My big fat gypsy caravan

[Deleted account DD]

would it be a idea to fit a extra battery , so that when not in use the alt is charging the battery up , then if extra capacity is required , you have the option :nenau

Shouldnt be any need to at all on this project and it can affect your insurance as a mod. (found that out when i investigated twin batteries) Tow bar electrics and flasher relay changes dont seem to bother them but as soon as another batteries fitted the balloon goes up.

 

[Deleted account DD]

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the trolls wiring/fuse is heavier than the t2, perhaps to go with 3500kg limit?

Almost definitely :thumb2

Its noticeable that when I am drawing a hefty current the jeep doesnt flicker where as the TII sometimes did.

 

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

mind when i 'm hooking up and testing lights, putting hazards on does
induce some noise from the altenator, essentially revs up/drain.

the abbey sepctrum does have side indicators though.

so how much would a second battery on car cost then, tbh didnt even
think of insurance though would for other mods...

in that case thinking best bet is to just charge on in boot in an adhoc
fashion like charging one of these battery booster things from the
rear power outlet?

 

[Deleted account DD]

I dont know about cost for 2nd battery, didnt get a figure. It came to light when I was shopping around for quotes with the psi & k&ns fitted. Insurers generally werent bothered about the k&n. All without exception wanted to know about the psi although the difference in premiums ranged from not worth worrying about to f me how much !!

The bit about the battery came about in conversation with two brokers when i was asked what electrical mods i had carried out and i moentioned considering twin batteries, their concerns were later confirmed directly with a couple of the companies.

Theres no real black and white other than if they refuse to pay out if you havent declared! but effectively its all risk based. If youre putting extra batteries in youre up to something non standard if you like. Tow bar electrics for example I wouldn't have thought wouldnt be a problem for anyone because it doesn't effectively do anything outside of the normal standard spec, reverse sensors they seemed to like!

However once a second battery goes in your up to something so its what and why. winches are another thing they got twitchy about, again risk based. I stress i was looking at on road policies not all encompassing off road or the so called agricultural business use.

Unanimously they all said they wouldn't even quote for a second battery hard-wired system unless i or whoever did it could produce proof of professional competence and or the system was "inspected" a pro. No idea what the criteria for that was, didnt ask. Started thinking about changing the car instead

We could argue all day and be thoroughly offended by these peoples attitudes but at the end of the day if you dont declare it and they find it youre stuffed big time insurance wise.

I have my private thoughts on the subject and cant see how they could regulate the loose in the boot battery which must be worsebut unfortunately thats the way it is

 

[Deleted account DD]

Ps in private conversation one place even told me after market tinted windows could declarable. The logic is they could conceivably interfere with your all round vision irrespective of whether they meet legal standards, theyre a modification which has a risk implication.

I tend to think theyd have to have a real downer on you to bring that one into play but again its very real and if they decide not to pay out!!!!!


Anyhow sorry Plank.................bought those leds yet or are the spade connectors, 10m rolls of wire and a couple of old relays coming out of the junk box

 

[briggie]

just been talking to my neighbour carl .... he has a pajero 2.5 td auto , and he says its fitted with 2 batteries as standard..... he reckons its for all the " toys " like air con , heated seats etc

 

[Deleted account DD]

just been talking to my neighbour carl .... he has a pajero 2.5 td auto , and he says its fitted with 2 batteries as standard..... he reckons its for all the " toys " like air con , heated seats etc

And if thats standard unmodified spec thats the way it is and ins co will have that data :nenau not sure of the point youre making ?

 

[briggie]

And if thats standard unmodified spec thats the way it is and ins co will have that data :nenau not sure of the point youre making ?

just wondered why some have 2 and some have one

 

[dinky]

Dont some mistrals come with 2 battries,Plank makes my elan 14 look very small.

 

[briggie]

Dont some mistrals come with 2 battries,Plank makes my elan 14 look very small.

mine has the space for 2 batteries , but only has one fitted

 

[Deleted account DD]

just wondered why some have 2 and some have one

I guess some are prepared in advance for beefing up and the wiring looms and fuses will reflect that.

I only have one battery (albeit the size of an hgv one ) with electric everything, heated seats, climate etc etc and (touch wood) no problems.

Your neighbours theory may correct about the toys but more likely a design error once the toys were loaded on and the battery kept conking out unless it came from the factory with battery and loom ready for hard graft, similar to how mod defenders used to.

 

[Deleted account DD]

Dont some mistrals come with 2 battries,Plank makes my elan 14 look very small.

My TII had space for another battery tray but as far as I could find the wiring loom was a one battery system.

Anyway wasn't planks problem excess current through an existing circuit as opposed to not enough current available ?

 

[briggie]

My TII had space for another battery tray but as far as I could find the wiring loom was a one battery system.

Anyway wasn't planks problem excess current through an existing circuit as opposed to not enough current available ?

do you still have those strips of leds daved ? ..... might be a idea for plank :nenau

 

[Deleted account DD]

do you still have those strips of leds daved ? ..... might be a idea for plank :nenau

I think youre getting me mixed up with someone else!!!

 

[briggie]

I think youre getting me mixed up with someone else!!!

oops was darwin ..... im getting ( am ) old :lol

 

[(RIP) PLANK]

well i think i've found a quick fix to the problem of excess current on the indicator circuit!

I took all the light lenses off today, the previous owner as part of a half finished restoration nad rewired and renewed all the bulbs. Good job except one thing.

21 watt bulbs in all the indicators front and back

so by putting 15 watts in the reas indicators and 5 watts in the front where they wont realy be seen i can cut current draw by 66% that hould solve the issue. All the other bulbs seem fine.

 

[Smegg]

its a beaut and i was thinking i had done well on my old fleetwood.

 

[(RIP) PLANK]

mine has the space for 2 batteries , but only has one fitted

I usualy fit a second battry on a transit, on the old Di engines you could get the battery tray fomr a petrol and fit it on the oposite side then charge it using a smart com relay, the sort used for spilt charging in a caravan. new transits make it harder to position the second battery. But it is ideal for roof beacons radio etc so you dont flatten the starting battery.

 

[(RIP) PLANK]

I got the first part of my new leather upholstery back and fitted it today I am very pleased with it

The rest is being deilvered as it is finished over the next few days so I can fit it all bit by bit to save having a cluttered space to work in. It should be all done for the weekend and i will post a few pics.

 

[Deleted account DD]

well i think i've found a quick fix to the problem of excess current on the indicator circuit!

I took all the light lenses off today, the previous owner as part of a half finished restoration nad rewired and renewed all the bulbs. Good job except one thing.

21 watt bulbs in all the indicators front and back

so by putting 15 watts in the reas indicators and 5 watts in the front where they wont realy be seen i can cut current draw by 66% that hould solve the issue. All the other bulbs seem fine.

lmao

Just goes to prove, trust no one and nowt