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I want to change my front pads as they are getting a bit low, I was looking at EBC Ultimax pads, I don't need anything to sporty, just wondering what the thoughts are on these or should I be looking at others.
They are ebay for £26 a set.
I also want to grease the calliper moving parts, is this quite straight forward or are there any pit falls to be aware of and is it easy to get the pistons back in.
Thanks
 
I want to change my front pads as they are getting a bit low, I was looking at EBC Ultimax pads, I don't need anything to sporty, just wondering what the thoughts are on these or should I be looking at others.
They are ebay for £26 a set.
I also want to grease the calliper moving parts, is this quite straight forward or are there any pit falls to be aware of and is it easy to get the pistons back in.
Thanks

Ebc pads are well worth the extra money i put ebc discs and pads on my fourtrak cost £100 for full set disc and pads
 
Thanks, The discs look OK, so I will just get pads for now.
Are the callipers easy to work on, I want to grease the moving parts, is there anything I should watch out for.
 
Your slider pins might be seized up which can be a pain.
If they're not, get some coppa grease on them smartish and keep an eye on them.
other than that, they're pretty straight forward.
 
Your slider pins might be seized up which can be a pain.
If they're not, get some coppa grease on them smartish and keep an eye on them.
other than that, they're pretty straight forward.
Cheers, I hope alls well,
Is it easy to get the pistons back in, do they just push or is there a tool needed.
 
Thanks, The discs look OK, so I will just get pads for now.
Are the callipers easy to work on, I want to grease the moving parts, is there anything I should watch out for.

To push the pistons back in, use a block of wood on the piston, and a G clamp.

CAUTION.....
As you are doing this, the level in the reservoir is rapidly back filling, and can overflow, the fluid will strip paint.
So check the level, and carefully remove any excess fluid. A turkey baster is quite good, but the fluid can damage some plastics too.

Have a water spray handy, any spillages, wash off immediately, DO NOT wipe off with a cloth, or it will remove the paint.:eek::eek:

Use copper grease sparingly, on the contact face of the pistons, on the metal to metal contact points on the extremes of the pads. On the back of the pads and the anti squeal shims, if fitted, sometimes these rust and are not replaced.

While you are at it, clean and grease the sliders, on the calipers.

DO NOT contaminate the disc or pad with grease. Use some brake cleaner to degrease the disc, wear rubber gloves and change them to new when doing the final assembly.

Lightly apply the brakes when fully assembled, so you know they are seated correctly.

I always burnish the pads when I fit new, as the brakes are really cr*p until they bed in.

So what is burnishing? This is what I do, it works for me.
I choose two roundabouts about half a mile apart, drive to 30 mph, and use the brakes lightly to slow down at each round about, do this a dozen times.

What I find, it helps to bed in the pads to the disc without over heating, and also helps to prevent scoring of the disc if heavy braking is done before the pads are bedded in.

After a few cycles, stop, check the discs that they are not too hot, and increase the braking force as you bed them in.

Hope it helps,

Best regards,

Rustic

For the whole of the 18 years I have owned my Maverick, it has always passed the MOT first time.:doh
 
Thanks Rustic, very helpful and well described, I was going to ask about burnishing,so glad you explained :thumb2
 
Just one thing, reading what you have written, you are not actually planing on taking the pistons out of the calliper are you? A bit of grease round the exposed bit is fine, but taking it right out will most likely damage the seal, and then need that replacing as well.
 
Just one thing, reading what you have written, you are not actually planing on taking the pistons out of the calliper are you? A bit of grease round the exposed bit is fine, but taking it right out will most likely damage the seal, and then need that replacing as well.

NO!!, god no, I won't be doing that :lol:lol
 
OK, I had another look at the front brakes and decided to buy new discs as well, I have gone for Mintex discs and EBC pads £68 all in
 
OK, I had another look at the front brakes and decided to buy new discs as well, I have gone for Mintex discs and EBC pads £68 all in

That is a great price for 2 discs and 4 pads.

