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Tomas

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OK you veggie oil specialists.......
I run pretty much any make of Veg Oil in my old Maverick, but I'm hoping to be getting a new car soon.
My question is: Will Veg Oil work in a Brand New "Diesel Car" engine, the same as an old knackered Maverick 2.7TDi ????????????????????????
 
Modern Common rail diesel engines run at much higher pressures than injector pump equipped engines. They also have sensors which monitor fuel pressure and flow. The thicker veggie oil will not only upset the sensor readings and result in the ECU going into limp mode or shutting the engine down, but will add stress to the high pressure pump, injectors and tank lift pump if it has one.

You can still run sum common rails on veggie, I've heard of people doing it, but you need a seperate tank with a proper heater and you need to start on diesel and change over when the veggie is up to temp. Unless you're doing a lot of miles, I suspect the costs of the additional components would make it pointless.

I've also read about people thinning the veggie with petrol and running it in common rails, but they seem to be older engines that they can stand to replace components on if they go wrong.

There's a lot to consider about what can happen to the special coatings/hardening on the HP pump when running anything but diesel through them. Certainly I've seen a few pumps come apart inside and fill the fuel system with filings, even when run on diesel. And remember, the fuel return puts all those filings throughout your fuel system ( tank, lines, injectors, filter etc )
 
i think if it was a brand new car and you had any problems in sure the warranty people would have somthing to say about it!
 
Modern Common rail diesel engines run at much higher pressures than injector pump equipped engines. They also have sensors which monitor fuel pressure and flow. The thicker veggie oil will not only upset the sensor readings and result in the ECU going into limp mode or shutting the engine down, but will add stress to the high pressure pump, injectors and tank lift pump if it has one.

You can still run sum common rails on veggie, I've heard of people doing it, but you need a seperate tank with a proper heater and you need to start on diesel and change over when the veggie is up to temp. Unless you're doing a lot of miles, I suspect the costs of the additional components would make it pointless.

I've also read about people thinning the veggie with petrol and running it in common rails, but they seem to be older engines that they can stand to replace components on if they go wrong.

There's a lot to consider about what can happen to the special coatings/hardening on the HP pump when running anything but diesel through them. Certainly I've seen a few pumps come apart inside and fill the fuel system with filings, even when run on diesel. And remember, the fuel return puts all those filings throughout your fuel system ( tank, lines, injectors, filter etc )

Ooooooer!:eek:
 
i think if it was a brand new car and you had any problems in sure the warranty people would have somthing to say about it!

I couldn't agree more. Then you would be left with a bill for thousands of pounds and I'm not exaggerating there. :eek:
 
Just to put things in perspective. I've worked on cars many years. I've been working on an advanced fleet of diesel engined trains for the past 6 years, so I know about modern engines, canbus, integrated system vehicle communication buses etc etc and I sold my Navara not because it was unreliable but because I prefer the simplicity of a Patrol that I can fix with spanners and gaffer tape.

No electronics = no random roadside unrepairable faults.
 
Well, Thanks for the info.
I'm sure I won't be the only one to wonder about that.


Or, am I?
 
Well, Thanks for the info.
I'm sure I won't be the only one to wonder about that.


Or, am I?

I'm sure that you're not and to be honest I doubt that there is much real experience running them because people know the risks and can't justify the potential costs against the savings.

It's kind of a paradox, if you have enough money spare to pay the repair costs, then why bother saving a little bit on fuel ? On the other hand if you need to save on fuel then it's likely you haven't got a pile of cash lying around to repair it if it goes wrong. If that makes sense.
 
I drive a bus and on my way to Barnsley a couple of weeks ago was following a 57 plate Merc van, I think he had put veggi oil in, it was coughing spluttering and kicking loads of smoke out, but the give away was!!!!!!!!!!! the SMELL :lol
 

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