In England since 5th Oct we have to pay 5p per carrier bag

[johnb5177]

That's what we do.just re pack the trolley,wheel it out to car and load the boot.
Job done:thumb2

Always have bags in the cars, and do just this, do not buy the thin checkout bags.

I think I would like to see a very large, plainly written notice at the entrance and a slightly smaller one at the checkout of all stores charging for these bags, as to exactly what charities will directly benefit from this 5p charge. I don't think it's too much to ask. If they will not or cannot, then they should expect to be criticized and questioned heavily and publically.......:nenau

 

[rustic]

When Safeway ( now Morrisons) had the Green boxes, you bought say half a dozen green boxes, load then into a special trolley, take a bar code scanner, scan hopefully ALL the goods you put in the green boxes, and pay on the way out.
You put what you needed in each box, one for the freezer, one for the fridge, one for the bathroom, one for the tins cupboard, one for the wine cellar.
When you got home the right things in the right room, and you've only handled them once.
Brilliant..:thumb2

However... they soon stopped that as some high priced goods accidentally were placed into the trolley, by persons unknown, or the quantity was wrong, so they were relying on technology, and people being honest. :doh

We still have the green boxes... power tools in three, stuff for boat in two, others in shed with plumbing bits in, several in the loft with electrical plugs, sockets etc.Very tough boxes that stack, and if I recall, only a pound at the time.
What they should have done, is weigh the full trolley, allowing for how many green boxes are on board... easy.
Rustic

 

[makeitfit]

The 5p charge does not have to be given to charity at all.There's no legislation for that. However the company concerned does have to show in their annual returns what happened to those 5p charges. Most companies do donate to charity but not all :/
Waste in bins , why? Shouldn't be any waste
Recycling stuff is all clean.
The only mucky stuff we have is a bit of food waste before it goes out to the compost. No need for bags there either. We use old cereal boxes or just the food waste bucket. If it's the cereal packet then the food and that go in the compost, simples

 

[macabethiel]

Re-cycling - takes a lot of space !

Waste in bins , why? Shouldn't be any waste
Recycling stuff is all clean.
The only mucky stuff we have is a bit of food waste before it goes out to the compost. No need for bags there either. We use old cereal boxes or just the food waste bucket. If it's the cereal packet then the food and that go in the compost, simples

I do not generate any real compost as I have no lawn and most of the garden is slabbed or pond etc. Hard to recycle Polystyrene packing etc.

My garden flowers are in plant pots and a composter would take up more space than my 3 jocking wheelie bins !
Luckily for food stuffs we have a waste disposal unit in the sink that is great except when we manage to block it up by abusing it. lol

 

[Terrano Steve]

I think the idea is that if we are made aware that we are paying for a bag that we won't use as many but lets face it we were paying for the bag before built in to the cost of the groceries. Now we are just paying twice.
As for being conned by super markets it's something that they are certainly good at.

 

[makeitfit]

I do not generate any real compost as I have no lawn and most of the garden is slabbed or pond etc. Hard to recycle Polystyrene packing etc.

My garden flowers are in plant pots and a composter would take up more space than my 3 jocking wheelie bins !
Luckily for food stuffs we have a waste disposal unit in the sink that is great except when we manage to block it up by abusing it. lol

It certainly does take space that's for sure
Polystyrene is indeed a challenge ! I'm lucky here as I have a friend who supplies domestic appliances. They create mountains of the stuff. So he's invested in a polystyrene shredder . It's awesome (and expensive, but cheaper in the long run than tipping fees). I now have a bean bag project using old sails and recycled p/s filler (not fire rated but then it's on the beach )
I fit kitchens for my income and detest waste disposers . I know they're great for you but then they also perpetuate the whole insular attitude we have for recycling in general. They also bung up your drain pipes eeuuuuw

The real point ofcourse is that we ARE discussing environment et all thanks to England at last doing the 5p thing.

Any road up, do what you can and complain about the rest
Peace and light

 

[Fez_uk]

I've never paid 5p for a plastic bag as far as I can remember.
Neither do I use a plastic liner in my bin. Why would you need one ? There should be nothing in there to make the plastic bin dirty :nenau
We recycle virtually everthing. The only mucky stuff is a bit of food waste and that goes in the compost bin. Again no liner :nenau

I guess it's all to do with changing the attitudes of feckwits who think it's fine to lob out their bloody MacDonalds wrappers etc as soon as they've carbed up :doh
We have bins on the beach that twat grockles still can't work out what they're fookin' for

Exactly, Stop moaning england! :lol

 

[Lazy-Ferret]

Having spent a bit of time in Wales on and off, we had already got into the habit of having our own bags, so carried on when at home.

I am glad we have followed Wales as this makes the cashier think. The number of times we have had stuff put in bags before we could stop them, often when we are even holding the bag ready to use.

The lady in Pets at Home yesterday said she had sold 2 bags, where as they normally go through 200 plus a day.

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[Fez_uk]

I do not generate any real compost as I have no lawn and most of the garden is slabbed or pond etc. Hard to recycle Polystyrene packing etc.

My garden flowers are in plant pots and a composter would take up more space than my 3 jocking wheelie bins !
Luckily for food stuffs we have a waste disposal unit in the sink that is great except when we manage to block it up by abusing it. lol

Ceredigion council take and recycle polystyrene and they away the compost material including meat and bones etc.

 

[emjaybee]

Interesting stuff, I see on the news today that a Tesco store had 1/3 of it's baskets nicked in a week because people wouldn't pay for bags. It has now put security tags on it's remaining baskets. Another story was of another (unnamed ) supermarket putting security tags on its CARRIER bags for the same reason.

:lol

I myself have just yesterday been online and ordered 200 supermarket style bags as we can find no other suitable bags for clearing out our two cat litter trays on a daily basis. If anyone has any ideas on THAT problem then I'm all ears.

