How Many Vans you had??

[Deleted account DD]

pheww I was worrying about my shed :lol:

In all seriousness its each to their own and dont get up tight about someone elses interests.

Good example is I hate Spanish "sunshine resort holidays" doesnt mean I'm right and several hundred thousand people are wrong . I'll cheerfully see them off at the airport because it leaves more space over here for MY CARAVAN :lol: :lol: :lol:

You a van dealer plank :?:

 

[(RIP) PLANK]

We were away this weekend, bit damned chilly but stayed warm and comfy in the van.

Youre right plank, we are very mains dependant. Whenever I pitch up anywhere I can live without site showers toilets etc (on board) so long as I've got a cold water supply and 240v :wink: oh and beer in the fridge 8)

So much for roughing it :lol:

What else is a caravan fridge for? :wink:
Looked at one van over the weekend 28 feet long..10 feet wide.. No water

Paul, by the weekend you had missed all of the clod weather it was positivley balmy by then :lol:

I have spent many happy times in the carvans you describe as 'dry' correctly known as travellers trailers, to be honest i have never understood the need for al the attatchments and gadgets, of a wet van, we never use any of them they are just there! i do have a water pump but it is in the gas bottle locker and has never been plugged in!

I used to have one caravan an old buccaneer with all the cut glass an leather and it had a wood burning stove, that was both fantastic and damn hard work at the same time, it is both missed and fondly remembered but I dont want another :wink:

 

[extreme-4x4]

Re: Contradicting posts ?

well i have to say... id hate a wet caravan.... correction - a caravan

You need educating :smile: nothing like the feeling of a twin axle behind you 8O

see thats it in a nut shell, why do you need to drag one around... when you can rent a sited one. its cheaper, no maintenance, dont need a big truck to pull one


i just dont see the point in owning a caravan, and despite being a tiny nuisance on the road, they are often really unsightly in front gardens and driveways etc... that the bit i find selfish about caravans.

if i put a big container in my front garden the neighbors ( if i had any) would rightly complain

as stated in another post they are a fire hazard in gardens they should not be allowed there are building regs for sheds for fire hazard etc but not caravans... they should be put into caravan storage places...

thats it end of moan :?

Your posts seem to contradict themselves bud. :?

:lol:
come on guys lets just keep this post open for the caravaners of the world, we seem to spoil all the caravan posts, and it just seems a little unfair

i too don't like them on the roads , but hey if that's there thing lets not knock it,

it should be a giggle reading how they have improved caravans with full size cookers, fridges , heating showers etc... so lets see if they have found a nice way to empty the toilet




extreme



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i have a 98 twin light maverick 2.7tdi

and a 94 terrano td, big wheels and covererd in an inch of mud
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So whats it to be ? Leave them alone or wind them up ? :lol:

ok ... well its no secret i dont like caravans for all the reasons i have stated, my family all own caravans , as stated in previous posts all garaged too so no spoiling views etc

i would suggest that my posts are not Contradicting,,, i thought it would be novel to ask people to not gang up on the roamers in that post so we can actually see what there point actually is

i cant see the point of caravans and think its only fair they have a chance to spread the word maybe convert us all... to the fine are of getting the s*it out of the can after it has been locked in a tin/fiberglass box for a week


really i dont think im going to sign up for that club

 

[Deleted account DD]

Get away....you dont like caravans ????? :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[extreme-4x4]

Get away....you dont like caravans ????? :lol: :lol: :lol:

no really i dont, but i do respect peoples freedom of choice .... i do object to caravans in gardens though although its on the re own property it does ruin the neighborhood


and i really dont see the attraction

 

[Deleted account DD]

I'd never have guessed :lol: :?

 

[extreme-4x4]

time to panic

a lot of confused stuff in there!

there are no regs for sheds!
and if its miore than 15 meters form your house you can build a 'shed' of any materials that covers half the area of your garden with no planning permission, no buuilding regs required as long as it is not to be a dewlling!


that is current planning law!

now a caravan is a road vehicle and as such is subject ot all kind of regulations! and when parked on your own property no bigger than a transit van or simmilar and perfectly legal.

I think some people take top gear antics too seriously :lol:

Planning Permission

Rules governing outbuildings apply to sheds, greenhouses and garages as well as other ancillary garden buildings such as swimming pools, ponds, sauna cabins, kennels, enclosures (including tennis courts) and many other kinds of structure for a purpose incidental to the enjoyment of the dwellinghouse.

Other rules relate to the installation of a satellite dish, the erection of a new dwelling or the erection or provision of fuel storage tanks.

