Need to Sell the Terrano now

[brettgilbert77]

Probably a scam. He can request the logbook with the counterpart if it got lost in post or whatever.

Your a private seller? it's sold as seen. he was happy with it when he handed over the money. End of! It's a £550 motor, what did he expect a mint condition vehicle!?

Ignore it

But if you are worried go and have a chat with the place that MOT'ed it and see what they say. It's not your problem they may have missed a few things on the MOT.

Yeah, I'm a private seller, but if Mark's mate will take it for £500 I'll tell this chap I'll give him £500 back as I don't really need to take it.
Just concerned if he does kick up a stink then the MoT tester might get in trouble, or at least not think the best of me. If I don't lose out then it's not really a problem. Not worried about him threatening to 'come round my house' as I've moved house since then anyway.

 

[macabethiel]

Sold as seen buyer beware

I think you are on safe ground if you start offering a refund then it leads you open to cost incurred by him such as insurance cover / cancellation / collection costs etc.

The Mot advises are fine you will not get anyone in trouble in my opinion.

 

[AlexD333]

I think you are on safe ground if you start offering a refund then it leads you open to cost incurred by him such as insurance cover / cancellation / collection costs etc.

The Mot advises are fine you will not get anyone in trouble in my opinion.

A'men to that, I think youd be best keeping quiet and letting it all blow over. Start off polite but firm, once you start admitting this and returning that it will get very messy very quickly and the guy might start trying it on big time.

 

[brettgilbert77]

Managed to get the advert I posted on Autotrader:

It's a 1998 S reg SWB Nissan Terrano Salomon model, Manual box. This comes with the 2.7TDi engine. It's taxed until September 2014 (Tax rate is £126.50 6 months or £230.00 for 12 months). The MoT expires June 2015, so almost a years motoring to be had. Comes with a tow bar and dual electrics (not tested) It starts, drives and stops, It also runs happily on straight vegetable oil if you so desire. You can buy that new at a wholesalers for 75ppl, so can be quite economical to run. It's not a new vehicle, perfect for someone who needs a towing car or rugged off roader. there were a few advisories on the MoT, but nothing too bad and easy for a home diyer to sort out. The nearside wing looks to have been badly repaired/sprayed, and the rear bumper had been repaired and looks scruffy. The rest of the panels are in good condition for the age of the car, well, they're pretty straight anyway. Some are held on with cable ties in places though and could do with being tidied up. The Front tyres are almost new BF Goodrich all terrains, the rear two are a mud terrain on one side and road on the other as is the spare which has a puncture. I guess the mud terrain used to be the spare. Probably will need replacement rear tyres, which you could get part-worn for £30 each on eBay. Seems a shame to break a vehicle which someone could use though. It is an old 4x4 though, mechanically sound, but a little scruffy. Don't expect a new car., No service history, Next MOT due on 08/06/2015, Tax expires by 31/08/2014, Electric windows, Air conditioning, MP3 player, CD player, Leather trim, Folding rear seats, 15" Alloy Wheels, Spare wheel (Full), Power steering, Central locking, Alarm, Immobiliser, Driver's airbags, Passenger airbags

I've spoken to trading standards and they're saying that as I state it has an MoT then I'm not responsible for anything they didn't find during that inspection, nor anything that has happened since.

I still have the V5 though and DVLA are happy for me to just cross off this guys details and sell it to Mark's friend provided he's happy with it.

In a quandary now, email this chap back and tell him to stick it, or get it back for £50 less (provided it's not been damaged) and sell it to Mark's friend. Wouldn't be out of pocket, and wouldn't have this idiot contacting me about it.

 

[Fez_uk]

Tell him to stick it, You have no idea what condition this thing is in now.

The add and price clearly portrays a picture of the motor being scruffy, in need of attention. but someone with the right DIY knowledge could get a nice motor in the end with a few hours work.

 

[bry]

No warranty given or implied,by the looks of that advert.Keep a copy of the advert.If the guy gets back in touch explain the fact that you have spoken to trading standards about this issue.Also the fact you are not a qualified mechanic,therefore you listed any faults as you knew to be.And the truck was bought "as seen"

Also explain the fact he implied a threat"Coming to see you if need be etc"So the police may have to be involved.

 

[brettgilbert77]

Well,
Ed's happy to take it as a project vehicle for £500.

I've told the buyer that I will come and see it. If he's not wrecked it in the past 2 weeks and it still looks fine and drives like it did when I sold it I'll give him £500 of the £550 he paid.

I have the V5 and DVLA are happy for me to change the details to those of Ed.

If the buyer messes about, has damaged the car or is threatening then he'll be keeping it and Trading standards won't be interested in his case. I'd also call the police if he continues to threaten me in any way.

This way everyone's happy, I keep £550, the buyer gets most of his money back and Ed gets the Terrano as a project. Provided I don't smack the chap in the mouth when I see him noone goes to court :sly

I could indeed tell him to 'suck it up buttercup', but then Ed wouldn't get his project and I'd be getting snotty emails from this guy. So it's a Karma thing, :splif:

 

[AlexD333]

I think you are being risky by thinking about taking it back, whos to say he hasnt butchered something you wont know about. And apart from that, if this guy bails out on rebuying it your then stuck with your truck again that you didnt want.

