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http://www.cars-directory.net/specs/isuzu/bighorn/1995_6/13544/

even the trooper is quicker to 60 than the tdi only by a few points of a second

but the bighorn has more power and a higher top end :naughty

actually looking at the trooper citation specs that does seem a bit slower than the horn as that has less power and torq odd

i got it the bighorn has a electronically controlled pump and not a manual unit like the trooper


I had a drive of several troopers before buying the T2 and before buying the Jeep (also drove the old monteray was the vauxhall version?) all diesel and a lotus tricked version of my mates. I have to say that as an all round usable truck the T2 is vastly superior imho irrespective of points of a second on paper.

None of the troopers can hold a candle to, except maybe to the dust of, a 2.7 grand cherokee for on the road manners and turn of speed.

Have to be quite blunt, if isuzu need to employ a sports car company to bring handling up to the point achieved by most bog standard trucks (unless its just a gimmick?), theres not much point in the academic difference in grunt anyway.

;)

One truck i really did like when i had a shot was an amazon :thumb2:naughty
 
Dirty Frog will be back on the road tomorrow :sly :naughty :D
Its only a turbo :augie

As tezzer knows :thumbs I'm not sure what i want as my second 4x4 :eek: :doh

ahh i do know what you want, but it's getting one for the right price. :thumbs:cool:
 
ahh i do know what you want, but it's getting one for the right price. :thumbs:cool:

Its the cash as ya know :(
Defender 90 200tdi has to be top on all off roaders list :rolleyes:
My problem is Dirty Frog was always going to end up a full time off roader :sly
So the 2nd 4x4 will be the every day ride & green laner...
That terrano, if its just the hubs, although over priced, looks mint as mine did when i 1st got it :eek: & all I would do to it is 30" Insa Turbo Sahara's, Snorkel & a winch.
If anything went wrong then Dirty Frog would be the doner...
 
http://www.cars-directory.net/specs/isuzu/bighorn/1995_6/13544/

even the trooper is quicker to 60 than the tdi only by a few points of a second

but the bighorn has more power and a higher top end :naughty

actually looking at the trooper citation specs that does seem a bit slower than the horn as that has less power and torq odd

i got it the bighorn has a electronically controlled pump and not a manual unit like the trooper

so have you got a link for the engine specs of the "Horn" and then we can work out a power to weight ratio. Just for fun of course!

the best i can find is this - http://carinfo.autold.com/car-isuzu_bighorn-31-td-long-ls.html

and yor right the "horn" has 12 more horse powers than the standard 3.1, but still less than my TDI and a lot heavier!
 
I had a drive of several troopers before buying the T2 and before buying the Jeep (also drove the old monteray was the vauxhall version?) all diesel and a lotus tricked version of my mates. I have to say that as an all round usable truck the T2 is vastly superior imho irrespective of points of a second on paper.

None of the troopers can hold a candle to, except maybe to the dust of, a 2.7 grand cherokee for on the road manners and turn of speed.

Have to be quite blunt, if isuzu need to employ a sports car company to bring handling up to the point achieved by most bog standard trucks (unless its just a gimmick?), theres not much point in the academic difference in grunt anyway.

;)

One truck i really did like when i had a shot was an amazon :thumb2:naughty


cant say the volvo amazon lights me up :lol:lol:lol

how does having the road handling tuned by lotus make any difference at all, also this was only for the Japanese market.

right hold on here

how many Companies have taken the t2 as a car to sell ??? what nissan and ford bout it really aint it

now the trooper, vauxhall, Subaru, isuzu, acura, honda, holden and chevrolet

also the trooper has actually won rallies and Australian safari's unlike the t2

the t2 is a great 4x4 but in no way superior to any part time 4x4
 
so have you got a link for the engine specs of the "Horn" and then we can work out a power to weight ratio. Just for fun of course!

the best i can find is this - http://carinfo.autold.com/car-isuzu_bighorn-31-td-long-ls.html

and yor right the "horn" has 12 more horse powers than the standard 3.1, but still less than my TDI and a lot heavier!

already put a link up

horn has 133bhp with 294nm of torq

you link is for the ls version mine is the lotus se
http://www.cars-directory.net/specs/isuzu/bighorn/1995_6/13544/
 
this thread is becoming nearly as exciting as the darts world championship :naughty
 
