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Paul

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Put new pads on today as the old ones where down to the metal,had to get hold of aset of sliders as 2 where sized solid, now the thing is the pedal is hard without the engine running but with it running the pedal goe's almost to the floor, also if we press the pedal afew times the warning light comes on, looked at the vane pump on the back of the alt seems o.k.the pipe which goe's to the warning switch was full of oil? anyone on here known/seen this?

Thanks
Paul.
 
my warning lamp comes on if i pump the pedal a few times rapid
when engine is idling , but never at any other time, so not worried about that.
find a quiet road and apply brakes a few times (dont overheat them)
and pads will start to bed in and pedal will improve,are the discs scored/corroded as this will extend the bedding in process
hope this helps :smile:
ssteve
 
Have you checked the servo at all?

I had a similar problem once on a Volvo and needed a new master cylinder.
 
Yep sounds like master cylinder to me too Andy. That probably wasn't oil it was probably brake fluid.
 
smell it or rub it between fingers you will soon know which "oil"it is :roll:
ssteve
 
Hi Paul332
When you changed your pads did all the floating bolts( not sure of the technical name) move in and out on the caliper, I had just the same problem and found one off my bolts seized solid. Do a search on the forum for brakes
 
ssteve said:
smell it or rub it between fingers you will soon know which "oil"it is :roll:
ssteve
Did that it's oil smells great! :(

Was thinking the master cyl, on a side note you can hear a hissing noise when you press the pedal afew times at the servo, going to give her a run tomorrow to try and let the pads bed in abit.
 
Paul332 said:
Put new pads on today as the old ones where down to the metal,had to get hold of aset of sliders as 2 where sized solid, now the thing is the pedal is hard without the engine running but with it running the pedal goe's almost to the floor, also if we press the pedal afew times the warning light comes on, looked at the vane pump on the back of the alt seems o.k.the pipe which goe's to the warning switch was full of oil? anyone on here known/seen this?

Thanks
Paul.
The sliders are an issue, I stripped mine down and applied copper grease. New pads on old discs take a while to bed in, as said in previous threads, brake lightly then release, do this many time on a journey if safe to do so, but don't overheat the discs., they will get better. Avoid excessive braking with new pads as this WILL score the disc, as it will create hot spots on the few points of contact.
When fitting new discs, always fit new pads.
If you brake several times (4-5) you will loose the vacuum in the servo.
Since you are probably only ticking over, the vacuum pump on a diesel, which is on the back of the alternator, is only reving slowly.
The brake pedal is hard when there is no servo vacuum, and when you start the engine the pedal does go down a long way, however once your pads are bedded in this will improve, BUT also get the slack out of the rear brake adjusters, first at the rear wheels then on the hand brake adjuster underneath the centre console. (behind handbrake) There is a download on this, my handbrake starts to come on now on the 3rd click, and the brakes have never been this good before.
Mine is the non abs version and have never really been that great from new, the front always pick up before the rear, as the weight always transfers to the front. Not had the rear brakes lock on their own yet.
I fitted Rossini discs (grooved and drilled) to reduce fade. this has made an improvement. Hope this helps, best regards, Rustic
 
Thanx all for the help!
Took her for a run today and took about an hour of slow braking to get them something like.

Can let Christine drive her now..(Don't know yet if thats good or bad :roll: )

Paul.
 
servo brakes

Put new pads on today as the old ones where down to the metal,had to get hold of aset of sliders as 2 where sized solid, now the thing is the pedal is hard without the engine running but with it running the pedal goe's almost to the floor, also if we press the pedal afew times the warning light comes on, looked at the vane pump on the back of the alt seems o.k.the pipe which goe's to the warning switch was full of oil? anyone on here known/seen this?

Thanks
Paul.

hi i had this problem it turned out the vac pump was shot letting oil through to servo thus causing warning light on when pump the pedal servo 888.oo vac pump 375.oo from nissan 50 quid from ebay for complete alt and vac pump 20 quid for servo from breakers and about 4 hours work and lots of brake cleaner to clean the pipes
 

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