Looks like we are being stiched up....

[(RIP) PLANK]

current MOT test is not testing for the same emissions, it will be for co2 volume like that staed on log books of newer vehicles, just out of interest SVO test slightly higher on this than diesel, oddly so does bio diesel!

so no savings there!

 

[zhorian]

we breathe out CO2 ... will we be taxed on that ? anyroadup this government is in a slight state of panic after the local elections so I'll be interested to see exactly what they do ... apart from which is it likely that pre 2001 'gas guzzlers' will see a temporary rise in market value due to lower road tax .... I'm vaguely convinced that there are less of the older 4x4's on the s/h market ....

 

[(RIP) PLANK]

older cars will get whacked on tax next and probably much harder, as the new systems are being put in place and it is a 'green priority' (however misguided to drive older vehicels of the road, the present tax changes have precisely the opposit effect, and have no incentinve to keep the car well maintained or serviced which is the biggest factor in reducing emission, the new system for older cars will encompass all these things.

 

[Boggert]

we know is we will be taxed for burping.....

 

[elty001]

stitched up

don't see how any of these emission based tax rules can be fair,i do about 4000-5000 miles a year as i work locally,but my motor is only kicking out emissions when its running,but i still get taxed the same as someone who is doing double,treble the mileage as i do,also same with insurance,as i spend less time on the road why do i still pay the same premiums as someone who is on the road every day doing hundreds of miles a week.i think insurance and road tax should be on fuel then you only pay for it when you need it(not that fuel isn't expensive enough anyway)but do you get my idea :?:

 

[robobone]

Re: stitched up

don't see how any of these emission based tax rules can be fair,i do about 4000-5000 miles a year as i work locally,but my motor is only kicking out emissions when its running,but i still get taxed the same as someone who is doing double,treble the mileage as i do,also same with insurance,as i spend less time on the road why do i still pay the same premiums as someone who is on the road every day doing hundreds of miles a week.i think insurance and road tax should be on fuel then you only pay for it when you need it(not that fuel isn't expensive enough anyway)but do you get my idea :?:

i agree tax on the pump not on the window could work but insurance wouldnt to many companies to monitor it but they do risk assesments for the amount of miles and what its used for to make it a "bit" fairer

 

[(RIP) PLANK]

i think most insurance companies now have a low mileage option to cut the rates

funny but in some European countries where the road tax is all on the fuel, the fuel is still cheaper than here!

rip off Britain :lol:

 

[elty001]

stitched up

might get a tank in the back yard and start importing my own fuel if only it was that easy :?

 

[(RIP) PLANK]

well we have land that is a little patch surrounded by hundreds (seems like thousands) of acres of rape all about 5 feet high and bright yellow, any ideas how i get the oil out of the seeds? will a garlic press do it? :lol: :lol:

it is a free for all on oil for fuel, with no fuel tax and the price about the same per litre there are big profits to be made, and theoreticaly a well that will never run dry!

or i migt get a rig and start drilling test holes :wink:

 

[elty001]

stitched up

have read that most of the rape seed produced in this country is sent to europe to produce bio deisel 8O .the deeper you dig the angrier you get :evil: ,if this is true we dont have a chance.this time last year deisel was on average 87p per litre,road tax was £150 per year just dont know what else to say :?:

 

[(RIP) PLANK]

what concerns me most is that the price of fuel will be reflected in the price of everyhting, it is the first step in the run away inflation that mars the end on the 'boom' in Britains famous boom and bust economy, we only now have the bust to look forward too

remember:
The 70's fuel rarioning, strikes and trouble!
The 80's they called it Thatchers Britain, millions of unemplyed etc.
Then the 90's house price exploding then the big crash?


well we are about to get it all at the same time so get ready :wink: :evil:

 

[elty001]

stitched up

i know what your saying,my mrs has had to take another job just so we can carry on living normal,without having to worry about where the money is going to come from for next months bills :| the thing that gets me is iv'e just had my anual pay rise to be worse off :? whats going on :?:

 

[supertaff]

I do love a bit of "Doom and Gloom" !! . A few weeks ago I mentioned "People power" ... you know, the guys & gals that put the little x's on ballot papers, and lo and behold, our Gordon had the worst local election results in about 40 years !!
I think a message has been sent to number 10 , but whether the powers that be translate that message correctly and realise that Gordon is not Prince John, and the buffoon living in number 11 is not the Sherriff of Nottingham, and we are pretty peed-off with paying their incredible taxes
is something that we will have to wait and see.
At the end of the day, they are only there due to the electorate, and when you do the dirty on them, you become surplus to requirement, and get voted out. Whichever "Muppets" win the next general election in about 2 years time, they must get the message that enough is enough !!

Matt.

 

[elty001]

stitched up

animal for priminister any day :lol: :lol: but what did we get.......fozzy,already had miss piggy followed on by kermit so whos next perhaps that mad chef :? boordy boordy boord :!:

 

[(RIP) PLANK]

If you go to the doctors you expecgt DOCOTR a proper qualified one!

to the dentist a DENTIST a proper qualified one

a vet for your dog? has to be qualified etc etc etc

running the country, social scientists? NO, Economists? NO

just a bunch of muppets that have won the popularity contest that is western democracy, no experience or qualifications required!

and that is the basic problem, they all share a simmilar money grabing greedy vision of the future, with everyone and every contry in direct competition with everyone else.