live axle chat again...

[makeitfit]

See I'd love it, if I could just drop the terrano off with someone, after acquiring the "shopping list" of necessary parts needed and leave it with them for a set period of time.

All I worry about is leaving it with someone and they keep requiring more and more parts as would have to wait again for future payday.

The shopping list is small, the fabrication is the work mate. It's not a kit you can order and bolt on . So the job has to be done by an experienced fabricator. Then it's make it as you go. You've read already the work involved in just modding a hilux axle ! That's why I suggest you go patrol axle.
There's a very good thread on another forum I've saved somewhere. That "might" give you an idea.

 

[makeitfit]

Oh wash my mouth out, I've found a kit
Sit yourself down before you open this link Alex :lol
https://ruggedrocksoffroad.com/niss...it-sas-by-rugged-rocks-1988-1995-p-57971.html

 

[makeitfit]

Here's right up on a pro job. I know it's over the top for what you're after but the principle of the job is the same.
http://forum.ruggedrocksoffroad.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=a86cp1jpg1pcukaapppc6r0b74&topic=2362.0

 

[Barrbeast]

Oh and on that note, as I will require new suspension front and rear I may just get hold of a temp second hand kit as a "stepping stone" a size that the standard steering column and brake hoses can deal with. I guess a +2/3" kit off something with live axles :thumb2

You'll need to know the type of shock mounts and spring mounts etc before you can get a hold of any suspension kits as the set ups aren't identical...

Also, max lift with standard brake pipes etc depends on the vehicle.

There's gonna be a lot of unknowns until it's done and even then I doubt you're gonna just be able to buy a suspension kit straight off another vehicle :nenau

 

[bry]

Methinks i would buy a Trol.?
And then do Mods...

 

[AlexD333]

Methinks i would buy a Trol.?
And then do Mods...

Nope, a trol is out of the question for atleast another 2/3 years, really, it is

I will have a read of the build above, 9,000 dollars is far far more than I want to pay but I will read for principles sake :thumb2

Thanks for having a dig about.

Chatting with bud he seems to steer towards the hilux ln106 as certain parts will need very little alteration, I e, the shafts.

On the other hand people mention patrol, but seems to steer towards new transfer or gearbox

 

[bud]

for every ones benefit,
If you are considering doing a SAS on a medium sized vehicle such as the Mistral/T2, the hilux axles have a similar track to the t2, where as the patrols is a good 6-8 inches wider, no amount of offset is going to get the wheels in under the arches, and the pivot angle on the hubs mean you will be hitting the front edge of your doors on less then full lock.
this would mean having to push the front axle forward away from the desired axix to have the axle mounted.

Also the patrol's gearbox is longer meaning the front shaft would have to be cut and shortened, where as the hilux's cardon shaft can simply have the flange at the transfer end changed to match the T2's transfer case.

At one point i seriously considered just buying a old farm hack hilux and sticking the mistral's body onto the hilux chassi and implanting the nissan's engine and box as apposed to stripping the hilux's axles and altering them to fit the mistral. :hide:

 

[AlexD333]

for every ones benefit,
If you are considering doing a SAS on a medium sized vehicle such as the Mistral/T2, the hilux axles have a similar track to the t2, where as the patrols is a good 6-8 inches wider, no amount of offset is going to get the wheels in under the arches, and the pivot angle on the hubs mean you will be hitting the front edge of your doors on less then full lock.
this would mean having to push the front axle forward away from the desired axix to have the axle mounted.

Also the patrol's gearbox is longer meaning the front shaft would have to be cut and shortened, where as the hilux's cardon shaft can simply have the flange at the transfer end changed to match the T2's transfer case.

At one point i seriously considered just buying a old farm hack hilux and sticking the mistral's body onto the hilux chassi and implanting the nissan's engine and box as apposed to stripping the hilux's axles and altering them to fit the mistral. :hide:

Very clever dude :clap

I will keep my eyes peeled for chassis and axles of a hilux ln106 then.

