Lifting a R51 pathy

[762buzz]

I been searching around the net at the possability of lifting my 06 r51 pathfinder I have seen the kit on the link below and wondered what u all think as I don't have a idea where to start
http://www.upcountryautoproducts.co.uk/nissan/pathfinder-05-accessories-off-road-suspension-kit.asp
The body style is right for my pathy

 

[extreme-4x4]

a shade under 1.5 k for 40 mm
i bet you could get 40mm lift another way for few hundred quid

 

[jace]

pathfinder aint it a navra d40 in disguise? maybe pickup springs be heavier duty and give lift

 

[(RIP) PLANK]

pathfinder aint it a navra d40 in disguise? maybe pickup springs be heavier duty and give lift

a good place to start would be comparing the gross weight and unladen wight of the two vehicles and then comparing the springs.

 

[bailey]

the navara pick-up uses leaf springs on the rear and coils springs the pathfinder is fitted with coils alround

 

[(RIP) PLANK]

that's the end of that bright idea then :doh

any more suggestions anyone? :nenau

 

[makeitfit]

What about some plain old spring spacers while you research the situation properly:sly
Just found these for 500 squid
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&so...kNjpAg&usg=AFQjCNHMngupKSycLp3DeeeCUmt0-sJCDg

 

[jace]

they chasis built? if so why not lift body theres hundreds of ally lift blocks and bolts to suit on ebay maybe they could alter to suit a pathy.

 

[762buzz]

The cost of nearly 1400 is why i placed this tread, just wondered if i need to buy uprated shockers or springs or both
i can confirm they dont have leaf springs on
and on some internet searches some folks had queryed if it was possible just to put on body spaces
i just dont have a clue, i want to just gain the clearance to take it out without squeezing my arse cheaks together waiting for the bang underneath

 

[(RIP) PLANK]

I thnk the thing is that they are fairly new vehicles so no one wants to spend that kind of cash to start mods for off roading and get it all scratched dented and covered in mud!

When tey have been around a bit longer i'm sure all this will be easy. You are one of the first, a real pioneer!

And if things don't go quite to plan, you can allways get support and sympathy right here :thumb2

 

[762buzz]

is there a specialist garage around the east mids i could go and have a chat with?:nenau

 

[makeitfit]

erm, did you you check this lot out then?
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sou...eeeCUmt0-sJCDg
They have the hole package as above 500 quid ish

 

[lacroupade]

they chasis built? if so why not lift body theres hundreds of ally lift blocks and bolts to suit on ebay maybe they could alter to suit a pathy.

I assume 'body on frame' is auto-babble for seperate chassis....but a body lift doesn't achieve much as it leaves ground clearance exactly the same, its more of an aesthetic thing TBH.

 

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

I assume 'body on frame' is auto-babble for seperate chassis....but a body lift doesn't achieve much as it leaves ground clearance exactly the same, its more of an aesthetic thing TBH.

dont follwo that lac,

surely a body lift gets arches away from wheels so tyres can be bigger
and conviently leaves stock suspension for ride purposes.

suspension lift creates some space essentially by lowering axle points
but bigger tyres may well bounce up into said arches so may need up
ward movement limited.

why not stick with stock set up, save money, and go route of aggresive
tread, locking axles, and removing anything else that reduced approach
break over and departure angles.

 

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

recall in american truck mags, a body lift kit could be bought for say 70$
where as a suspension kit might be 300-3000$, struck me get to roughly
same place, but the suspension kit might be a days work, the body a lot
more as there would be the physical lifting issues and other fabrications
to resolve like bumper mounts, steering extension brake lines etc.

 

[lacroupade]

dont follwo that lac,

surely a body lift gets arches away from wheels so tyres can be bigger
and conviently leaves stock suspension for ride purposes.

suspension lift creates some space essentially by lowering axle points
but bigger tyres may well bounce up into said arches so may need up
ward movement limited.

why not stick with stock set up, save money, and go route of aggresive
tread, locking axles, and removing anything else that reduced approach
break over and departure angles.

No I did think of that as I went to press LOL :lol

And actually on the T2 anyway, its not the top of the arch thats the problem, unless you have disconnected your ARBs, its the front to back thing, like 31s catching on the seam. But then if you look at the pic of my truck below, fitted with 31" AT2s and the torsion bars cranked up so its level, a body lift might just be enough to clear the problem....??

But not sure what the starting point is with a Pathy.....essentially if the centre line of the wheel is higher than the front/rear of the wheel arch then a 40mm body lift won't achieve much in terms of letting bigger wheels clear the bodywork (assuming thats a problem), especially if you haven't got the torsion bar setup that allows you to crank the front up as well?

 

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

still suprised, not a lot of kt for modern pathy, sharing so much with the mav
ok excluding back end.

mind when look at current nav, could be mistaken for not being a 4x4, looks
lower and 2wd compared to say mitzi and toyota equivalents.

really thought when pathy replace t2, almost a world car, since on sale in
states parts and kits would start to flow.

take point about being relatively new still but some are heading for 5 years
old and the yank after marrket suppliers have resonded to others and home
grown metal a lot quicker than this, sometimes be for a model is fully
released

might be worth having a look at fourwheeler.com sure that had an editorial
pathy couple of years ago, as i read they reckoned the stock v6 4.0litre
could be replaced by a bigger nissan's v8!

 

[762buzz]

i know what u saying about not much kit about for the pathy, i ve spent hours searching the internet and mine coming up 5 yrs old this yr.

as for tyre size i am running 255/65 r17 not much chose about for rim size, have thought about dropping to 16 steel rims for off road/winter tyres but not sure what and where to get rims from and heard something about off set of rims dont know oat about that:nenau

 

[lacroupade]

i know what u saying about not much kit about for the pathy, i ve spent hours searching the internet and mine coming up 5 yrs old this yr.

as for tyre size i am running 255/65 r17 not much chose about for rim size, have thought about dropping to 16 steel rims for off road/winter tyres but not sure what and where to get rims from and heard something about off set of rims dont know oat about that:nenau

well first whats the stud pattern like? Generally speaking, most Japanese six-stud wheels should fit providing you can clarify the pitch of the stud pattern and the wheel offset.....the latter determines where the rim sits relative to things like the brake calipers and wheel arches so the wrong offset can cause fouling.

Theres a link somewhere if I can find it that gives you the offset/pitch for a range of vehicles, but not sure the Pathy is on it.....but the figures should be stamped in your wheels inside somewhere probably. Take some pics of whatever is there and we can advise. Then its just a case of either buying new rims to suit, or knowing what vehicle to look for s/h ones from by checking them on the link.

I'll go and have a look for it now....

 

[762buzz]

here is a side profile of my pathy see what u think and before u say it i know remove the side steps but i love the look:doh