The disc can take up to 2 hours per side if it's the first time you have done it, remove the auto hubs, brake rings, wheel bearings, as well as tying up the brake callipers out of the way.

Adjusting the wheel bearings can take some time if you follow the book, as you need a preload on the bearings, but it is often enough to just tighten them so all play has gone.

Grease the bearings whilst you are at it.

TIP...
Don't let the drive shaft push back during all this action, as it is a pig of a job to get it back in, unless you have arms like Popeye.
It does go back in after some pushing from the back, but better not to let it go back. You'll find out when you try to get the circlip on the end of the shaft afterwards.:doh
 
Thanks Rustic, yeah, a full set off ebay from the same seller, he also has EBC discs at £100 a set, but I bought Mintex at £46.53 a set and EBC pads for £21.57, this is the seller click4carparts.I will do my brakes next weekend now.

So I don't want to push the drive shaft in if I can help it, but if they do go in, is it just a case of pulling it back out, I do have a 3 leg puller if that helps.
Do they push in quite easy or do you really have to knock them and do they move into the diff :confused:
 
Thanks Rustic, yeah, a full set off ebay from the same seller, he also has EBC discs at £100 a set, but I bought Mintex at £46.53 a set and EBC pads for £21.57, this is the seller click4carparts.I will do my brakes next weekend now.

So I don't want to push the drive shaft in if I can help it, but if they do go in, is it just a case of pulling it back out, I do have a 3 leg puller if that helps.
Do they push in quite easy or do you really have to knock them and do they move into the diff :confused:

No need to knock them, or pull them, they just need wiggling and pushing, which when you are the wrong side of the shaft, it takes some effort at arms length, but dooable, sometimes they go in first time, :thumb2
I guess the seal has to line up with the shoulder of the shaft.
Like I say, best not to let them go back, but not the end of the world, now you know what to do. It's just when it happened to me the first time, you wonder what has gone wrong...:doh
 
Thanks again for the advice, I did notice a bit of movement in my wheel, top to bottom, when I do the bearings back up, do I just tighten them until there's no play then.
 
Thanks again for the advice, I did notice a bit of movement in my wheel, top to bottom, when I do the bearings back up, do I just tighten them until there's no play then.

That worked for me prior to my MOT last week.

Did I tell you......:doh
I won't mention it again...

Honest.:surrender
 
Fitted the new discs and EBC pads today, I was surprised how easy it was to do the job, everything went well, all the bolts undid, the slides were free and well greased, re-packed the bearing and most of the play has gone, I even gave the callipers a coat of black paint. :thumb2
 
Thanks Rustic, yeah, a full set off ebay from the same seller, he also has EBC discs at £100 a set, but I bought Mintex at £46.53 a set and EBC pads for £21.57, this is the seller click4carparts.I will do my brakes next weekend now.

So I don't want to push the drive shaft in if I can help it, but if they do go in, is it just a case of pulling it back out, I do have a 3 leg puller if that helps.
Do they push in quite easy or do you really have to knock them and do they move into the diff :confused:

Am I right in thinking these are the pads;
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-MAVE...+Make:Ford|Model:Maverick&hash=item4d0681e4db

And these are the discs I need;
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-MAVE...+Make:Ford|Model:Maverick&hash=item35c0ec3eb2

I need to do mine as they are now squealing and grinding

Another question, How do I bleed the brake system
 
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They look like the right ones, same place I bought mine, best to message or call the seller and ask if they are for your vehicle.
If your pads are almost down to the metal, your pistons will be extended and will need to be forced back in, I did this using a pry bar against the discs and calliper (before removal) remember to remove the brake fluid cap and keep an eye on the level, it rises quickly when the pistons are pushed back in, I used a sucker to lower the level and had to do this quite a few times while the pistons moved in. Rustic, your info was spot on :thumb2

To bleed the system you will need to make sure all the bleed nipples will free off, a lot of the time they seize or snap off and can be a right pain to remove.
On most vehicle you start at the furthest wheel away from the brake reservoir and work back.
 

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