Problem here in the uk is that they get exportd for silly money to Africa and the likes. But theoretically it doesent matter if the thing is burnt out, all I need are the axles and certain chassis points :thumb2

 

[AlexD333]

If I could steal something like this (the white one) :nenau

 

[Barrbeast]

Nope, a trol is out of the question for atleast another 2/3 years, really, it is

Mate, if you've decided you're going to get a Trol in 2-3 years time anyway why are you looking to spend all this time and money on modding the Terrano:nenau

Doesn't make sense to me if you're not planning to keep the Terrano especially as the SAS mod will more than likely bring it down in value. Just sell the Terrano now and use the money you get plus the cash you'd spend on the SAS conversion to buy yourself a Trol :nenau

 

[makeitfit]

Dare I ask Alex, have you actually worked out what your end use will be for the SAS terrano ?
As I still think you're about to open up a a very big can of worms. Mainly because you don't really have a first hand idea/understanding of the job in hand. ( no disrespect) Consequently you'll be in the hands of others. Now if you're lucky and get a good experienced kinda guy then fingers crossed you'll get away lightly at around £2000. Now that's being conservative i think. 4 x 35" tyres will set you back 700/800 quid on top.
If you just want your T2 to look manly and be pretty much reliable without power mods but still work bloody well offroad . Then why not just buy a LOKKA and run some decent 33s
You'll actually have more clearance at the front than a live axle and the same at the back . Lack of flex doesn't matter so much then and you'll just need to spend on the Lokka and a bit of Ricks time.
OR just buy a bloody Trol :lol
For example http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-MANU...0455300?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3a9f48db84
Just think it through eh

 

[AlexD333]

Mate, if you've decided you're going to get a Trol in 2-3 years time anyway why are you looking to spend all this time and money on modding the Terrano:nenau

Doesn't make sense to me if you're not planning to keep the Terrano especially as the SAS mod will more than likely bring it down in value. Just sell the Terrano now and use the money you get plus the cash you'd spend on the SAS conversion to buy yourself a Trol :nenau

:doh

 

[AlexD333]

I just want the terrano bigger is all :thumb2

 

[ginge007]

Got to agree with pete how and where would u use an sas terrano if money was no object and its just a toy then go for it otherwise its just not worth the cost :nenau

 

[makeitfit]

I just want the terrano bigger is all :thumb2

Ah well just tweak yours to go 35s then
I did mine :naughty

 

[Barrbeast]

I just want the terrano bigger is all :thumb2

Well a SAS isn't the answer bud...

Look at that list of mods that Arctic Trucks do they only do a 40mm suspension lift (that's not even 2") and the rest is all body lift and arches.

 

[AlexD333]

But body doesent lift off the ground anymore? :nenau

So if I were to get 35" tyres with come cutting, perhaps I could just look into re gearing the diffs?

If I go down this route instead does anyone have an idea of how much work re gearing the diffs would be? :nenau

 

[elty001]

Just do as Pete has done, power chip and lpg conversion to up the power.
Also there is the mechanical pump conversion to give it a bit more power.

 

[AlexD333]

Just do as Pete has done, power chip and lpg conversion to up the power.
Also there is the mechanical pump conversion to give it a bit more power.

Well, mechanical pump perhaps, a remap for sure :sly

I suppose the proof is in the pudding, gearing has to be a good way to go, atleast to keep the truck happy and less stressful on the engine.

So I think combine gearing with a remap and the results would be great.

I must admit also I don't really understand this LPG conversion? Thought that was just a gas for cheap petrol motors? :nenau

 

[bud]

Well, mechanical pump perhaps, a remap for sure :sly

I suppose the proof is in the pudding, gearing has to be a good way to go, atleast to keep the truck happy and less stressful on the engine.

So I think combine gearing with a remap and the results would be great.

I must admit also I don't really understand this LPG conversion? Thought that was just a gas for cheap petrol motors? :nenau

be more worried about your wheel bearings, axles and tie rods. quite easy to snap crackle n pop. with 4.8/5.1's

and dont worry about LPG, Jet A/ high grade kerosene is what ya want..also has a anti freezing agent in it for flying at high altitude....good for winter. and since its for planes it aint taxed like diesel/ petrol.