I know its a Nissan forum but I wouldn't go buying a 94 LWB truck with intermittent 4wd problems for the best part of a grand for off-road use and leave a solid swb 4x4 that seems in great mechanical order and perfect for off-road use sitting in the drive. A truck that nice deserves to be drrrriiivvvvvvveeennnnn :sly :sly
 
Had a 3.0 Isuzu,went very well - for about 3 months then the High pressure oil pump started leaking,and then,and then !Gone it has,far away.
But in a past life I had two Isuzu pick ups,a 1.9 and 2.5 non turbo.Indestructable.
 
I dont know about on road stuff but OFF ROAD my Mav will P all over a Trooper:D
A mate of ours has one with some fancy suspension lift from the states, and although it's got loads of grunt, it still hasn't got enough to get it out of the rough stuff compared to me Mav. Just my observation:)
T2 with fuel chip is cheap fun:rolleyes: Put some decent seats in and sorted:cool:
 
i think the clue is in the title of the forum ... the nissan 4x4 owners club ... i doubt very much that you will find many that will knock the nissans on this forum , with due respect karl .
 
Lads...

Start another thread on this ISUZU $hit pls :eek: :augie

Get back on topic :rolleyes:

Would you swap the Pajero for the Terrano " if " its just the hubs :confused:

NO cash involved.

If its just the hubs a straight swap is fine by me even though I know the Terrano in A1 condition isn't worth nowhere near as much as me Pajero.
 
Lads...

Start another thread on this ISUZU $hit pls :eek: :augie

Get back on topic :rolleyes:

Would you swap the Pajero for the Terrano " if " its just the hubs :confused:

NO cash involved.

If its just the hubs a straight swap is fine by me even though I know the Terrano in A1 condition isn't worth nowhere near as much as me Pajero.



personally i wouldnt , but thats just me , keep dirty frog for your hobbies
 
All I can say is my 2.4 petrol T2 has not been anywhere near stopped by anything it has faced so far and all the horses and all the torque will be of no use if it cannot be put to the ground, Rick
 
I dont know about on road stuff but OFF ROAD my Mav will P all over a Trooper:D
A mate of ours has one with some fancy suspension lift from the states, and although it's got loads of grunt, it still hasn't got enough to get it out of the rough stuff compared to me Mav. Just my observation:)
T2 with fuel chip is cheap fun:rolleyes: Put some decent seats in and sorted:cool:

i dont know the off road side of it tb has i haven't bee to a play and play site in the trooper

althou where i killed the mav the horn would have survived

lane wise the horn has a bumpier ride as it has hard suspension but it has gone the same places as the mav and has done it the same as the mav

but also bear in mind you lot are talking tdi's and i had a td mav

the horn will sit on the motorway at 70mph (sat nav speed ) at around 2500rpm the mav wouldnt have been happy doing this speed.

i like the mav but i would prefer a land cruiser
 
Lads...

Start another thread on this ISUZU $hit pls :eek: :augie

Get back on topic :rolleyes:

Would you swap the Pajero for the Terrano " if " its just the hubs :confused:

NO cash involved.

If its just the hubs a straight swap is fine by me even though I know the Terrano in A1 condition isn't worth nowhere near as much as me Pajero.

answer no i wouldn't personally
 
i think the clue is in the title of the forum ... the nissan 4x4 owners club ... i doubt very much that you will find many that will knock the nissans on this forum , with due respect karl .

no one's knocking the t2 :thumb2
 
the horn will sit on the motorway at 70mph (sat nav speed ) at around 2500rpm the mav wouldnt have been happy doing this speed.
I think that's where the fuel chip makes such a huge difference. I'll cruise at 70 on my big wheels happily at 2500 too, in 5th and it still has the clout to pull away at will in that gear.
I think it's Timbo that said the T2 is terribly underfueled:eek:
"Landcruiser" mmm nice choice, better than a Paj. ;)
 
if your paj was a auto , and lwb i may have been interested in a trade myself adz ,purely for the fact that my new wheelchair is a bit bigger than my old one and i could do with a bit more space in the back to put it in , question is though the accesability . ie height for me getting in and out of it , thats one of the reasons my mistral is perfect .
 

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