Depression.
- Thread starter don simon
- Start date
Help Support Nissan 4x4 Owners Club Forum:
Lazy-Ferret
Well-known member
- Joined
- Jun 14, 2012
- Messages
- 5,217
Try putting it into 4wd low, not met a deep enough hole that does not work on...
Sorry, being a bit flippant, I have the same, but most of the time can keep it under control by looking at the bigger, hopefully brighter, picture.
Having a back log of jobs with no end in sight seems to trigger mine, and things that are out of my control, like having to find someone to do things if I can't do them.
Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
johnb5177
Well-known member
- Joined
- Sep 11, 2013
- Messages
- 1,586
Don,
I read with sadness and interest, your post. However, recognising that you have a problem and confronting it yourself, is a huge leap forward in getting help and hopefully resolving the greater crisis......you have to want to help yourself.
I curse roundly those people that just say.. ..oh, just pull yourself together...!!!!! What utter nonsense and crass behaviour, I would almost wish it on them and see how they got on.....but I wouldn't wish it on anyone....
It has been a recurring problem for me.....I have have had medication in the past, when first diagnosed, along with very good counselling.
On the second occasion, I had no medication, but again received very good counselling.
Currently I believe I am very down, but just about coping......
All the episodes I think, were triggered by critical events in my life. I also learnt a while back that my Father was depressive, and gather that this may be hereditary.
I learnt and developed coping strategies, and also learnt the little alarm bells/early warnings to look out for......they do help enormously.......it's just a shame that this time around, I was too busy and engrossed in my move back/house renovation, to notice them......and crashed and got a little burnt.....
Medication is not the definitive cure (there isn't one really) but good counselling (talking therapy) is very often a great way forward. It depends greatly on your individual GP' s attitude and resources to help you, rather than just doling out tablets, and hoping you'll go away.....I know I was mega lucky with my GP.. ..
As a family on here, we confronted Uncles life changing events, and supported him and others through them.....lets hope that mental health problems can receive the same open and caring support......
I'm sure they will....
I read with sadness and interest, your post. However, recognising that you have a problem and confronting it yourself, is a huge leap forward in getting help and hopefully resolving the greater crisis......you have to want to help yourself.
I curse roundly those people that just say.. ..oh, just pull yourself together...!!!!! What utter nonsense and crass behaviour, I would almost wish it on them and see how they got on.....but I wouldn't wish it on anyone....
It has been a recurring problem for me.....I have have had medication in the past, when first diagnosed, along with very good counselling.
On the second occasion, I had no medication, but again received very good counselling.
Currently I believe I am very down, but just about coping......
All the episodes I think, were triggered by critical events in my life. I also learnt a while back that my Father was depressive, and gather that this may be hereditary.
I learnt and developed coping strategies, and also learnt the little alarm bells/early warnings to look out for......they do help enormously.......it's just a shame that this time around, I was too busy and engrossed in my move back/house renovation, to notice them......and crashed and got a little burnt.....
Medication is not the definitive cure (there isn't one really) but good counselling (talking therapy) is very often a great way forward. It depends greatly on your individual GP' s attitude and resources to help you, rather than just doling out tablets, and hoping you'll go away.....I know I was mega lucky with my GP.. ..
As a family on here, we confronted Uncles life changing events, and supported him and others through them.....lets hope that mental health problems can receive the same open and caring support......
I'm sure they will....
Thomas61
Well-known member
- Joined
- Sep 24, 2014
- Messages
- 658
Hi,
This is definitely something that should a open subject. A very positive step Don simon, we as blokes should talk more.
We were shown this video at some training I attended late last year and one that I actually thought was well put together and at least to me thought provoking.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XiCrniLQGYc
This is definitely something that should a open subject. A very positive step Don simon, we as blokes should talk more.
We were shown this video at some training I attended late last year and one that I actually thought was well put together and at least to me thought provoking.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XiCrniLQGYc
don simon
Well-known member
- Joined
- Oct 17, 2014
- Messages
- 2,214
I'm sacred to death about talking about it at work, as a glorified salesman I'm supposed to be upfront and confident, which I am (and which has no connection with depression). I also know that there is a strong likelyhood that it'll be misunderstood (it has happened in the past with a company that claims to have stong links with mental health charities and a strong internal mental health policy). I mentioned to my previous employer that their mental health policy was failing (me), and they responded that I was talking rubbish and that the policy was robust. That really makes you want to talk about it and be concerned about companies that promote mental health policies.