Under new regulations that came into effect on 1 October 2008 outbuildings are considered to be permitted development, not needing planning permission, subject to the following limits and conditions:

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No outbuilding forward of the principal elevation fronting a highway.
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Outbuildings and garages to be single storey with maximum eaves height of 2.5 metres and maximum overall height of four metres with a dual pitched roof or three metres for any other roof.
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Maximum height 2.5 metres within two metres of a boundary.
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No verandas, balconies or raised platforms.
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No more than half the area of land around the "original house"* would be covered by additions or other buildings.
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In National Parks, the Broads, Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty and World Heritage Sites the maximum area to be covered by buildings, enclosures, containers and pools more than 20 metres from house to be limited to 10 square metres.
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On designated land* buildings, enclosures, containers and pools at the side of properties will require planning permission.
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Within the curtilage of listed buildings any outbuilding will require planning permission.

*The term "original house" means the house as it was first built or as it stood on 1 July 1948 (if it was built before that date). Although you may not have built an extension to the house, a previous owner may have done so.

*Designated land includes national parks and the Broads, Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty, conservation areas and World Heritage Sites.


Common projects: Outbuildings
Building Regulations

If you want to put up small detached buildings such as a garden shed or summerhouse in your garden, building regulations will not normally apply if the floor area of the building is less than 15 square metres.

If the floor area of the building is between 15 square metres and 30 square metres, you will not normally be required to apply for building regulations approval providing that the building is either at least one metre from any boundary or it is constructed of substantially non-combustible materials.

 

[(RIP) PLANK]

well said extreme 4x4 a detailed version of the advice i gave above, very little permisssion if any and none for most types of outbulidings not attatched to a dwelling or to be used for dwelling that are greater than 15 meters from a dwelling.

Mine was from memory not cut and pasted :wink:

one question, what have you got against caravans? a real gripe or were you scared by a nasty man in a caravan as a chid? :lol:

 

[(RIP) PLANK]

Get away....you dont like caravans ????? :lol: :lol: :lol:

no really i dont, but i do respect peoples freedom of choice .... i do object to caravans in gardens though although its on the re own property it does ruin the neighborhood


and i really dont see the attraction

ruins the neghbourhood?? you are starting to sound as biased as the antoi 4x4 brigade with your pet hates and NIMBY comments, why dont you start a thread on your interestes and we can cast a critical eye?


My caravans are both on my own property and have no detrimental effect to the area, in fact you cant even see them, I expect you have more rules and conditions to go with this, perhaps the no caravans round here manifesto :lol: :lol:

 

[extreme-4x4]

well said extreme 4x4 a detailed version of the advice i gave above, very little permisssion if any and none for most types of outbulidings not attatched to a dwelling or to be used for dwelling that are greater than 15 meters from a dwelling.

Mine was from memory not cut and pasted :wink:

one question, what have you got against caravans? a real gripe or were you scared by a nasty man in a caravan as a chid? :lol:

ok. i dont see the point to them as a holiday product unless your old

take an average family 2 adults 2 kids new caravan 12-15k

now based on 2 weeks holiday a year in a static lets say 3-500 a week how many years till it pays for itself 15-20 years plus maintenance insurance oh and having a big car all year to drag it around for 2 weeks of the year

now i can have 3 weeks in a static a year with the kids etc for less than a grand. nothing in the garden no extra fuel all year and so on.
they have statics all around the u.k


i often speak to customers with caravans and ask the same question

they say its nice to get away from it all for a few days... yes but you still have to go back to it ... the fairies haven't come in and done the housework and creosoted ya fence and unless you have magic grass that still grows too... well apart from the bit that's been under your caravan all year

i dont have a hang up about them... i just dont see the point to them

 

[Deleted account DD]

Extreme, this is getting silly.

One point though, an article was calculated in a caravan mag a couple of months ago about costs. They factored in expensive sites (more than I pay) and a posh van.

They then factored in cheaper holidays abroad than I took/take and guess what, the costs were almost bang on equal.

Therfore I can presume I'm at least paying the same out whichever holiday type I choose. Plus of course its used all year round.

How can you use the need a big car as an anti point when you run almost the same vehicle as me, a caravanner :?

And trust me, I've returned to the same house flying back from Bulgaria as I have driving with the van from Spain.

Each to their own.

I'm confident youre going for nothing but the wind up :lol:

What hobbies do you have then :lol: :wink:

 

[extreme-4x4]

ah, but i have a truck cos i live on a mountain and along a bumpy gravel/mud track,

omg you dont fly too do you... thats even worse

i read somewhere on some plane web site, the average flight is 10,000 miles return with an average passenger load 90% full the most common plane they had ... returns the same mpg per passenger as an average car traveling 8,000 miles,

so itst better for the environment to fly than drive an average car with only the driver,... but the average car has an average passenger load of 2 so the mpg per person would be halved

now if you look at the figures, if you your wife and 2 kids fly 10,000 miles return on one holiday you have already clocked up 32,000 miles of fuel .... in an average car


oh hobbies motor bikes i have a Kawasaki KDX420 air cooled 2 stroke, and cars......

and i dont have a problem with people with caravans... i just cant see the point in them...