I would just say to the guy "i sold it in good faith, im not a mechanic I just made some obvious observations about the condition, and it was fairly listed on the net. He was obviously happy with it or he wouldnt have taken it either, so if he trys the "im not a mechanic line" you can do the same :thumb2

Still think you are making hard work for yourself though :thumb2

 

[AlexD333]

Id give him like £350/£400

 

[jims-terrano]

Personally I would simply explain that you have been in touch with Trading Standards and taken advice. Be polite but firm say that you have no responsibility and you have no obligation to give a refund in part or full and such will not be doing so. Refer him back to the original advert but do not give him a copy. Do not say "sorry" or give any kind of refund as this maybe looked upon as admitting liability. A straight no is the way to go.

 

[AlexD333]

Personally I would simply explain that you have been in touch with Trading Standards and taken advice. Be polite but firm say that you have no responsibility and you have no obligation to give a refund in part or full and such will not be doing so. Refer him back to the original advert but do not give him a copy. Do not say "sorry" or give any kind of refund as this maybe looked upon as admitting liability. A straight no is the way to go.

Awesome, I like

 

[clivvy]

well, I agree with others, tell him to stick it. Cheeky arsehole, who does he think he is? his MOT mate has told him a ton of crap just because he doesn't want he car any more. Personally I'd tell him you'll buy it back off him for £400 since he has had two weeks to mess about with it.

Totally unreasonable, and he is acting like you are a trader, which you are not. If it were me, I'd accept it and move on. Its his OWN fault, not yours, this is just an example of the blame culture in this country, and he is simply trying it on, and how dare he use his wife as an excuse? He is in fantasy land also, so his mind has run away with him.

Tell him to get stuffed. Your MOT'r will be fine - this guy has no cause to contact Trading Standards about it, only you.

the idiot

 

[AlexD333]

well, I agree with others, tell him to stick it. Cheeky arsehole, who does he think he is? his MOT mate has told him a ton of crap just because he doesn't want he car any more. Personally I'd tell him you'll buy it back off him for £400 since he has had two weeks to mess about with it.

Totally unreasonable, and he is acting like you are a trader, which you are not. If it were me, I'd accept it and move on. Its his OWN fault, not yours, this is just an example of the blame culture in this country, and he is simply trying it on, and how dare he use his wife as an excuse? He is in fantasy land also, so his mind has run away with him.

Tell him to get stuffed. Your MOT'r will be fine - this guy has no cause to contact Trading Standards about it, only you.

the idiot

I like this even more! And if this doesent work out ive got one more idea :sly

 

[solarman216]

He is totally out of order, and to my mind a scammer, let him go to trading standards you are a private individual not a trader, you sold it in good faith the fact the engine management light has come up is of no consequence, a component related to this can fail at any time, not your problem, as for the MOT it is only a guide to the vehicles road worthiness on the day, and from what I can see you informed him of all issues known to you, now he is complaining, but not from his own knowledge, but that of a garage that clearly does not know what it is talking about, tell him to go away happy, if you get my meaning, Rick

 

[brettgilbert77]

Well, I've done it now.

Got the car back from him and can't get above 30 mph without a downhill stretch and a long straight run. Engine management light is on.

The chap who wanted to give me £500 won't answer the phone, email or texts so pretty certain he's decided not to bother. A tad rude not to at least say he's changed his mind, but there you go.

Actually agreed to use it in PX with cash on a new car for the missus, a Panda 4x4, but she didn't like the test drive.

Drove away and the offside wiper stopped working. Have had to park up and leave it where it is until the rain stops.

Think I might keep it now as a project, get these few issues resolved and have it as a toy.

Need to replace rear propshaft UJ, windscreen wiper motor and MAF asap, anyone local got a MAF going cheap or that I can use to test it?

 

[bry]

Must be someone close by,that will help..

 

[supergnome]

Must be someone close by,that will help..

LOOK in the mirror. You've had good advice and failed to take it. Sell it for scrap.
Sorry to be so brutal but you need a quick solution for your peace of mind. David.

 

[Sweety]

I would read the fault codes before fitting a new MAF as that might not be the problem:augie the MAF on my last T2 was totally dead but it never brought up the MIL light

 

[dave123]

Well, I've done it now.

Got the car back from him and can't get above 30 mph without a downhill stretch and a long straight run. Engine management light is on.

The chap who wanted to give me £500 won't answer the phone, email or texts so pretty certain he's decided not to bother. A tad rude not to at least say he's changed his mind, but there you go.

Actually agreed to use it in PX with cash on a new car for the missus, a Panda 4x4, but she didn't like the test drive.

Drove away and the offside wiper stopped working. Have had to park up and leave it where it is until the rain stops.

Think I might keep it now as a project, get these few issues resolved and have it as a toy.

Need to replace rear propshaft UJ, windscreen wiper motor and MAF asap, anyone local got a MAF going cheap or that I can use to test it?

how do you know it wasn't a con to change parts from yours to another one . all the parts are easy to change over and then complain saying you sold a dud and wants his money back. saves him buying new parts ?

 

[jims-terrano]

So who was it that was lined up to buy it? Is it possible that was part of a scam?

Whats happened has happened and theres no point dwelling on the rights and wrongs. You need to move forward. Certainly the easiest way is to flog it for scrap and then there is no come back at all. You wont sell for a good price now what ever happens.

Read the fault codes and see what they say?

Did both wipers stop working or just the os? If so forget about the motor it'll probably be a linkage that has dropped off for some reason. Are you sure that a rear propshaft uj has gone? Cheap enough to buy new uj from Milners.

Good luck