congratulations rick and maggs

[briggie]

congratulations mate on your victory :thumb2 , if anyone deserves it , you two do , bring on the party :naughty , unfortunately looks like i wont be able to go , but i will be there in spirit , WELL DONE :clap:clap:clap

 

[solarman216]

any time you are down this way call in and we will celebrate it together, Rick

 

[R1cho]

victory? do tell, i love a bit of good news

 

[jims-terrano]

I take it you've wiped the floor with the local planners:clap

I'd come down and help you party but can't afford the fuel:lol

Jim

 

[solarman216]

victory? do tell, i love a bit of good news

yep I have won over the planners that wont to tell you what you do with your property, 4 year rule and today is the day, they are gonna be very upset, if you would like to come to our big party then PM me for date, Rick

 

[clivvy]

well done Rick and Maggs, sounds like a victory worth celebration!:clap

 

[harlowmaverick]

congratulations to both of you!!!! :clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap

so what can you do now that you couldnt or wouldnt do before?

 

[kbekl]

well done Rick and Maggs, a well deserved victory.

am sorry that i wont be able to join in with the celebration, who's the next victims on your battlefield

 

[zippy656]

so what have you got the planners dont like then?

 

[ClanWolf]

Congrats, folks. Thoroughly deserved.

 

[lacroupade]

This a retorical question Rick, But I'm assuming whatever you've built is on residential land as opposed to agricultural? I'm just not clear if/how the 10-year rule applies in such cases.

 

[briggie]

The basis of the 4-year rule is that it stops a planning authority taking planning enforcement action against the alleged unauthorised development if it has been continuously in use for 4 years or more as a seperate dwelling.

 

[lacroupade]

The basis of the 4-year rule is that it stops a planning authority taking planning enforcement action against the alleged unauthorised development if it has been continuously in use for 4 years or more as a seperate dwelling.

and the ten year rule applies to change of use - a situation where agricultural land has been used for something else without PP....so if whatever Ricks done is on residential land then the four year rule is fine, if not, discretion might be required.:augie

 

[(RIP) PLANK]

i don't even know what for but good news is god news - congratulations :thumb2

 

[lacroupade]

i don't even know what for but good news is god news - congratulations :thumb2

Is that a Freudian slip then or what? :lol

 

[(RIP) PLANK]

Is that a Freudian slip then or what? :lol

I do hope not, i like to think my id, or is it ego? or super-ego? is a bit more racy than thoughts of the almighty :augie

 

[solarman216]

OK to clarify, we have lived on agri land for 8 years in a mobile home, and the council have been tying to remove us from that time, but there are ways and means and we are still here, but 4 years ago I learnt of the 4 year rule re converting an existing building to full living accommodation, so converted the stables completing and moving in on the 7 March 4 years ago with all the evidence needed to prove this, so that is why we are celebrating, we have won and lost some battles during this time but have now won the war.

Now to make this easier on me YOU ARE ALL INVITED but you must PM me for the date and address, last thing I want is Gate Crashers, but Swifty will sort any problems he is renowned for it, best regards Rick

 

[lacroupade]

OK to clarify, we have lived on agri land for 8 years in a mobile home, and the council have been tying to remove us from that time, but there are ways and means and we are still here, but 4 years ago I learnt of the 4 year rule re converting an existing building to full living accommodation, so converted the stables completing and moving in on the 7 March 4 years ago with all the evidence needed to prove this, so that is why we are celebrating, we have won and lost some battles during this time but have now won the war.

Now to make this easier on me YOU ARE ALL INVITED but you must PM me for the date and address, last thing I want is Gate Crashers, but Swifty will sort any problems he is renowned for it, best regards Rick

Well I'm sure you've already done it Rick, but if not, check with a specialist solicitor, because my understanding of the process is that its a ten year rule as regards change of use of land (from agri to residential) and while the four year rule may mean you get away with the building staying up, you might not be able to legally occupy it. But I'm sure you've done your homework so well done whatever!:thumb2

 

[solarman216]

Well I'm sure you've already done it Rick, but if not, check with a specialist solicitor, because my understanding of the process is that its a ten year rule as regards change of use of land (from agri to residential) and while the four year rule may mean you get away with the building staying up, you might not be able to legally occupy it. But I'm sure you've done your homework so well done whatever!:thumb2

Yes done my homework very thoroughly 4 year rule applies to converted "existing" buildings , and as "Thurrock" council found to their cost you do not have to have lived in it without interruption for the 4 years , you are entitled to have "holidays", Rick

 

[millie2]

thurrock rick, you havnt moved into lakeside i hope.CONGRATS KEV.