End of our holiday

[Lazy-Ferret]

just finished reading the rest and looks like you are sorted but if you need it? Rick

Thanks so much Rick, the trouble is, the WD21 has completely different tow bar fixings to the T2, so you can't inter change them.

I think I may have finally found one for the WD21, but it is nearly £250, and we would have to wait for it to be made. I still want one for the car anyway, so will continue to keep an eye out, and may have to cave to the new one, but I must admit that that price hurts.

What I do not know, is what the towbar I have here is for.. I wonder if it is a short wheel base T2

The good news is, I got a chance to get under my T2, and feel a lot more confident. The tow bar cross member is slightly twisted, but the Chassis looks fine. The Bumper is wrecked, as is the metal under bumper, but all the lights are fine. Hopefully, it will just be a new rear bumper, and metal work behind, as it has not touched the body. Hopefully they should do that with out writing it off.

The caravan on the other hand....

I don't think even Zippy could fix this..

This the the remains of the locker on the side she hit. taken looking towards the back of the van

This is the other end of the locker, the sliding divider door is here, and the wall backs onto what is left of the cassette toilet. Glad that was empty!!!!

After the toilet compartment, is the wardrobe, which is also destroyed, and upon looking it over today, the aluminium side of the van is kinked vertically about a 1/3 of the way along.

This is the other side of the van, the cooking area, and there should not be any gap there at all.

 

[solarman216]

Sorry I forgot you had two, both different, any way I have an almost new rear bumper metal frame, it was fitted to my scrapper still has the paper sticker on it, I will put your name on it, not sure if I have a bumper or not, know I did have one but may have binned it, is yours flat under the spare or curved, Rick

 

[Lazy-Ferret]

Sorry I forgot you had two, both different, any way I have an almost new rear bumper metal frame, it was fitted to my scrapper still has the paper sticker on it, I will put your name on it, not sure if I have a bumper or not, know I did have one but may have binned it, is yours flat under the spare or curved, Rick

Mine is the flat one...

Hopefully since it was not our fault her insurance should be doing it, but if it looks like they might think of writing it off, I would love to take you up on that offer...

 

[solarman216]

wait to hear mate no probs, Rick

 

[bry]

Jeez, hope you are all ok even the lady in the Corsa. Make sure you are both OK, if you have any neck or back pain seek medical advice. A dull ache can turn into months of pain I know!!! It can take a week or so before pain and stiffness really set in so be very careful.

I concur,But a lot of crap is said about whiplash injures.It is not always felt immediately.I was was rear ended once(felt fine till the next day).Then i had to undergo extensive physiotherapy.And still suffering neck pain years later.
Machinery and vehicles can be replaced.Lives cannot.Best wishes to everyone involved.

 

[Lazy-Ferret]

I concur,But a lot of crap is said about whiplash injures.It is not always felt immediately.I was was rear ended once(felt fine till the next day).Then i had to undergo extensive physiotherapy.And still suffering neck pain years later.

Yes, it's amazing how much we both ache today...

My foot that was on the clutch is really hurting tonight as well. I have quite a large bruise on my upper back, sort of heading round under my arm, not sure how I did that, as I do not remember feeling it at the time.

The ambulance lady kept telling me to sit down in the the ambulance for a while, but I said to her, that all the time I kept going, I was fine, it's once I stop and have a chance to think about whats just happened, etc, that I will start to feel it all.

Must admit that once I got home and actually sat down with a cup of tea, I felt that if anyone had said "Boo" to me, I would have burst into tears... very un-manly.:lol

 

[bry]

Yes, it's amazing how much we both ache today...

My foot that was on the clutch is really hurting tonight as well. I have quite a large bruise on my upper back, sort of heading round under my arm, not sure how I did that, as I do not remember feeling it at the time.

The ambulance lady kept telling me to sit down in the the ambulance for a while, but I said to her, that all the time I kept going, I was fine, it's once I stop and have a chance to think about whats just happened, etc, that I will start to feel it all.

