heartbroken and sorry to you all .....the story

[tezzer]

it could be the torque converter drive plate has fractured, replaced quite a few in my garage days, and the garage would have had to undo bolts to allow torque converter to stay in bell housing, or he let the oil run out, and left torque converter on drive plate, but i doubt it though.

 

[willow]

Well just caught up with this
You really are having a bad time of it
But so did I
1. 4 wheel drive not working
folks here talked me thruough how to check how bad it was
in the end after trying to repair the auto 4x4 I fitted the manuel and since had no problems The garage that tried to repair it had not even thought about fitting the manuel
I got the bits from Millners thanks agin to this site and the garage fitted them
no problems since and its been well used:thumbs
Oil leakin everywhere again the garage said no idea where its comming from:nenau
Again folks on here pointed me in the right direction and it turned out to be a badly fitted oil filter:thumbs
All brake pipes and fuel pipes had to be replaced front to rear a big job loads of turns
The fuel tank had to be drained
fuel pump had to be reconditioned
Picked it up from the garage and drove off then arrived at the fuel station in clouds of smoke
Took it back to the garage and they had not connected the injecters properly
Had a service and glow plugs changed and it would not start :doh
Put the old glow plugs back in and no problem since:nenau
All I can say is ..we all have problems no matter what car we have
This site helped me fix mine don't give up yet:thumbs
I have had mine ..same age as yours... for 2 years now and its been the best 4x4 I have ever had:thumbs
I used to have land rovers before :nenau
Good luck........
......
clivvy your a star:thumbs

 

[briggie]

Well just caught up with this
You really are having a bad time of it
But so did I
1. 4 wheel drive not working
folks here talked me thruough how to check how bad it was
in the end after trying to repair the auto 4x4 I fitted the manuel and since had no problems The garage that tried to repair it had not even thought about fitting the manuel
I got the bits from Millners thanks agin to this site and the garage fitted them
no problems since and its been well used:thumbs
Oil leakin everywhere again the garage said no idea where its comming from:nenau
Again folks on here pointed me in the right direction and it turned out to be a badly fitted oil filter:thumbs
All brake pipes and fuel pipes had to be replaced front to rear a big job loads of turns
The fuel tank had to be drained
fuel pump had to be reconditioned
Picked it up from the garage and drove off then arrived at the fuel station in clouds of smoke
Took it back to the garage and they had not connected the injecters properly
Had a service and glow plugs changed and it would not start :doh
Put the old glow plugs back in and no problem since:nenau
All I can say is ..we all have problems no matter what car we have
This site helped me fix mine don't give up yet:thumbs
I have had mine ..same age as yours... for 2 years now and its been the best 4x4 I have ever had:thumbs
I used to have land rovers before :nenau
Good luck........
......
clivvy your a star:thumbs

im chuffed you got yours sorted , but my situation is slightly different with respect ... i have to have a auto because i physically cannot drive a manual , also i cannot service /repair my truck myself , so i have to rely on garages

 

[clivvy]

im chuffed you got yours sorted , but my situation is slightly different with respect ... i have to have a auto because i physically cannot drive a manual , also i cannot service /repair my truck myself , so i have to rely on garages

I think your right Pete, its much trickier for you, but Willows 100%. Dont give up just yet, just read his list of faults, thats a big list, i'd have been in despair. Your problem, your car problem, is a weird one. I'd suspect we could drive it away no problem, it'd warm up and then make some noise. I do wonder if we can sell "as is" to someone who can fix it? someone who has the garage space/time to do it..?

 

[sidsid06]

been away for a couple of days so just had a read though all the replys!

sorry to hear about your truck briggie it seems if its not 1 thing its another.

well all i can say is wait to here from the garage and hope its not bad news:thumbs

i will add this tho i had a alfa i know its not the same as your truck, but had gearbox replaced in that and a few days later had a knocking noise

and it was big end bearings!!! it seems that when 1 thing is fix it seems to add pressure to another part the engine!

got the bearings out and the wear on them indicated to inadequate oil changes air filter ect!!!! the donut who own the car before me never had it serviced!!

hope it not the same for your truck, keep your chin up briggie

 

[briggie]

been away for a couple of days so just had a read though all the replys!

sorry to hear about your truck briggie it seems if its not 1 thing its another.

well all i can say is wait to here from the garage and hope its not bad news:thumbs

i will add this tho i had a alfa i know its not the same as your truck, but had gearbox replaced in that and a few days later had a knocking noise

and it was big end bearings!!! it seems that when 1 thing is fix it seems to add pressure to another part the engine!

got the bearings out and the wear on them indicated to inadequate oil changes air filter ect!!!! the donut who own the car before me never had it serviced!!

hope it not the same for your truck, keep your chin up briggie

i dont want tp pre emt anything , but that sounds very plausible , i doubt very much the previous owner serviced it , lets hope its not

 

[briggie]

if it is these big end bearings .... is it fairly easy ( cheapish ) to repair ?

