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But if I jumped onto it, climbed over and jumped off????? 10k is only able to jump an inch or so if that, Rick

so your plannig to rob me then? :lol

no the idea is most of the folks from urban areas have never even seen an electric fence so they touch it, get a belt and then leave it alone.

A friend of mine had 'issues' with a garden centre that backed onto a canal, so much troble he could no longer get insured. Same fence system installed and 3 robery free years.

alarm - waste of time, i'll turn it off then. fence - waste of time i'll turn it off then

what about the door locks? crap thought so, i'll leave the doors open then :lol

but if each thing is only 10% effective, then having ten different things might do the trick! what do you think?

such cynicism in one so young :lol
 
so your plannig to rob me then? :lol

no the idea is most of the folks from urban areas have never even seen an electric fence so they touch it, get a belt and then leave it alone.

A friend of mine had 'issues' with a garden centre that backed onto a canal, so much troble he could no longer get insured. Same fence system installed and 3 robery free years.

alarm - waste of time, i'll turn it off then. fence - waste of time i'll turn it off then

what about the door locks? crap thought so, i'll leave the doors open then :lol

but if each thing is only 10% effective, then having ten different things might do the trick! what do you think?

such cynicism in one so young :lol

Agreed, an alarm box is as good a as the complete thing, it stops the opportunist, the best alarm , will not stop the professional, electric fence the same, so easy to overcome, but to the general yobos stops them easy, we are fortunate enough to live in a place that we do not need to lock our doors, we do out of habit, but no need, we have cctv, but it has only been any good for watching the badgers and foxes, Rick
 
what you need for most bugglers is a visual deterent , and a alarm / notice warning of electric shocks / noises going off etc normally suffices to the brain dead morons that steal
 
Less determined burglars hate light and noise. More resourceful ones will check out the extent of your light and noise then decide if they can deal with it. A pro will have recce'd your place and will not be deterred.

All depends what level of atttack youre expecting and no measure should be discounted.

Alarms are very good because they put the level worry into many a burgling head and will create noise if activated (see above). Dummy boxes though are easily sussed :augie

Theres always a way around any electronic or mechanical device but it all depends as I said what level of attack youre expecting.

I'm sure theres people on here who have sadly been screwed after an alarm was disabled. But I can personally recall literally dozens, perhaps hundreds where people have been seen fleeing when a secreted security light came on or a patio door under attack set off the alarm.

Not one point above is made up. Its fact and literally straight from the horses mouth :thumb2

On a personal note I designed out home alarm. I looked at it from the "how would I want to by pass this" view. The trick with alarms is to think outside of the box and know how the burglar looks at your house. eg anti foam sensors are fine in the bell box but thats old hat now, do something like placing the SABI sperate say in a corner of the loft with a 200 decibel whooping siren attached.:naughty:naughty

Speak to your crime prevention bloke. Our local ones are spot on (have to say that really cos theyre good mates ) ;)
 
my mate trev has a great guard dog called major , its as soft as putty and lets you into the house , lets you stroke him ..... but if you try to leave he will pin you up against the wall :lol
 
well i have two 'homes' on eis in a remote rural area and the closest neighboiur is half a miel away, very off the beaten track, and everything you put down gets bloody stolen including the electric fence!

You can only do your best, and another big feature of security is 'peace of mind' even if it is a little deluded, you can at least enjoy it while it lasts!
 
Locks only keep honest people out.

On many occasions yes , on otherd no. I recall one scrote getting his lock pick screwdriver stuck in agarage door and legging it. I also remember finding a broken hacksaw blade..............and blood, in another aborted motorcycle theft. The I'm confident they rate their locks.

On a slight aside, have you ever tried kicking in or shouldering a door like they do on the tele ? More often than not it doesn't work but it furkin hurts lol
 
there are poeple now stealing pet dogs or randsom, i was reading of one case on the west midlands police force website today, after a long and interesting conversation with an officer who liked my new electric fence :thumb2
 
to be honest they would have a job pinching this one, he'd be hiding under the bed.
the last gsd didnt like people at all . and the other one roxy who the ex wife got rid of while i was at work was just plain nasty, to everyone not in the pack .... im thinking now maybe the ex failed to be in the pack.
bloody miss her ..... roxy that is
 
to be honest they would have a job pinching this one, he'd be hiding under the bed.
the last gsd didnt like people at all . and the other one roxy who the ex wife got rid of while i was at work was just plain nasty, to everyone not in the pack .... im thinking now maybe the ex failed to be in the pack.
bloody miss her ..... roxy that is

i'm not a big fan of dogs, i'm not even on touching terms with my own, but i do agree i like them more than i like my ex-wife :lol
 
On many occasions yes , on otherd no. I recall one scrote getting his lock pick screwdriver stuck in agarage door and legging it. I also remember finding a broken hacksaw blade..............and blood, in another aborted motorcycle theft. The I'm confident they rate their locks.

On a slight aside, have you ever tried kicking in or shouldering a door like they do on the tele ? More often than not it doesn't work but it furkin hurts lol

Quietest way to gain entry via a nice tough door is to jack the door frame apart with a portable body repair hydraulic jack
 
the tricks i've seen used against my own and other peoples property in the last year woule astonish you. I'm not going to put details on here as it might be educating would be criminals, not that i'm implying any of our members are criminals, but better to be safe than sorry.

I have had insurance rated padlocks costing almost £200 each removed 3 at a time in minutes flat. A friend had a very good quality and well thought out, steel securtiy door backed by a roller shutter and fronted by a heavy steel gate, all secured with 7 lever mortice locks, removed from a wall in less time than it would take to get the jack out of the boot. All caught on CCTV! and no succesfull police action.

This has all resulted on over £20k of unrecovered loss!

and on top of all that my daughters goat that was kidnapped and recovered died as an (indirect) result of his treatment only last week at the ripe old age of 18 months!:(
 
the tricks i've seen used against my own and other peoples property in the last year woule astonish you. I'm not going to put details on here as it might be educating would be criminals, not that i'm implying any of our members are criminals, but better to be safe than sorry.

I have had insurance rated padlocks costing almost £200 each removed 3 at a time in minutes flat. A friend had a very good quality and well thought out, steel securtiy door backed by a roller shutter and fronted by a heavy steel gate, all secured with 7 lever mortice locks, removed from a wall in less time than it would take to get the jack out of the boot. All caught on CCTV! and no succesfull police action.

This has all resulted on over £20k of unrecovered loss!

and on top of all that my daughters goat that was kidnapped and recovered died as an (indirect) result of his treatment only last week at the ripe old age of 18 months!:(


pm me then :bow:bow:bow:bow

pmsl
 
i find my dog is the best deterrent . very loud, always switched on and has a big bite.



Quietest way to gain entry via a nice tough door is to jack the door frame apart with a portable body repair hydraulic jack

The roller shutter on my garage is some15foot wide so thats some 'portable body repair hydraulic jack'

We have 3 dogs, 2 retrievers and a staffy!!:clap

I came into the house through the garage one evening and opened the back door, the dogs had seen me go out the front door and did not expect me comming in the back way ( this is sounding soooo wrong butt bear with me)
This startled them and the ran throuh to the front room and all landed on my wife, on the sofa shaking:doh
Useless!!!!!!!:nenau
 

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