not a good start

[briggie]

so ..... I was due to pick up my new motobility car on Friday , but I got a phone call from the dealer telling me that it had been recalled by citroen due to a safety issue ..... the bonnet catch can come loose / open , as a result citroen wont allow me to have it until its rectified .... the dealer has no idea how long this will take ...... meanwhile I'm allowed to drive Florence until its sorted ......... not a good start is it ?

 

[jims-terrano]

Oh bugger:doh

Hope its not too long pal.

 

[Lazy-Ferret]

You would think in this day and age, something as simple as a bonnet catch should be pretty mundane even for the lowliest of designers, how they can mess that up, goodness only knows...

Hope there is nothing complicated like a steering wheel, or brakes on the car they could have messed up as well....

 

[emjaybee]

You would think in this day and age, something as simple as a bonnet catch should be pretty mundane even for the lowliest of designers, how they can mess that up, goodness only knows...

Hope there is nothing complicated like a steering wheel, or brakes on the car they could have messed up as well....

Thats hilarious...

...you actually still think car design is controlled by engineers!

Accountants dear chap!

Accountants.

Cars are built down to a price, not up to a spec!

This is why most cars have "issues", X-trail diesel ingines, Navara chassis, Ford Ecoboost engines, Vauxhall water pumps, Transit fuel systems, Passat handbrakes, etc., etc., etc.!

:nenau

 

[Banshee]

Thats hilarious...

...you actually still think car design is controlled by engineers!

Accountants dear chap!

Accountants.

Cars are built down to a price, not up to a spec!

This is why most cars have "issues", X-trail diesel ingines, Navara chassis, Ford Ecoboost engines, Vauxhall water pumps, Transit fuel systems, Passat handbrakes, etc., etc., etc.!

:nenau

:lol

So accurate

 

[solarman216]

Been that way for a long time, it effects all areas, including Plumbers/Builders merchants etc if an item does not shift X number per week, it is no longer stocked and has to be ordered in, makes life very difficult, Rick

 

[macabethiel]

Even so called "Engineered" Vehicles like Mercedes are flawed.

Having worked at a Main MB dealer for the last 12 years I can confirm what others have said it's accountants and spreadsheets that rule the roost.

The olden days of vehicles being tested globally for over a 500,000 miles are long gone. If a manufacturer can save 10 p on a component for a production run globally of say 2 million vehicles that is a saving of £200,000 then they will opt for the saving.

A classic has been the petrol flap on Mercedes Cars that has been pretty much the same for the last 25 years. You push against the front of the flap and it opens - works brilliantly.

About 3 years ago the design was changed with a small plastic button much like a soft close kitchen drawer fitted inside the flap. Nice in the summer when you push the flap in slightly and hey presto it opens - or not as is the case in the winter or by the heavy handed. Old system had an emergency manual lever inside the boot. New system "Nada " QED !

Modern vehicles are tested by the first Tranch of owners and then the annual face lift are work in progress each revision during a model 3 or 4 year cycle being fixed for faults that should never have gone to market !

 

[melissachels]

Thats hilarious...

...you actually still think car design is controlled by engineers!

Accountants dear chap!

Accountants.

Cars are built down to a price, not up to a spec!

This is why most cars have "issues", X-trail diesel ingines, Navara chassis, Ford Ecoboost engines, Vauxhall water pumps, Transit fuel systems, Passat handbrakes, etc., etc., etc.!

:nenau

it wasn't me :doh

 

[Terrano Steve]

You would think in this day and age, something as simple as a bonnet catch should be pretty mundane even for the lowliest of designers, how they can mess that up, goodness only knows...

Hope there is nothing complicated like a steering wheel, or brakes on the car they could have messed up as well....

I think this is a valid point & building a car down to a price which then needs to be recalled can not be that profitable :nenau, but I am no accountant.

 

[macabethiel]

Accountants and Stylists !!

I think this is a valid point & building a car down to a price which then needs to be recalled can not be that profitable :nenau, but I am no accountant.

Trouble is by the time the lesson has been learnt that accountant has left and another arrives so they keep re-inventing the wheel so as to speak.

They are the Butterfly Managers that go from flower (firm) to flower(firm) before the truth ever catches up with them. Then there are the designers like Chris Bangle who come up with a new look for a vehicle - the sale drop. He leaves before the true legacy of a good design bears it's long term fruit.

I remember when the Ford Sierra first came out everybody called it the Jelly Mould and it took years to be accepted.

 

[rustic]

Mind you Pete, had you had a Renault Clio, they would have let you have the car with the bonnet fault well documented, and they would do nothing about it, until "Watchdog" get involved.
So... I would be happy knowing the car was perfect when handed over, and I would hope they would recall the car, as and when required, should there be any other issues.

I know which french car I would opt for lol.
:thumb2

It doesn't take away the disappointment though.

Do you have a new name for the new car, can't be Florence, there was only one like that, and she served you well? .:thumb2

Rustic

 

[Banshee]

it wasn't me :doh

Brains and you mess with cars!!!!!! Your chap is a lucky beggar :bow

 

[melissachels]

Brains and you mess with cars!!!!!! Your chap is a lucky beggar :bow

I don't know about, complains I'm too independent.

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[Banshee]

I don't know about, complains I'm too independent.

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Sounds like he's too insecure [emoji38] You need a real man ........... RICKKKKKKKKK.........

[emoji38]

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[melissachels]

Sounds like he's too insecure [emoji38] You need a real man ........... RICKKKKKKKKK.........

[emoji38]

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I'm good, thanks

Briggie, it's better they sort it now rather than later. There a push on the automotive industry to clean up. :thumb2

 

[solarman216]

Sounds like he's too insecure [emoji38] You need a real man ........... RICKKKKKKKKK.........

[emoji38]

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Yea I wish she lived nearer, be more than happy, Rick

 

[briggie]

Mind you Pete, had you had a Renault Clio, they would have let you have the car with the bonnet fault well documented, and they would do nothing about it, until "Watchdog" get involved.
So... I would be happy knowing the car was perfect when handed over, and I would hope they would recall the car, as and when required, should there be any other issues.

I know which french car I would opt for lol.
:thumb2

It doesn't take away the disappointment though.

Do you have a new name for the new car, can't be Florence, there was only one like that, and she served you well? .:thumb2

Rustic

the working name for the new car ( when it arrives ) is Alice ( although that might change ) , she has got 10 bhp more than my current car !!!!!.... AND HAS A STAGGERING 100 BHP ..... oh and is ice white

 

[Blocky10]

the working name for the new car ( when it arrives ) is Alice ( although that might change ) , she has got 10 bhp more than my current car !!!!!.... AND HAS A STAGGERING 100 BHP ..... oh and is ice white

Hope things are resolved soon Briggie.
We all know her as Alice now!

 

[briggie]

well , still no news

 

[Banshee]

well , still no news

What a farce :doh