It's Official -Wife hates her new Jeep Grand Cherokee.

[macabethiel]

Should have said Battleship Grey instead to match the vehicle !

:jesterbg ...... don't mention guns to her :augie:lol

Actually Battleship grey sounds worse than Gunmetal now I think about ! lol

I might have found a nice rural garage out at Horsley Woodhouse that can sort the handling / ride. The bloke there is an ex-Jeep mechanic - am taking a run over Tuesday afternnon for him to check it over.

 

[terrano bob]

As you know that was an option and in our price range but I prefer a cam chain to a belt.

shogun is cam chain :thumbs

 

[AlexD333]

Between the two I would choose belt over chain and follow the schedule religiously. A chain is a nightmare to get to, atleast a belt is reachable :thumb2

I'd choose gear drive over belt or chain all day long though :sly

 

[terrano bob]

Between the two I would choose belt over chain and follow the schedule religiously. A chain is a nightmare to get to, atleast a belt is reachable :thumb2

I'd choose gear drive over belt or chain all day long though :sly

I agree with you alex 100% gear drive every time but the shogun is chain drive

 

[AlexD333]

I agree with you alex 100% gear drive every time but the shogun is chain drive

Chain = pain
Belt = melt
Gear = beer

I'm no Shakespeare but..l :augie

 

[terrano bob]

Chain = pain
Belt = melt
Gear = beer

I'm no Shakespeare but..l :augie

we're going to have to stop agreeing alex people will start talking :augie :thumbs

 

[AlexD333]

we're going to have to stop agreeing alex people will start talking :augie :thumbs

Yeah.. Imagine if I had made your profile, and you are indeed me

 

[terrano bob]

Yeah.. Imagine if I had made your profile, and you are indeed me

:naughty :thumbs

 

[macabethiel]

So Shogun is a chain then !

shogun is cam chain :thumbs

Dunno why thought they were still a belt driven camshaft, academic now we have the Jeep.

In the seventies I worked at a Mitsubishi dealership they were imported under the brand Colt back then and the engines were chain driven cams with balancer shafts but changed over to belt drive due to chain noise issues. Not kept up to date! lol

Missus might be drawn to a Shogun if she does not settle with the Jeep. I am hoping she will get used to the Jeeps ride. Looks like there is a rear ARB upgrade that sorts them for use on tarmac.

 

[firebobby]

Make her catch the bus for a few days, just say the Jeep is off the road or something, I'm sure she will welcome it with open arms after roughing it on public transport or walking :augie

 

[terrano bob]

Make her catch the bus for a few days, just say the Jeep is off the road or something, I'm sure she will welcome it with open arms after roughing it on public transport or walking :augie

:jesterbg :thumbs

 

[macabethiel]

What is a bus Firebooby ?

Make her catch the bus for a few days, just say the Jeep is off the road or something, I'm sure she will welcome it with open arms after roughing it on public transport or walking :augie

I have not caught a Bus in the UK since I was 15 years of age. (Excluding drunken coach trips to breweries in the 70's)

The Missus has not caught a Bus in the UK since 1978.

She would just take my car or make me tax the SL for winter use !!

 

[macabethiel]

Rear ARB upgraded to sort out ride issues.

The wisdom on the Jeep website is new rear shocks, consider rear springs , check rear suspension arms etc for wear.
Replace the standard rear ARB with an ADDCO one from the US it sorts the rear suspension for Tarmac use allegedly!
The guy recomending the ADDCO rear ARB imports them so might be vested interest not truly independent advice.

 

[AlexD333]

The wisdom on the Jeep website is new rear shocks, consider rear springs , check rear suspension arms etc for wear.
Replace the standard rear ARB with an ADDCO one from the US it sorts the rear suspension for Tarmac use allegedly!
The guy recomending the ADDCO rear ARB imports them so might be vested interest not truly independent advice.

Gotta be worth a go, tell the missus there has been an emp disturbance in the area and all your vehicles aren't working :augie

Tv and kettle will have to be off too :lol

 

[macabethiel]

Rear ARB drop links and ARB clamp D bushes

I went to see the local Jeep man at Horsleylane Garage. He went out in the motor with me and then checked underneath the rear suspension.

He found one ARB link worn with a fair bit of play in it, otherside had some movement but not loads. Some movement in the clamp D bushes and a poor brake pipe - long one that runs length of most of the vehicle otherwise all sound.

Said changing the whole rear ARB was a waste of good money as the Jeep ones are OK. Awaiting his estimate but sounds promising that it will help steady the back end jitery ride.

 

[Terrano Steve]

:clap Sounds promising then.

 

[macabethiel]

Think I am going to nail it with the ADDCO rear ARB

:clap Sounds promising then.

Yep but have decided that an ADDCO ARB upgrade is the way to improve things trouble is they are on back order from the USA so its going to take a few weeks to get one. Found them on Amazon but postage and customs ramps the cost up. There is an importer in the UK so hope they can give me a realistic delivery date.

Might do the rubbers on the existing set up to tide me over ?

 

[Bigbunny2007]

Yep but have decided that an ADDCO ARB upgrade is the way to improve things trouble is they are on back order from the USA so its going to take a few weeks to get one. Found them on Amazon but postage and customs ramps the cost up. There is an importer in the UK so hope they can give me a realistic delivery date.

Might do the rubbers on the existing set up to tide me over ?

Did you fit the Addco rear arb?
I have a Grand Cherokee and it has a Skippy/swaying back end! Going to fit new rear trailing arms and was thinking about replacing the ARB drop links and D bushes.

 

[macabethiel]

ADCO rear ARB on WJ Grand Cherokee

Did you fit the Addco rear arb?
I have a Grand Cherokee and it has a Skippy/swaying back end! Going to fit new rear trailing arms and was thinking about replacing the ARB drop links and D bushes.

I replaced the rear ARB links first but found that the Jeep clamp bushes would not fit.

Measured the ARB and it turned out that the previous owner who had fitted the tow bar had also fitted a 1" ADCO rear ARB.

Managed to get a pair of clamps and bushes from the USA complete with grease nipples - cost around £30 with postage. First set only lasted 18 k miles as I did not grease them.

The 1" upgrade is great if you are towing or the vehicle is fully laden but it's too stiff in my opinion for everyday use.The ride at low speed on B roads is dreadful but it's okay if you drive over 30 mph but still bouncy firm. It's actually 700% stiffer.

If you Jeep has the 1/2" diameter standard ARB I would fit the 9/16" version for everyday use. The rear shock absorbers had also been upgraded as they are much fatter than standard ones. I would be minded to try high quality shock absorbers like Koni or Bilstein first. I am not sure but some later WJ's were fitted with a factory 5/8" rear ARB.

http://www.wjjeeps.com/swaybars.htm

The above link is very good.

 

[macabethiel]

Correction of ARB diameters.

The standard rear ARB is 7/8" diameter and the next upgraded is 9/16" that's some 382 % stiffer. This is the ADCO recommendation if you are upgrading the rear only. TBH I have not checked if I have an ADCO upgrade at he front.

I measured my existing bar diameter with a Caliper Tool I bought from Aldi a few years ago great little device that measures Metric or Imperial at touch of a button.