ch4 nhs food

[jace]

dispatches looking at food in hospital,truly disgusting,god help us if we end up in hospital!

 

[4wheel]

NHS Food

I did.Food was ok.Not 5 star but I have had far worse in a so called "restaurant" .If you are hungry when you are in hospital you are not sick.Go home.:lol
Seriously though.I used to run a hospital in a previous life and it is almost impossible to please everyone.When cooking in large quantities it is very difficult to retain flavour and keep the food warm on delivery.I made a point of eating the same food as the patients and very seldom had much to complain about.Not home cooking but preparing food for 300 people with different dietry requirements is not easy - and not the best paid job in the world either.

 

[jace]

the food was contracted out to sodexo,lasagne looked like a curry it was just runny goo on plate!

 

[lacroupade]

I really like being in hospital, seriously!

Only been in twice, once about 18 years ago with a second dose of appendicitis (complications from the first bout that I didn't even know I'd had previously meant it was a week before they realised it was appendicitis and not Crohns - so imagine my state of mind!) and last year when I fell off the ladder in France.

In either country, to lay in the semi-darkness in the middle of the night and know that a nurse was just a shout away if you needed them (and they always were despite what you read) was a wonderful and comforting feeling I just can't explain.

I'll get me coat.....

 

[jace]

white coat?????????? you should have seen the much they served the poor sod ,they even twigged he was the mystery blogger and brought in special foods to sweeten him up!

 

[lacroupade]

white coat?????????? you should have seen the much they served the poor sod ,they even twigged he was the mystery blogger and brought in special foods to sweeten him up!

which they probably gobbed in if he was to get his just reward

 

[d6dph]

I hate the bad press the NHS gets, Yes some parts are not great but on the battle front (Wards and A&E) it is brilliant.

My dad had a very severe heart attack 18 months ago and the level of care he got was superb, Couldn't have asked for more. He was 36hrs away from his body giving up about a month after the original heart attack (due to complications of medicine, he was basically bleeding to death and they couldn't stop it) The nursing staff pulled out all the stops and went by their initiative and managed to stop the bleeding without anesthetic as his heart would stop.

I owe them a huge debt as they saved him.

Sadly most of the bad stuff comes from the suits high up that have no compassion and merely want to save 2p here and there at what ever costs.

 

[jace]

oh this chap made it quite clear his medical/nursing needs were 110%,and like you say the penny pinching managers (see em squirm when he asked if theyd tried food!) trouble is the poor food cancels out all good work by medical staff,mrs aunty,cousins are both a+e nurses both get dogs abuse from pi**ed up w*nkers they dont deserve but still do 110%.
itll be on ch4+1 soon well worth a watch!

 

[(RIP) PLANK]

I hate the bad press the NHS gets, Yes some parts are not great but on the battle front (Wards and A&E) it is brilliant.

My dad had a very severe heart attack 18 months ago and the level of care he got was superb, Couldn't have asked for more. He was 36hrs away from his body giving up about a month after the original heart attack (due to complications of medicine, he was basically bleeding to death and they couldn't stop it) The nursing staff pulled out all the stops and went by their initiative and managed to stop the bleeding without anesthetic as his heart would stop.

I owe them a huge debt as they saved him.

Sadly most of the bad stuff comes from the suits high up that have no compassion and merely want to save 2p here and there at what ever costs.

and waste £1's doing it, you are right, NHS needs reform at a cultural level. it was built on wonky foundations. But the people within it, and the way they do things - all good! just bogged down with too much crap.

 

[(RIP) PLANK]

I really like being in hospital, seriously!

Only been in twice, once about 18 years ago with a second dose of appendicitis (complications from the first bout that I didn't even know I'd had previously meant it was a week before they realised it was appendicitis and not Crohns - so imagine my state of mind!) and last year when I fell off the ladder in France.

In either country, to lay in the semi-darkness in the middle of the night and know that a nurse was just a shout away if you needed them (and they always were despite what you read) was a wonderful and comforting feeling I just can't explain.