There's enough people out there talking about it that I feel quite confident discussing it now..... Just not at work....
Hopefully it is positive.
We all have something wrong with us, my failure is depression.
Thanks for the replies.
don simon
Well-known member
- Joined
- Oct 17, 2014
- Messages
- 2,214
Replied. MWUAK!
johnb5177
Well-known member
- Joined
- Sep 11, 2013
- Messages
- 1,586
There's enough people out there talking about it that I feel quite confident discussing it now..... Just not at work....
Hopefully it is positive.
We all have something wrong with us, my failure is depression.
Thanks for the replies.
Don, Your depression IS NOT YOUR FAILURE.......
It is merely the side effect of submicroscopic trace elements missing, causing a reaction.....thats a bit of science out of the way......
I'm a big hairy lumberjack, so what ! What you are doesn't make you who you are...
So don't tell work, tell your friends, your family (this one included) and certainly if they have the regard they should have for you, they will listen and try to help.....
don simon
Well-known member
- Joined
- Oct 17, 2014
- Messages
- 2,214
That was an attempt at humour.
Tell my family!!!!! THEY'RE THE MAJOR KERFUFFLING CAUSE OF IT!!!!!
jims-terrano
Well-known member
- Joined
- Sep 20, 2004
- Messages
- 12,956
Agreed with what has been said and whole heartedly agree that blokes don’t talk enough, this is one thing uncle has left us all with. It’s all too often brushed under the carpet which is utter crap. The black dog often pops along unexpectedly and it’s right that people should talk about it.
I also believe that meds are not always the answer but good friends are.
I also believe that meds are not always the answer but good friends are.
Blocky10
Well-known member
- Joined
- Mar 20, 2014
- Messages
- 3,599
I too do not and have not suffered with depression, as far as I'm aware, but if I did have a problem I thought I couldn't share with anyone close to me, I would be visiting my doctor.
They are supposed to be professionals and I'd hope, guide me in the right direction.
As already said DS, you've got a head start on it sharing your thoughts here.
All the best and carry on looking after No. 1 :thumbs
They are supposed to be professionals and I'd hope, guide me in the right direction.
As already said DS, you've got a head start on it sharing your thoughts here.
All the best and carry on looking after No. 1 :thumbs
jims-terrano
Well-known member
- Joined
- Sep 20, 2004
- Messages
- 12,956
One problem is recognising you have a problem and then having a clear enough thought process and confidence to go to the doctors. That’s one reason why people suffer in silence. What a hell of a place we have here guys, I’ve seen it evolve and change over the years and mature into the place we all have here. Long may the place last.
Jay666d
Well-known member
- Joined
- Jul 12, 2016
- Messages
- 1,375
I love to see the support given on this site... Makes me feel all warm inside! (& I've been accused more than once for not having any feeling; 'Emotionally Void' was the exact wording!)
It takes a huge amount of bravery to tell others about it, so I commend you (and others on this thread!) for that! :bow
It's hard to find the words to say, because being of a 'Sunny Disposition' I could come across as being a bit too light hearted about the matter!
I had no dealing with depression/mental health, until my last girlfriend. Up to that point, I'm ashamed to say that I could of fell into the category of those who would flippantly say 'Just think positive...' and other such cliche nonsense!
She really did open my eyes to the whole thing... And I honestly wish you all the best! Look out for those signs of dips, know your triggers... It's already been said, but I don't know too much more than that.
I was like a spotter for my now ex girlfriend, I knew the signs and her triggers, but all to often would still fall short!
Anyway, I could waffle... You know that as a big family, we're always here to lend an ear. (Or an eye if we're reading!)
It takes a huge amount of bravery to tell others about it, so I commend you (and others on this thread!) for that! :bow
It's hard to find the words to say, because being of a 'Sunny Disposition' I could come across as being a bit too light hearted about the matter!
I had no dealing with depression/mental health, until my last girlfriend. Up to that point, I'm ashamed to say that I could of fell into the category of those who would flippantly say 'Just think positive...' and other such cliche nonsense!
