Hammerite and underseal done

[AlexD333]

I got these last year,well happy.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000WTPJYQ/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I had this kit from Scamfords, an orange one, with a wheelie bench to lie on, two chucks, two axle stands and a jack. think it was £70?

do the jacks need mantinence? like lube?

 

[Lazy-Ferret]

I try not too be too nanny state, But I have to agree. You won't find me under a vehicle without axle stands. A jack could easily fail or be nudged by mistake.

You can get a set of fairly decent (5t?) stands off ebay for about £30-40 delivered.

We had it drummed into us at Automobile Engineering collage, and if they had their way, you would have put ACRO's under a full car lift before going under it, but nothing drives it home like the day I was asked by a policeman knocking on the door, if I had my Keys that fitted the JCB parked round the corner, and could I use it to lift a car up?

Our village butcher closed early on a Wednesday, and had spent the afternoon working on his car while it was supported on a hydraulic bottle jack. When his wife got home from work, he was still under the car, just his feet sticking out. She gave him a gentle kick, and told him she was going in to put the kettle on and to start tea, and he should come in and get washed up. 1/2 hour later she went out to see what was taking him so long, to find he had not moved...

The trolley jack had blown the seal, and dropped the car on him at some point, killing him... worst part was, the corona, implied that it was not a very fast death, as for a while, his chest will have supported the car.

I never go under a car now without something under it, even when I have a puncture, I put the spare wheel under the car while I jack it up, and then the punctured wheel under while I finish changing it, although that is not as much help on the 4x4, as it was on the Volvo V70.

Last Christmas, Suz bought me a brand new, trolley jack, one of those flashy ones that go from super low, to super high, and made of light weight ally... First time I used it, I lifted the car up, put it on Axle stands, finished working on it, and then when I went to get the car back off the stands, the seal went. I did check to see if she had recently taken out any insurance policies on me!!:nenau Worst part was, none of my other jacks lifted anywhere near as high, so I had to risk my neck using wood under the T2 jack to get it back off the axle stands.

 

[bry]

So was it a bottle jack or trolley jack,that had failed.

 

[Lazy-Ferret]

So was it a bottle jack or trolley jack,that had failed.

oppss, sorry, Yes, the Butcher's one, was a Lake Elliot Bottle Jack, I think every bodies dad had one of them at the time, and worst still, every bodies dad went under the car with out axle stands...

The one that failed on me was a brand new Trolley Jack, but I had Axle stands.. lucky for me.:clap

 

[AlexD333]

oppss, sorry, Yes, the Butcher's one, was a Lake Elliot Bottle Jack, I think every bodies dad had one of them at the time, and worst still, every bodies dad went under the car with out axle stands...

The one that failed on me was a brand new Trolley Jack, but I had Axle stands.. lucky for me.:clap

blimey, thats a horrid story :doh

 

[rustic]

blimey, thats a horrid story :doh

Now you know why we have a go when people don't take care of them selves.:thumb2

 

[dave123]

was this the stuff and how much did it use http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/..._productId_184439_langId_-1_categoryId_255239

 

[R1cho]

nice job, but i've heard hammerite is not the stuff to use if rust is already there as it just carries on rusting under the paint

 

[AlexD333]

nice job, but i've heard hammerite is not the stuff to use if rust is already there as it just carries on rusting under the paint

This says it treats rust on the tin.

Surely a marketing campaign would not lie to me :lol

 

[R1cho]

This says it treats rust on the tin.

Surely a marketing campaign would not lie to me :lol

well on the welding forums they wont use it on cars

 

[rustic]

well on the welding forums they wont use it on cars

I used black hamerite on a rusty caravan chassis, 8 years later and it was all still sound.:thumb2:thumb2

Wire brush in one hand, paint brush in the other.
If I can recall, it had two coats.

 

[Lazy-Ferret]

I thought the main reason car enthusiasts are not keen on it, is it dries to a very hard brittle cover, and if it gets chipped, or the metal it is on flexes, it then acts like a scab over the rust, and holds any water that gets in through the cracks against the metal encouraging more rust... if used with under-seal, that should not be a problem.

 

[twotanks]

We had it drummed into us at Automobile Engineering collage, and if they had their way, you would have put ACRO's under a full car lift before going under it, but nothing drives it home like the day I was asked by a policeman knocking on the door, if I had my Keys that fitted the JCB parked round the corner, and could I use it to lift a car up?

Our village butcher closed early on a Wednesday, and had spent the afternoon working on his car while it was supported on a hydraulic bottle jack. When his wife got home from work, he was still under the car, just his feet sticking out. She gave him a gentle kick, and told him she was going in to put the kettle on and to start tea, and he should come in and get washed up. 1/2 hour later she went out to see what was taking him so long, to find he had not moved...

The trolley jack had blown the seal, and dropped the car on him at some point, killing him... worst part was, the corona, implied that it was not a very fast death, as for a while, his chest will have supported the car.

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Witnessed something similar - guy at home working beneath his car and the jack failed. Car slowly crushed his chest and head and in his attempts to breathe he ended up biting his tongue off. Needless to say he was dead before the neighbours had a chance to physically lift the car and pull him out. His wife and young kids were in hysterics.

People think it will never happen to them.

It really reinforced the message that you can't trust any jack. You have to have axle stands.

Death comes to us all but theres no excuse for a stupid death.