meanings in different languages, and agreed this thread is controversial. - But - you don't have to join it mate, you could say NO! :thumbs
 

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