 

[lacroupade]

What's the tell tale signs of the "big ends" going? How many are there? Is it likely at all that they can go on an 80k mile engine, diesel at that!?

The engine clatters like buggery at all revs. Impossible to miss.

But I'll say it again, this SAME engine powers London taxis to mileages the bodywork of these trucks can only dream about.....does anyone actually KNOW anyone with a totally failed Mistral/Terrano/Maverick engine that hasn't been run without oil?

The fact its a diesel doesn't actually make that much difference except the motor is engineered to deal with compression ratios that would burst a petrol engine....

 

[clivvy]

if it is these big end bearings .... is it fairly easy ( cheapish ) to repair ?

it depends i think. could just be the rings perhaps...we'll know more tomorrow.

 

[briggie]

if you read page 9 of this it gives engine noise causes

http://bebrs.pie-dabas.net/Webs/Terrano/R20/em.pdf

 

[sidsid06]

if it is these big end bearings .... is it fairly easy ( cheapish ) to repair ?

on my alfa they were not the engine had to come out again

depends if you can get to them on your truck with out taking the engine out!

no doubt some one with more experience with these trucks be able to tell you.

i always had jeeps befor my t2 so know jeeps better!

nothing seems cheap now a days briggie.. evey thing seems to be expensive

 

[CHASTER]

Hello Briggie.
Hang on in there. These motors are reckoned to be bomb proof as far as major engine parts go.
I know it may seem ludicrous but it could be the same knocking as I had with my first Terrano.
It turned out to be one of the belts; don't know which one; I just sprayed the lot with WD40 and the clonking disappeared-----could hardly believe it :nenau
The knocking recurred ocassionaly but never as loudly as the first time. Each time I gave it the WD40 treatment and it became silent and smooth again .

I changed the belts eventually. End of story.
I know this sounds like "clutching at staws" , but anything is worth a try.

 

[Mundy]

Any news pete??

 

[briggie]

Any news pete??

nope sorry , im not really sure i want a phone call from the garage if that makes sense because i think im going to be devastated .

 

[Mundy]

might have found easy repair that they are working on? otherwise would have called by now to tell u cost etc...?

 

[briggie]

might have found easy repair that they are working on? otherwise would have called by now to tell u cost etc...?

i dont think theyve had chance to look at it yet

 

[briggie]

i dont think theyve had chance to look at it yet

my son tom ( awaiting embarkation in germany ) has had a word with some army mechanics .... they said they would bet that because the noise appeared after i had gone up a long hill quite fast ( under load ) that the big end bearings is a very likely culprit , failing that a bent camshaft . but without seeing it ( and they are in germany lol ) they couldnt be 100% sure

 

[makeitfit]

Well IF it is the big end or little end or bent cam You would be able to here it ALL the time. It would also get worse at higher revs until she blows captain:augie
Long hills at speed is what I do all the time and yesterday while off road I had to come down a monster hill . It was about 45 degrees plus and the back end was defo un weighted The revs went considerably higher than I'd heard on engine braking before, and all was well.
I'll be desperatly sorry for you if it is such a failure but the description doent suggest that. Good luck mate and go on , give them a bell
You know it makes sense, cause we'll be nagging you all nite otherwise:lol

 

[Deleted account DD]

they said they would bet that because the noise appeared after i had gone up a long hill quite fast ( under load ) that the big end bearings is a very likely culprit ,

Hmm you never said it appeared coming off load, just that after you'd been tear arsing around up (and therefore presumably off load down) hill and the engine was at idle ie already off load it was heard :doh its the nuances that make the difference

Clearly without a drive its difficult to tell 100%, but........................

I reckon if the noise is definitely from the engine block ,screwdriver BLUNT HANDLE END :augie to your ear sharp end to the block may help locate the area of the noise (old, rough but useful trick) its almost a dead cert it is the big/little ends or the con rod , absolute classic symptons. One or more of the bearing shells are either broken (look for bits of metal in the oil) or worn beyond tolerance. seen it loads of times.The noise comes from what I hinted at earlier where either the backlash is taken up or released. Oil pressure and the rest of its vitals would probably still look ok.

A potentially far more serious problem though is why has it happened? On such an apparently low mileage car it means either the mileage is not showing correctly ie its been clocked or new speedo ( new lower reading mph one fitted when it was brought into the country s/h perhaps ?) or it has just not been serviced properly.

If it is big end area problems I would be looking to get shot I have a bad feeling its only the start of things to come.

Have the garage had a proper look at it yet

 

[extreme-4x4]

guess not lol