 

[Deleted account DD]

Bulgaria isnt 10 000 miles and the 4 kids stayed at home :lol:

Now bikes..............

 

[Deleted Member D]

ex-treme 4x4 extreme

I think you said enough in this forum to express your interest in this thread when you said 'quote'................................

and i dont have a problem with people with caravans... i just cant see the point in them...


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i have a 98 twin light maverick 2.7tdi

and a 94 terrano td, big wheels and covererd in an inch of mud

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Surely if theres a thread that isnt of interest to you its best to stay out of that thread ? :?
If you have a strong opinion towards or against something surely you could/should start your own thread ? :?
Nobody is interested in your dislikes of caravans in this thread. Its negative bud.
Live and let live. :smile:

 

[andrewk]

and i dont have a problem with people with caravans... i just cant see the point in them...

Well, caravans work for us. I have a (now adult) handicapped, autistic daughter. She finds it impossible to settle anywhere new and cannot sleep in an unfamiliar bed/bedroom for the best part of a week, making holidays in hotels and self-catering accomodation very difficult. A caravan is a perfect solution, because it's effectively a home from home that she knows very well and can relax in immediately.

Many people, including me, find that a touring caravan can make it possible, easier and cheaper to have a holiday somewhere remote that we otherwise might not visit. We went to Clachtoll in Sutherland in 2006, for example. There are no hotels in Clachtoll. There are no pubs in Clachtoll. If you want to stay in Clachtoll, you either hire a static caravan or take your own tourer.

If you want to see whether it's worth visiting have a quick squint at: http://www.clachtollbeachcampsite.co.uk/ or at: http://www.clachtollholidays.co.uk/index.htm or http://www.clachtoll.org.uk/

We think it's one of the nicest places we've ever been.

Cheers
Andrew

 

[Deleted Member D]

The links

Very nice.
West of Scotland too. :wink:

 

[knotting_pot]

take an average family 2 adults 2 kids new caravan 12-15k

now based on 2 weeks holiday a year in a static lets say 3-500 a week how many years till it pays for itself 15-20 years plus maintenance insurance oh and having a big car all year to drag it around for 2 weeks of the year

now i can have 3 weeks in a static a year with the kids etc for less than a grand. nothing in the garden no extra fuel all year and so on.
they have statics all around the u.k

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Try factoring in a used caravan at todays prices of around £500 and the argument holds a little less water methinks...

 

[extreme-4x4]

take an average family 2 adults 2 kids new caravan 12-15k

now based on 2 weeks holiday a year in a static lets say 3-500 a week how many years till it pays for itself 15-20 years plus maintenance insurance oh and having a big car all year to drag it around for 2 weeks of the year

now i can have 3 weeks in a static a year with the kids etc for less than a grand. nothing in the garden no extra fuel all year and so on.
they have statics all around the u.k

[/quote

Try factoring in a used caravan at todays prices of around £500 and the argument holds a little less water methinks...

ah but im staying out of this post, i have no interest in this subject whatsoever , if you cant say "you dont see the point in something" in the hopes someone will explain the point... like andrewk did very well in his recent post... other people just seem to get thair feathers ruffled , thinking your moaning about them ... well i have not moaned about the people who use them ... i just dont see the point to them as a product


and to be extra childish im not even going to read this post anymore 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

 

[knotting_pot]

take an average family 2 adults 2 kids new caravan 12-15k

now based on 2 weeks holiday a year in a static lets say 3-500 a week how many years till it pays for itself 15-20 years plus maintenance insurance oh and having a big car all year to drag it around for 2 weeks of the year

now i can have 3 weeks in a static a year with the kids etc for less than a grand. nothing in the garden no extra fuel all year and so on.
they have statics all around the u.k

[/quote

Try factoring in a used caravan at todays prices of around £500 and the argument holds a little less water methinks...

ah but im staying out of this post, i have no interest in this subject whatsoever , if you cant say "you dont see the point in something" in the hopes someone will explain the point... like andrewk did very well in his recent post... other people just seem to get thair feathers ruffled , thinking your moaning about them ... well i have not moaned about the people who use them ... i just dont see the point to them as a product


and to be extra childish im not even going to read this post anymore 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

Bet you do :lol:

 

[Deleted account DD]

Re: The links

Very nice.
West of Scotland too. :wink:

Agreed but it ALWAYS rains when we're up there :?

and Andrew, yes lovely area. We've been on more holidays this year than ever before to places we've wanted to visit.

And still in pocket, in fact the Lakes this weekend & Monday :smile: