Police Enquries making some progress

[macabethiel]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-41876308

The local police have now interviewed the person from whose property the firework was discharged. He has named a guest who had brought along his own rockets to the Barbecue and Bonfire Party held at the property.

Hopefully this will enable them to identify the firework that caused so much damage to our house and if it was of a type that should have been discharged from a private dwelling.

Hope to know the outcome over the next few weeks it has taken a long time to get this far.

 

[jims-terrano]

Hopefully the Police will get to the bottom of what happened. Much as I don’t believe in the nanny state I strongly feel fireworks should be licensed to organised displays. I can’t imagine the people that discharged the firework expected this to happen either, misguided maybe or probably. Might even be due to faulty manufacture you may never find out.
Hopefully since your wifes interview life is beginning to settle into some kind of normality and the pain is beginning to be a little easier to live with. Though how you begin to sort through that lot is beyond me Ted.

Must be time for a pupdate on your other thread.

 

[don simon]

I don't see the point of them.
Organised events only.
I may have said before, but I had some kids throw a banger into the cockpit of my Spitfire as I was driving around town with the roof down.
Let's hope that the police get the guilty and use this as a tool to prevent others being tools.

 

[Lazy-Ferret]

Ironically not long after this happened there was a Christmas film on tv where a guy ( Danny Davito, I think) "over" decorated his house with lights and music. The guy across the road bought illegal fireworks and sat on his roof firing them at the house with lights.

All I could think about was your poor house.

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[terranosaurusdoug]

Unfortunately it's more proof that many of our country's population aren't responsible enough to handle a pointy stick, let alone an explosive device, I also think fireworks should be banned.

I hope you guys get things sorted soon.

 

[Banshee]

Glad it's all coming together now mate, I hope they can pin him for it!!! :thumb2

 

[macabethiel]

Police Enquiries now completed - No further action

The Police have now interviewed the householder who had the bonfire party from which the offending firework was discharged who named an attendee who brought his own rockets one of which set fire to our home.

They are satisfied that the firework in question was suitable for home use. That it had malfunctioned in such a way that instead of reaching full height and exploding it decided on the way back to earth to explode on contact with our roof instead.

Although I know I know the identity of the Householder the Police have declined to disclose to me at this stage who discharged the firework using Data Protection and the lack of any Criminal Offence as reasons for this refusal.

I will be interested to see if my Insurers have better luck in identifying those involved.

TBH I never expected anyone to face charges unless the firework was one suitable for organised displays only.

 

[jims-terrano]

I guess it would of been difficult to prosecute too but at least the people concerned have had their collars felt so to speak.
I still think fireworks are for trained people and organised events with correct license and PL. Imagine the cost of tickets for events and the cries of nanny state.
Anyway I guess the New Year will start a new chapter in your lives and I’m sure all will go well. Must be about time for a “pupdate” too:thumbs

 

[kitchenman]

Worth having a go, claim he was negligent, he should have aimed it towards a part of the sky with no properties beneath
Use a freedom of information request to get his details, you have good grounds for the request

 

[solarman216]

I do not think it acceptable for him not to be prosecuted, you fire off a device of any type and it does damage you are responsible, the house owner will also bear a responsibility for allowing the use of his garden, pursue it, I would, do not rely on the police they are not worth likity split these days, Rick

 

[macabethiel]

Causation Yes, Negligence - difficult

Worth having a go, claim he was negligent, he should have aimed it towards a part of the sky with no properties beneath
Use a freedom of information request to get his details, you have good grounds for the request

I am pretty sure that if I make an application on the grounds of wanting to make a civil claim that they will supply the information.

The reality is any claim is unlikely to succeed as although I can prove causation proving negligence will be more difficult. The person who discharged the firework will blame the firework manufacturer as it did not discharge in the manner it was designed to. If the firework was manufactured abroad - end of the road.

 

[macabethiel]

I do not think it acceptable for him not to be prosecuted, you fire off a device of any type and it does damage you are responsible, the house owner will also bear a responsibility for allowing the use of his garden, pursue it, I would, do not rely on the police they are not worth likity split these days, Rick

At the moment I am awaiting reply to a request I made to the householder for his insurance details and of the person who fired the firework. No data protection issues if he does as I have asked.

I believe that my insurers can ascertain who insurers his property as there is a national data base that insures use to reduce fraud and to help people who have a fire and can't access paperwork as it has gone up in smoke so as to speak.

I wanted to give him and his mate something to think / worry about over Christmas even if it all goes nowhere.

 

[kitchenman]

does not matter where it was made, the sale of goods act takes care of that
Shop insurance should cover it. If you sell anything you need product liability insurance
Talk to an ambulance chaser type legal company