Must admit that once I got home and actually sat down with a cup of tea, I felt that if anyone had said "Boo" to me, I would have burst into tears... very un-manly.:lol

Adrenaline Is the reason you felt little or no pain at the time.Now that you have(Calmed Down)It is your Adrenalin level that has now come down.Therefore,your aches and pains become evident.
I would in your case ,once able to.Seek Medical advice.
All the best pal.:thumbs

 

[jims-terrano]

Yes, it's amazing how much we both ache today...

My foot that was on the clutch is really hurting tonight as well. I have quite a large bruise on my upper back, sort of heading round under my arm, not sure how I did that, as I do not remember feeling it at the time.

The ambulance lady kept telling me to sit down in the the ambulance for a while, but I said to her, that all the time I kept going, I was fine, it's once I stop and have a chance to think about whats just happened, etc, that I will start to feel it all.

Must admit that once I got home and actually sat down with a cup of tea, I felt that if anyone had said "Boo" to me, I would have burst into tears... very un-manly.:lol

Clive, you were in shock mate. Until you got home you were running on adrenalin. As said before genuine whiplash is a serious injury and takes a lot of getting over. You need to get yourself to your GP tomorrow, the both of you and get yourselves checked out. If you are suffering whip lash expect it to get worse this week, look out for pins n needles or numbness in your arms and seek medical advice if you get these symptoms. Report it to your insurance company. If you are offered physio take it do not refuse it as it helps.

 

[jims-terrano]

Adrenaline Is the reason you felt little or no pain at the time.Now that you have(Calmed Down)It is your Adrenalin level that has now come down.Therefore,your aches and pains become evident.
I would in your case ,once able to.Seek Medical advice.
All the best pal.:thumbs

Must be good advice we were both typing it at the same time:thumb2

 

[briggie]

yup , adrenaline is brown , sticky , and smelly

 

[Lazy-Ferret]

Thanks for the advice guys, we will see how we feel in the morning, hopefully we will get a better nights sleep, as we are less het up now.

yup , adrenaline is brown , sticky , and smelly

Ahhhh.. I wondered what that was, I thought it was the spilt portaloo...:lol:lol

 

[solarman216]

Sorry peoples but all this whiplash crap only goes to fuel the compensation culture that is going on out there, if you have head rests set at your height then you should not experience whiplash the head rest will take it, Rick

 

[jims-terrano]

I agree there's a comp culture out there Rick and other than me mentioning he informs his insurance company it has not been mentioned. Whiplash is an injury that can be sustained in just such an incident that Clive has gone through. It's a serious injury and can lead to all kinds of complications. Head rests alleviate it to an extent but it's the muscle strain of the head moving forward that is the problem. The head is the heaviest part of the body and puts a lot of strain on the body, not just the neck and back.

I think the problem is often people use it as an excuse to claim money when there is nothing wrong with them. We've all heard about this type of thing.

In a genuine case of any injury and loss I don't see a problem with claiming.

Anyway this may be detracting from Clive's thread. Clive and his wife's health is primary in peoples advice.

 

[Lazy-Ferret]

The head is the heaviest part of the body

Unfortunately, not in the case of this body...:lol:lol:lol That's even having a head as big as mine:lol

I do agree with Rick on the compensation culture, but having had whiplash, I do know it is very real.

Many years ago, I had a 3 week old LWB Vitara, and I stopped at a zebra crossing, luckily just as the people had finished crossing a Range Rover failed to stop, and hit me so hard, he pushed me with my wheels locked up right across the zebra crossing.

Luckily, I had 2 policemen standing just back from the crossing as witnesses... Anyway, the Vitara had full head rests, and even though my head was only an inch or so off of it, my head hit it so hard, my mouth slammed shut, and broke a tooth. The next day, every tooth in my mouth was aching, and then the whiplash set in... For me, it was literally that bit, where the head joins to the spine, and the pain emanated out from there... Luckily, the pain only lasted a couple of weeks, and the strong pain killers they prescribed for the first 5 days worked wonders...