She really did open my eyes to the whole thing... And I honestly wish you all the best! Look out for those signs of dips, know your triggers... It's already been said, but I don't know too much more than that.
I was like a spotter for my now ex girlfriend, I knew the signs and her triggers, but all to often would still fall short!
Anyway, I could waffle... You know that as a big family, we're always here to lend an ear. (Or an eye if we're reading!)
terranosaurusdoug
Well-known member
- Joined
- Sep 30, 2014
- Messages
- 5,500
It's crippling lately, that with a heavy dose of anxiety I'm struggling to work.
- Joined
- Dec 25, 2009
- Messages
- 17,416
Sorry to hear about this and even more sorry that you have no family to call on for support, but you do have this family and in some ways can be more beneficial than the natural one, I have not experienced depression myself, but I can see that I could if I worried about workload or the mounting things that need doing at home, but one of the things that helps me is the fact I have an abismal short term memory, I suffer from tinnitus and can understand how it can drive people mad, but I have the ability to turn off from it, occupational therapy is to my mind the best "medicine" for both tinnitus and depression, you have made the first steps and are now discussing it, well done but I also think that work mates are not the ones to be confiding in, best regards Rick
don simon
Well-known member
- Joined
- Oct 17, 2014
- Messages
- 2,214
Talk about it, mate, you're amongst friends here. I've pm'ed you and you gave me the strength to start this thread.
macabethiel
Well-known member
- Joined
- Aug 20, 2008
- Messages
- 4,412
The Black Dog as Spike Milligan called it.
My late Mum was what they used to call a Manic Depressive now called Bipolar Disorder, she refused medical treatment so had a pretty miserable life a lot of the time - that impacted on all of us when we lived at home.
I had one quite serious bout of Depression in 1985/6 that was job triggered it lasted about 8 months in total before a combination of medication & therapy sorted me.
My therapy consisted of Diary keeping where I would write a daily log of my fears when I got up and how the day worked out before I went to bed. Over time I could see my own improvements as I overcame my negative thoughts. Thankfully that has been the only time I needed medical intervention. As you know Depression is not just being a bit low in yourself it is a downward spiral with seemingly no end in sight often with no attributable cause.
My Brother has been on medication for mood swings for about 20 years.
He still takes Seratoin Uptake Inhibitors to manage his brain chemistry as we call it. The medication helps but his big break through came with Cognative Behavioural Therapy (CBT) though it took years for him to find a practitioner in the private sector that was any good.
CBT is quite a complex concept, it is not a one size fits all solution needing a skilled Psychiatrist to identify the causes of depression and come up with a treatment plan that works. I bought a book on the subject a few years ago in the hope of understanding more about it but it was very heavy reading and despite at least half a dozen reads I still find CBT very difficult to comprehend. I cant even begin to describe how it works but it does for many people.
You will find your GP can get you the help you need as well as finding the right medication to sort out the problem with your brain chemistry.
My late Mum was what they used to call a Manic Depressive now called Bipolar Disorder, she refused medical treatment so had a pretty miserable life a lot of the time - that impacted on all of us when we lived at home.
I had one quite serious bout of Depression in 1985/6 that was job triggered it lasted about 8 months in total before a combination of medication & therapy sorted me.
My therapy consisted of Diary keeping where I would write a daily log of my fears when I got up and how the day worked out before I went to bed. Over time I could see my own improvements as I overcame my negative thoughts. Thankfully that has been the only time I needed medical intervention. As you know Depression is not just being a bit low in yourself it is a downward spiral with seemingly no end in sight often with no attributable cause.
My Brother has been on medication for mood swings for about 20 years.
He still takes Seratoin Uptake Inhibitors to manage his brain chemistry as we call it. The medication helps but his big break through came with Cognative Behavioural Therapy (CBT) though it took years for him to find a practitioner in the private sector that was any good.
CBT is quite a complex concept, it is not a one size fits all solution needing a skilled Psychiatrist to identify the causes of depression and come up with a treatment plan that works. I bought a book on the subject a few years ago in the hope of understanding more about it but it was very heavy reading and despite at least half a dozen reads I still find CBT very difficult to comprehend. I cant even begin to describe how it works but it does for many people.
You will find your GP can get you the help you need as well as finding the right medication to sort out the problem with your brain chemistry.
