Lifting the suspension

[The Patrolman]

Tyres are King:thumb2 but you wouldn't want to churn the field up too much.

I would have disconnected the trailer and recovered that with the winch form firmer ground.

If you're doing this sort of thing day in day out it may be worth fabricating a dolly for the trailer hitch so that you can drag it out of tight spot without the jockey wheel digging in. My mate made one for his boat trailer for the same purpose but on sand:thumb2

 

[Barrbeast]

Tbh bud I think you were asking a lot to be pulling a loaded tri-axle through that sort of mud without issues.

I'm with Patrolman, I would have disconnected the trailer and winched it in from solid ground. Bet the Trol would have had no problem getting out on it's own although muds may have helped.

Loving the axle shots by the way :thumbs

 

[makeitfit]

As above defo bin the trailer and recover yourself. THEN get the trailer on a strop for example. I've modded my boat trailers to twin big pneumatic tyres so they don't dig into the sand. Same sort of thing .
Tyre pressure make a massive difference. You could easily drop them to 15psi and get yourself free.
Buy a good tyree pump that goes on your battery. I can pump up my 35s in minutes
Also consider some waffle boards, nice n cheap but very effective

 

[Ianinessex]

First thing I did when it all ground to a halt was to unhook the trailer. Unfortunately by then the 'troll had decided to stay put. I put some cloth (old towels) under the wheels and then tried to get some bits of the pallets under, but it did not help. I did not think of letting the tyres down - must remember that next time :doh
When I did eventually get the car out and on solid ground, I pulled the trailer out with the winch. That was the easy bit

 

[makeitfit]

Tyres, pressure and mats. That's what we learned today

 

[bud]

In the mud

that's not stuck...

 

[Ianinessex]

that's not stuck...

Please define "stuck" then. :nenau To me stuck is it wont go forwards or backwards under it's own power, and it definitely wouldn't. It took far too long to get out. The picture shows it just when it happened. 2 hours later when I got free, I was not in the mood to take another picture showing how much further it had sunk. :augie

Still, lesson learnt, and it could have been much worse, no rain or snow.

Following all the comments, a long list of parts have been ordered, land anchor, stronger ropes, waffle boards and a tyre pump. I go on this type of soft ground regularly and don't want this happening again :thumbs

Now need to sort out better tyres, but I need some suggestions on tyre size and make. The BFG M/T which would have been my first choice, only go up to 305/70/16 which are the same diameter as the A/T 285/75/16's I have now. If I am going to go up in diameter I am going to have to find another make. Anyone got any suggestions?
Ian

 

[The Patrolman]

I would recommend 35 x12.50 x 16's they will give you a further 1.5" of axle clearance and are the equivalent of a 315 wide Tyre.

Any taller than that and your gearing for towing will be all to pot.

I'm sure if you look around you will find BFG mudS in that size, once you pass the 315/70/16 size the dimensions move to inches. 32, 33, 35 and 37 being the overall diameter/ height in inches and 10.5, 12.5, 15 being the width in inches.

There are several worthy makes;
Hankook Dynapro MT's
Cooper Discoverer STT's
BFG Mud 's

I would avoid the Maxis creepy crawlers as the road noise is ridiculous.:thumb2

 

[Ianinessex]

I would recommend 35 x12.50 x 16's they will give you a further 1.5" of axle clearance and are the equivalent of a 315 wide Tyre.

Any taller than that and your gearing for towing will be all to pot.

I'm sure if you look around you will find BFG mudS in that size, once you pass the 315/70/16 size the dimensions move to inches. 32, 33, 35 and 37 being the overall diameter/ height in inches and 10.5, 12.5, 15 being the width in inches.

There are several worthy makes;
Hankook Dynapro MT's
Cooper Discoverer STT's
BFG Mud 's

I would avoid the Maxis creepy crawlers as the road noise is ridiculous.:thumb2

Thanks for the information. I have started another thread specifically on this issue. The BFG's in the bigger sizes only seem to be available in the US, and they are silly money. $400+ per tyre
I will look at some of the others you have listed
Thanks
Ian

 

[Ianinessex]

I had the lift and other work done by Devon 4x4. Having just looked on their web site again, the car now has it's own storyboard. :thumb2

Story and pictures are on
http://www.devon4x4.com/index.php?o...74:nissan-patrol-y61-monster-truck&Itemid=138

 

[daniel2609]

I had the lift and other work done by Devon 4x4. Having just looked on their web site again, the car now has it's own storyboard. :thumb2

Story and pictures are on
http://www.devon4x4.com/index.php?o...74:nissan-patrol-y61-monster-truck&Itemid=138

thats a good write up they have done! :clap :thumb2

 

[AlexD333]

thats a good write up they have done! :clap :thumb2

Just read whole article and pics. What a great job! Pics complement the truck too!

 

[rustic]

Just read whole article and pics. What a great job! Pics complement the truck too!

I read it all too...
I like the front bumper.:thumb2
:augie

I must admit, I'd have been there getting in the way, waxoyling everything I could get to...
What an opportunity.

 

[Jay666d]

Do you need to extend anything when doing a 2" lift, or just when you go beyond that?

 

[Jay666d]

Just read the Devon site too... Awesome build! :thumb2

 

[Lazy-Ferret]

Opps, Sorry, Scratch this.. I thought you were asking about a Terrano...


Do you mean Suspension, or Body Lift?

For a body Lift, No, all the pipes etc will reach, the only bits you need to do are modify the bumpers to get them to re-align with the body, and personally, I also extended the 2 gear levers 2", and lifted the intercooler up so it was still tight under the air scoop as well.

For suspension lift, again, no, other than you may need to extend the breather pipe to the rear diff, as that can be cut a bit on the tight side, and re-route the flexible hand brake cables where they are attached to the body under the rear seats. I made up some brackets that bolted to the orriganal mounts dropping the cables 3" on a 2" lift... seemed to give a better, smother angle than just doing 2 inches.

 

[Blocky10]

Opps, Sorry, Scratch this.. I thought you were asking about a Terrano...


Do you mean Suspension, or Body Lift?

For a body Lift, No, all the pipes etc will reach, the only bits you need to do are modify the bumpers to get them to re-align with the body, and personally, I also extended the 2 gear levers 2", and lifted the intercooler up so it was still tight under the air scoop as well.

For suspension lift, again, no, other than you may need to extend the breather pipe to the rear diff, as that can be cut a bit on the tight side, and re-route the flexible hand brake cables where they are attached to the body under the rear seats. I made up some brackets that bolted to the orriganal mounts dropping the cables 3" on a 2" lift... seemed to give a better, smother angle than just doing 2 inches.

Don't forget the steering joint!

 

[terranosaurusdoug]

You and yer joints man

 

[Lazy-Ferret]

Don't forget the steering joint!

Good point, but that is in the instructions, you don't need to change anything for that... well I didn't... lol

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[Blocky10]

Good point, but that is in the instructions, you don't need to change anything for that... well I didn't... lol

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Do you not have to adjust the steering column when doing a body lift?