Noise Reduction

[JCH]

Whilst I fully appreciate that the Terrano produces a great deal of Engine noise,is there anyone who has attempted a noise reduction exercise,and if so what were the results.
The noise from my engine is acceptable until I go into fifth gear,then it is very noisy.
Engine runs very well indeed and I can achieve excellent top speeds when required.
Please let me know.

 

[macabethiel]

Engine / Gearbox noise ??

Whilst I fully appreciate that the Terrano produces a great deal of Engine noise,is there anyone who has attempted a noise reduction exercise,and if so what were the results.
The noise from my engine is acceptable until I go into fifth gear,then it is very noisy.
Engine runs very well indeed and I can achieve excellent top speeds when required.
Please let me know.

The noise level should drop when you go from 4th to 5th gear are you sure its not gearbox noise ? On modern 5 speed gearboxes 4th is a direct gear ratio of 1:1 but when you go to 5th the ratio will drop probably to something like 1:0.90 the actual gear ratios are in your handbook under technical data.

This means that that one of the gear shafts (layshaft) is rotating relative to the main shaft and that might be inducing a gear noise under the increased torque at the reduced r.p.m. some sort of bearing problem in the gearbox most likely. Have you changed the gearbox oil recently and checked for debris?

 

[AlexD333]

Suspect Gbox too, but do you have padding on the bonnet?

the later models were scrapped of it to save nissan a few quid :doh

 

[JCH]

Noise reduction

I bow to your knowledge, however It does not sound like gearbox noise, more like coming directly from the engine.
The gearbox oil has not been changed since I bought it two years ago.Should I feel any difference if I get it done.The gears themselves are very smooth.
Incidentally the main noise from 5th gear is only when my foot uses the accelerator.For example when zipping along a motorway with foot off the pedal the noise significantly reduces.Its like a clanking noise !!!!

 

[theron]

I get a bit of a whining noise from the transfer box while in 5th. Does the noise get worse if you push gently sideways on the transfer box gear lever?

 

[Banshee]

I bow to your knowledge, however It does not sound like gearbox noise, more like coming directly from the engine.
The gearbox oil has not been changed since I bought it two years ago.Should I feel any difference if I get it done.The gears themselves are very smooth.
Incidentally the main noise from 5th gear is only when my foot uses the accelerator.For example when zipping along a motorway with foot off the pedal the noise significantly reduces.Its like a clanking noise !!!!

Best thing I can suggest here mate is that you get someone to record from the inside of the car on a phone so we can hear it as you change through the gears, to those tuned in to the 2.7TDi engine tones we may be able to pick up on what you are hearing

 

[rustic]

So you have had the vehicle for two years, has the noise got worse over those two years, or are you just more aware of it and want to quieten it down?

Clearly if there is no major change, and you have covered lots of miles in those two years, then you can hopefully eliminate any gear box noises.

If the noise is getting worse month by month, then you can look into mechanical issues.

The exhaust bracket on the gearbox can loosen, and cause vibration.
The under engine tray bolts can loosen, and that can sound like a machine gun.
The front flexi joint on the exhaust can fail and give excessive noise.
But linking those to only fifth gear is unlikely.

Now, quite a few members use low ash mineral two stoke oil in the ratio of 200:1
This has been known to quieten the engine down, and improve the burn process, and some say, it also is said to reduce emissions.

I use it on my Td, and I have to say, it appears quieter.
Rustic:thumb2

 

[solarman216]

I would say if it is only 5th and a "clanking" noise then this has to be gearbox layshaft probably missing a tooth, 4th is direct drive, Rick

 

[Sweety]

There is a great deal of sound deadening products on the market if it was just normal road noise you wanted to cut down but those for car audio seem to work the best like mass loaded vinyl but can put up links if you want to look further into it but to do a T2 it would cost a bit to do:augie

 

[JCH]

Noise reduction

My French garage mechanic said it needs a replacement Pinion.Probably the same thing as Layshaft,lost in translation.
It is only Fifth gear that is noisy.
Says its 6 to 7 hours labour.And it will solve the problem. Any comments.

 

[rustic]

Here is another post that could help.


http://www.nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20304&highlight=layshaft

Try a search "layshaft" and there are loads of posts regarding this.

The general concensus is... add more gear box oil, GL4 and run it...
I suggested adding molyslip as well.

Certainly stripping the box is quite a task, and 7 hours labour is probably about right if they have done one before.
If I can recall, the gearboxes on the TD's are different to the Tdi's so if you choose to swap the box, be sure you get the right one. Also at the back of my mind, I think the input shaft assembly is different too, between the different types.

Now to be fair, I am speaking from memory of other peoples experiences over the years, as my box is still the original, as are most parts on my Mav.
To be fair, these trucks are very reliable indeed. :thumb2

Rustic