 

[Lazy-Ferret]

Interesting stuff, I see on the news today that a Tesco store had 1/3 of it's baskets nicked in a week because people wouldn't pay for bags. It has now put security tags on it's remaining baskets. Another story was of another (unnamed ) supermarket putting security tags on its CARRIER bags for the same reason.

:lol

I myself have just yesterday been online and ordered 200 supermarket style bags as we can find no other suitable bags for clearing out our two cat litter trays on a daily basis. If anyone has any ideas on THAT problem then I'm all ears.

The Unnamed super market was named on Twitter... It was Tesco... :doh

We have the same problem with the ferret waste in the Caravan, so buy the coloured scented peddle bin liners from the boot fair/poundshop. There are 2 sizes, the larger one, which gets you 20 for your pound, or the smaller ones which get you 40, but the 40's are not big enough to get the litter tray into the mouth of them, so are too much of a pain to use, but to be fair are about the size of a carrier bag, so might be OK for you.

Only thing you do have to do, is when you shake them out, to open them up, seal the neck with your hand, and give it a gentle squeeze to make sure there are no holes in them, as on the odd occasion as you rip them apart, the bottom seal gets ripped as well, which results in a shoe full of Ferret poo... Luuuvvvlllyyyyy If it does rip, I just tie a knot in the bottom, which leaves it still big enough for our needs.

At home, we have an old bin out in their court, with a normal black dustbin sack in, and pour the waste straight from the litter trays into the binbag, then just stick it out for the dustmen. We do have to be careful not to over fill it though.

 

[don simon]

There are 2 sizes, the larger one, which gets you 20 for your pound,

Or 5p per bag. :doh

Does the local authority provide you with the biodegradable food bags? Wouldn't they do the job & be free.

I'm loving the ingenuity people have at giving it to the man by avoiding to pay 5p per. Dudes, the objective is that you don't use the supermarket bags....

 

[Lazy-Ferret]

Or 5p per bag. :doh

Does the local authority provide you with the biodegradable food bags? Wouldn't they do the job & be free.

I'm loving the ingenuity people have at giving it to the man by avoiding to pay 5p per. Dudes, the objective is that you don't use the supermarket bags....

:lol:lol

But some of us were re-useing them for other purposes, not the same as just getting your shopping home and then binning them... Like you say, we could just carry on buying the bags though.

Our council are very bad, we have to pay for garden rubbish, which includes decompostable to be taken, and they won't take animal waste in that.

They don't take a lot of plastics, like Crisp packets, foil coated, any plastic that is basically makes a crinkle noise, waxed card, polystyrene, glass... The list goes on and on. We can take some of it to the amenity tip, but they don't let vehicles over 6" high in, and you are not allowed to park up and just walk in, so my T2 wont fit.

 

[don simon]

:lol:lol

But some of us were re-useing them for other purposes, not the same as just getting your shopping home and then binning them... Like you say, we could just carry on buying the bags though.

Our council are very bad, we have to pay for garden rubbish, which includes decompostable to be taken, and they won't take animal waste in that.

They don't take a lot of plastics, like Crisp packets, foil coated, any plastic that is basically makes a crinkle noise, waxed card, polystyrene, glass... The list goes on and on. We can take some of it to the amenity tip, but they don't let vehicles over 6" high in, and you are not allowed to park up and just walk in, so my T2 wont fit.

I find this incredible and now understand why so much fly tipping goes on. Last week I passed what was left of someone's bathroom in a local layby. Who clears that mess up? And probably more important, who pays?

 

[johnb5177]

I find this incredible and now understand why so much fly tipping goes on. Last week I passed what was left of someone's bathroom in a local layby. Who clears that mess up? And probably more important, who pays?

You do, through your local taxes (Community charge)......:nenau

 

[emjaybee]

Or 5p per bag. :doh

Does the local authority provide you with the biodegradable food bags? Wouldn't they do the job & be free.

I'm loving the ingenuity people have at giving it to the man by avoiding to pay 5p per. Dudes, the objective is that you don't use the supermarket bags....

We've never thrown out a supermarket bag that hasn't been used at least twice before, wrapping paint rollers, overshoes when nipping into customers houses, collecting recyclables, wrapping shoes for holiday packing, bin liners for my workshop bin/tack room bin/office bin, etc.

As for the cat litter, our tear-away white/tabby rescue kitten (now 2) insists on scratching to the bottom of the litter tray to pee, resulting in a lump of clumping litter the size of a soft-ball (I kid you not) welded to the bottom so you can't tip it out! Tried a deeper tray, he just digs deeper, his record so far...

...8 inches, I wanted to try deeper but the wife was worried it might cave in and bury the bugger!

:doh

 

[rustic]

I just looked on ebay and people are bidding on used Tesco carrier bags and the price per bag is well over 5 p already :doh

What is all that about?

:nenau

 

[emjaybee]

I just looked on ebay and people are bidding on used Tesco carrier bags and the price per bag is well over 5 p already :doh

What is all that about?

:nenau

Maybe they think they will be collectors items in years to come!

 

[emjaybee]

I find this incredible and now understand why so much fly tipping goes on. Last week I passed what was left of someone's bathroom in a local layby. Who clears that mess up? And probably more important, who pays?

Our local council is looking to reduce costs by closing down some of the local tips. You can't believe how thick they can be. My guess is that the amount of fly tipping will increase to the point that it costs them more than keeping the tips open.

:doh

Gotta love council mentality.

:thumbs

 

[johnb5177]

They don't have a brain cell to share between them, far too much short term thinking, too many chiefs for not enough Indians and incredible gold plated pensions for senior mismanagers......:doh

Rant over, sorry...