Depression.

[jims-terrano]

Ironically this morning an email came through at work informing us that in May there is Mental Health week. My work place are having events to mark this, a very clued up place and supportive employer too and much as politically correctness would say it is wrong the place is a male dominated environment. Anyway here are a couple of links the email had.

Living with the Black Dog Of depression https://youtu.be/XiCrniLQGYc

http://www.time-to-change.org.uk/

 

[don simon]

Ironically this morning an email came through at work informing us that in May there is Mental Health week. My work place are having events to mark this, a very clued up place and supportive employer too and much as politically correctness would say it is wrong the place is a male dominated environment. Anyway here are a couple of links the email had.

Living with the Black Dog Of depression https://youtu.be/XiCrniLQGYc

http://www.time-to-change.org.uk/

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[jims-terrano]

Well guys it’s Mental Health Awareness week and as promised my employer has been running events to mark this. Today I went to the Mental Health Awareness Session over lunchtime. There was a guest speaker Jon Moss premiership referee, what a great bloke he is and has his fair share of stress on the pitch and off including his daytime job. There was a lot of info about health and fitness along with try out sessions for different ways of exercise. There was also a free lunch:augie
One thing that struck me is that a good diet can help tremendously with mood and outlook, apparently Omega3 is key which is not just oily fish but also walnuts are a large source of it.

Just thought it was a good subject to bump due the nature of this week.

Hope you’re feeling ok at the moment mate.

 

[zephyr]

I think it's time to start dealing with this, and fitst thing is to get it out there and say that I have been diagnosed with depression.

...Recently I'm steps behind from other members, but just read this post. Sorry to hear about this but I praise your courage and I appreciate you what you shared how you are. Hope you are doing good.

As my partner used to have depression, I understand how hard things can be. Although it really depends on how it comes out, how heavy it is, how your circumstances are, in my very humble opinion most of people who have/had depression that I have met, are someone who usually makes their best effort, trying things to be perfect, have a higher expectation on things that she/he is dealing with, very thoughtful on people/things. So all who are hard workers:bow

My partner's case was she had so many things to deal with, making her best efforts with all things she had ended up physical impacts on her body like pain/burning sensation with her shoulder, neck, back, then it came down to her arms, legs. She had to be off work for three months+. At that time I had a bit of problem to face the situation to support her. (I thought I'm like J-Tac, me too, I'm sometimes too light hearted. Looks like I have a laugh tolerance at quite low so it is easy to make me laugh) But in the end I have learnt but not 100%, to support her. When she's in a depression mode, she could get easily cry, shout or with pains over her body. But as she started to take medication; citalopram, she started changing her mood gradually for over long period of time to get back to how she was before depression happened.

Now she's fine (but easily can get pains all over her neck, shoulder, back so we are very careful about it), though sometimes she can get very stressed and unhappy when things didn't go well. Still I'm not doing 100% good to deal with her mood, sometimes something I do/I say would make things worse, but I think we are doing ok.

Thanks, Jim for reminding Mental Health Awareness week.

 

[don simon]

I guess it's time for an update and give thanks for the words of support, the light at the end of the tunnel isn't always an oncoming train...
It's good that you can be open about it at work Jim, I think that working in sales is a bit different and that there is so little understanding that depression would be seen as a weakness. I tend to look at as being challenging and character building, that when days go well that I look to see how the days went well and try and replicate this.
That might actually be normal for most.
This last week has been brilliant, and the weather has played a major part. I have done more cycling this last week than in the rest of the year. Exercise is important, and as Jim knows, diet is important. I think we know that I already take my food seriously and try not to eat rubbish, even when out and about camping.
So part of the self improvement is putting a greater priority on cycling, it has taken a bit of a backseat due to weather and work, I'm developing a strategy for when the weather is rubbish and when I'm working away from home.

One of the things I missed when I was in Spain was music. There's a huge amount of rubbish Spanish music out there, but thanks to 6 Music, I'm getting back into it.