I'll get me coat.....

I've always had a bit of a 'phobia' where hospitals are concerned, yours is a very relaxing view of the whole experience. Your bed as an island with helpful people at hand - I like it.

 

[jace]

i think if a minister is given a job say health,they should be forced to work in a+e and other depts to see for themselves how good/bad things are and do refresher courses every yr,bet the defence minister would make sure the troops had correct kit etc

 

[Bat21]

The NHS is an 'old boys' club... if you are in their gang you will be rewarded well :doh

For every 100 NHS staff how many do you think have direct patient contact, i.e. doctors/nurses etc?
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5... yes 5. If you don't believe me, take a look at your local hospital staff car park on a Saturday/Sunday :thumbs

 

[(RIP) PLANK]

The NHS is an 'old boys' club... if you are in their gang you will be rewarded well :doh

For every 100 NHS staff how many do you think have direct patient contact, i.e. doctors/nurses etc?
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5... yes 5. If you don't believe me, take a look at your local hospital staff car park on a Saturday/Sunday :thumbs

funny it's just the opposite at our local golf club car park .... :augie

 

[jace]

you had contact with nhs then bat? i dont see why they need so many managers surely a dr is best qualified to run a hospital,how was it done yrs ago?

 

[4wheel]

NHS

Years ago they had a Medical Superintendant (Doctor) and then the real deal - The Matron ! (As close to God as you could get)She was the boss and the staff new it.No contract staff to do the cleaning or cook the food.Each ward had a Sister in charge and they reported to the Matron as did the kitchen and laundry supervisor.The Matron reported to the Med Super who carried the can.

 

[Sedger]

Bats Stats don't seem right

If you have a look at the spreadsheet on the Office for National Stats web site (link below) you'll see that the percentage of "clinical and medical staff" at health authorities accross the country is between 70% and 80%.

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/STATBASE/ssdataset.asp?vlnk=7780

Granted all these people may not be involved in direct contact with the patient - but they are key to the medical rather than the admin efforts of the NHS.

I'm going through treatment/ops for bowel cancer ta the moment. I have nothing but the highest regard for the treatment I've had. True the food aint great. But that's fairly low on my priorities.

 

[lacroupade]

If you have a look at the spreadsheet on the Office for National Stats web site (link below) you'll see that the percentage of "clinical and medical staff" at health authorities accross the country is between 70% and 80%.

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/STATBASE/ssdataset.asp?vlnk=7780

Granted all these people may not be involved in direct contact with the patient - but they are key to the medical rather than the admin efforts of the NHS.

I'm going through treatment/ops for bowel cancer ta the moment. I have nothing but the highest regard for the treatment I've had. True the food aint great. But that's fairly low on my priorities.

Sedger - all my best wishes for a speedy treatment and recovery.:thumb2

Like you say, makes the food thing look a bit irrelevant.

 

[Sedger]

Thanks...

...... next week is pretty crucial. Good omen - just got the Y61 welded up and thru the MOT.

 

[lacroupade]

...... next week is pretty crucial. Good omen - just got the Y61 welded up and thru the MOT.

FFS I hope they aren't TIG welding you! :lol

Good news though!!:thumb2

 

[tintin]

dispatches looking at food in hospital,truly disgusting,god help us if we end up in hospital!

Had to add my 10p worth to this thread, what you saw on the program is what happens when you contract out your catering to private companies, they'll come in with a quote to supply meals, take a large chunk of it as profit and use the rest of it to source the food for the patients, as cheaply as possible.
The food is delivered frozen, defrosted in a "kitchen" plated up cold and then reheated at ward level in a meal trolley.
I've been a chef at a hospital in the north east for 21 year this year and we are the only hospital in the area who still cooks food fresh on the day, so our lasagne starts off at 7am as raw minced beef, i would say 98% of our food is freshly cooked on the premises 365 days a year, we are cooking about 900+ patients 3 times a day and about 1100 staff and visitor meals, on top of buffets etc. And strangly i still enjoy turning up every day:thumbs