But I do have my pride, and would only go to the hosp/docs if I am in real pain, I do not want to be part of this "claim" culture.

 

[kitchenman]

Get seen NOW the longer you leave it the less chance you have of a claim if it all goes pear shaped
You do not need to make a claim, it is just like getting a crime number for insurance purposes, get entered on the system, you may regret being a tough guy later.
Imagine the lawyer for the other side, " but Mr Ferrett if you were really injured you would have got medical assistance at the time":doh

 

[arcascomp]

Page four and no-one asked about the ferrets! Surely those wee guys would have had a shock too.

Seriously, glad everyone is okay/repairable and that your T2 doesn't sound totalled either. Watch for the insurance company 'taking it off your hands' and insist it stays with you until they decide what they're offering. Probably the best option would be a 'technical write off' where they guess it's value before and after and then offer the difference plus a bit to you so you can fix it yourself.

If it's to be repaired by a Nissan garage then it'll be a write off as a part like the bumper will be as common as the droppings of a rocking horse in the new parts bin. Sounds like you need to make a trip to Rick for a holiday next!

 

[firebobby]

Get seen NOW the longer you leave it the less chance you have of a claim if it all goes pear shaped
You do not need to make a claim, it is just like getting a crime number for insurance purposes, get entered on the system, you may regret being a tough guy later.
Imagine the lawyer for the other side, " but Mr Ferrett if you were really injured you would have got medical assistance at the time":doh

Good advice.
I have a feeling the madam who inflicted all your damage will be claiming :augie

 

[Lazy-Ferret]

Page four and no-one asked about the ferrets! Surely those wee guys would have had a shock too.

Seriously, glad everyone is okay/repairable and that your T2 doesn't sound totalled either. Watch for the insurance company 'taking it off your hands' and insist it stays with you until they decide what they're offering. Probably the best option would be a 'technical write off' where they guess it's value before and after and then offer the difference plus a bit to you so you can fix it yourself.

If it's to be repaired by a Nissan garage then it'll be a write off as a part like the bumper will be as common as the droppings of a rocking horse in the new parts bin. Sounds like you need to make a trip to Rick for a holiday next!

Luckily for us, Rick is not to far away... No need for a holiday, just an hours drive...:bow

Thank you for asking about the ferrets... Luckily, they travel in style, with padded pocketed hammocks that they can actually get inside, and padded cage liners, and I have built a suspended floor for the cages to sit on as well, which makes a level surface for the cages to sit on, and leaves enough room under it, for us to still be able to get stuff in and out of the boot, with out having to lift their cages out the way. Not only that, but it allows the heavy stuff, like the 45Kg of litter, generator, and 45l of fuel we were carrying (In metal jerry cans) to all be under the cages, meaning that they can not crush the cages, should they move!

The force of the impact, snapped a couple of the plastic webbing clips, on the shelf, but with the stuff under it, it was fine. The only thing that was scary, was we realised that once the back door was jammed shut, we had no way of getting to the ones at the rear. I may have to have a rethink for the future, as I have seen a few pictures of towing cars on fire over this last couple of weeks.

This is one of the cages they travel in.

Our ferrets are so used to travelling, that once the car is moving, they tend to climb inside the various hammocks, and sleep for most of the journey, just getting up every so often to use their litter trays, or ask "Are we there yet?", ferrets sleep for 20 odd hours a day and I think most actually slept right through it, only waking up when the Emergency services started oohhhing and aahhhing over them.

Thanks for the advice on the car, I will wait to see what they say, but luckily I drove the car back home, and the caravan was also delivered onto the drive, so no-one is getting the car until I know exactly what they are thinking of doing.

 

[zippy656]

Just mend it with a new one,

Look at tilshead caravan site. We got a few for sale

 

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