As I said, this week has been good and one of the reasons has been that I've been busy, so guess what my objective is now.
Again that's probably normal for most, but a little insight into the thought process is connected into the point of doing things and it becomes a downward spiral. What's the point of ironing a shirt? It'll only get dirty and creased.
What's the point in doing the washing up? Plates will only get dirty again, just clean the ones that you need.
What's the point in hoovering? Etc, etc.
It's a negative thought process that makes inactivity a very easy option.
Training myself to think differently is a challenge, but so far, so good.

I'm trying to deal with things on my own, there is no family support because those barstewards are one of the contributory factors. I found a packet of Cilatropram last week and was tempted to open it, but I see that as a failure, I didn't need tablets to help me get depressed, I shouldn't need them to get me out of here.

I'm not sure if any of that makes sense, but it's kind of good to get it out there.

Thanks for the positive replies and feedback. :clap :bow

 

[RJL Services]

i suffer with severe depression for the last 5 years and tablets is all the doctor offers i did take them for the first year and found myself not being able to do anything that i used to do or make any type of descision i ditch them one day and suffered a severe withdraw from them the shakes was the worst but now i do feel better without them but still suffer from the depression and due to other health issues meant i had to retire but having time on your hands is the worst bit i find but try and stay positive and focused does help and even if it just setting little goals to get done does help to but the wait for any kind of therapy around me is a long one i have been waiting a year now for cbt with no help insight yet but do find my monthly talk with my therapist lady really helps me to gives me drive so the next time i see her i have acheived what she had set out for me

 

[Blocky10]

Well those 2 posts are full of positivity
Glad you're feeling better about yourselves.
Just reading this thread is helpful:thumbs

 

[johnb5177]

It is sometimes so very difficult to be or gain positives.....but they are there, we somehow cannot see through the fog...good friends help, as does exercise and good diet, as stated in previous posts.
I have been able to organise myself again, and returned to twice weekly sessions in a gym and pool....feeling the difference already.
My son in law is going through another bout of depression, and trying to help him......nearly the blind leading the blind....except in the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king......
This site is so good, so much support from an extended family....:bow :bow :bow

 

[zippy656]

Your not the only one.

There are more of us than your ever think.

Subjects like this on a 4x4 site? Just shows how much we think of everyone here. Its not easy to stand up and some things. To family or friends.

I'm glad to say I know what causes mine, even better to know what helps me. Not all the family that's for sure! But friends, some I've not even met yet, friends here I feel help a lot more than they will ever know.

 

[johnb5177]

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[macabethiel]

I'm trying to deal with things on my own, there is no family support because those barstewards are one of the contributory factors. I found a packet of Cilatropram last week and was tempted to open it, but I see that as a failure, I didn't need tablets to help me get depressed, I shouldn't need them to get me out of here.

I'm not sure if any of that makes sense, but it's kind of good to get it out there.

Thanks for the positive replies and feedback. :clap :bow

Good weather always helps with mild depression (e.g. SAD) and of course exercise releases endorphins that affect mood in a positive way as does having sex. The brain is a complex organ that is really not well understood, it is sensitive to chemical changes that affect the circuitry & thus how you feel.

You should not see taking medication if it is prescribed by your GP as a failure, quite the reverse it takes courage to visit your GP and get help .

Just like you might have a vitamin injection for certain conditions as your body is lacking in certain nutrients (hence need for a balanced diet) so the brain sometimes causes physical manifestations like depression due to chemicals like serotonin being either too high or too low. Drugs such as S.U.I.'s can fix the brain function over time, some drugs work better with some and not others it is a bit trial and error. That said nothing ventured nothing gained.

You might be able to tough it out with self help and recover much like a bad sore throat often gets better without antibiotics. But the question I ask myself is can I avoid another sore throat by addressing the cause and treat the cause rather than the symptom.
This why CBT can help.

Not trying to preach or be smart just giving an opinion based on my personal journey through the last 70 years as a flawed human being

 

[perelaar]

Don Simon, glad to hear things are going a bit better for you. Can't offer any meaningful advice as I have no experience with depression, but if you want to leave things behind for a few days and visit the land of Kafka, chocolate and beer I'm very willing to share some proper beers with you here in Belgium!