bit pee'd off!

[harlowmaverick]

just went to try a new green lane to me to find that some rotter has put a large concrete block in the way as to stop 4x4 vehicles.
can someone tell me if there is a place that i can complain to?
the track is TL 4850 087 on trialwise

 

[jims-terrano]

I would start with your local council rights of way officer.

Jim T

 

[Adz]

Wake a link in M8 :thumbs

 

[harlowmaverick]

will do

 

[Terranosaurus]

just went to try a new green lane to me to find that some rotter has put a large concrete block in the way as to stop 4x4 vehicles.
can someone tell me if there is a place that i can complain to?
the track is TL 4850 087 on trialwise

That isn't a trailwise UID - do you mean TL4808-01

 

[zippy656]

If you know the owner of the land around it, ask them too. that block must belong to some one, if not the council.



99% of the lanes get blocked off around here,, Wiltshire.

as im between stonehenge and Avbury. so the long haird lot move in a lot..

 

[Terranosaurus]

If you know the owner of the land around it, ask them too. that block must belong to some one, if not the council.

Its usually one or the other, the landowner more usually than the council. |Councils tend to erect gates and put up signs etc - blocks of concrete are usually landowners though of course they will deny it as they are actually committing an offence putting them there. As has been said if its a byway contact local rights of way dept - most will ave an enforcement officer but either way have to do something about it.

 

[Adz]

Where would you stand if you ramped the said concrete block if possible & drove over it.?
Or moved it.?
Just curious.?

 

[zippy656]

thinking about it, the land owners around here use old farm kit.. just dump it in the way

 

[harlowmaverick]

i will get onto the council tommorow, and as for trying to move it!!! forget it its huge!!! you would need a crane!!!!!!!!

 

[harlowmaverick]

yep thats the one terranosaurus!
cheers for that

 

[Adz]

i will get onto the council tommorow, and as for trying to move it!!! forget it its huge!!! you would need a crane!!!!!!!!

I could use 1 of the lorrys from work with a HIAB :sly :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

 

[Terranosaurus]

Where would you stand if you ramped the said concrete block if possible & drove over it.?
Or moved it.?
Just curious.?

Provided there is no official closure of the lane - you need to check first really, thoug it should be signed if there is - then you are perfectly entitled to abate the obstruction, round it, over it or move it - up to you really - but don't do anymore than is reasonable - as to what reasonable is, only a court can decide.

 

[harlowmaverick]

theres no closure sign, there is a sign saying byway on an open gate that has a padlock attatched with a chain, i guess this didnt work by the local land owner lolol.
i will know more tommorow after speaking to the council

 

[Adz]

Provided there is no official closure of the lane - you need to check first really, thoug it should be signed if there is - then you are perfectly entitled to abate the obstruction, round it, over it or move it - up to you really - but don't do anymore than is reasonable - as to what reasonable is, only a court can decide.

Have you ever known of this to be done
I'm really curious now
How funny would it be to move the block to the farmers yard :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

 

[harlowmaverick]

could be interesting lol

 

[tezzer]

he would proberly shoot you for tresspassing.:lol

 

[Adz]

he would proberly shoot you for tresspassing.:lol

Not if he was under the block :lol :lol :lol

 

[Terranosaurus]

Have you ever known of this to be done
I'm really curious now
How funny would it be to move the block to the farmers yard :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Yes I have done it myself - both move the block/tree and drive around. You can only legally move any obstruction far enough so that you an get past.

Theres a couple I know of locally - just working on the letter to ROW dept at the moment about them. And if they don't get remove by the next time I go that way they may end up in the bottom of the ditch next to the lane - be a bit more difficult for him to put em back from there - on going problem and with the same blocks, I ahave photos to prove, ROW get em moved and they just returm - runs back 2yrs + that I know and I'm not local to it.

 

[Adz]

Yes I have done it myself - both move the block/tree and drive around. You can only legally move any obstruction far enough so that you an get past.

Theres a couple I know of locally - just working on the letter to ROW dept at the moment about them. And if they don't get remove by the next time I go that way they may end up in the bottom of the ditch next to the lane - be a bit more difficult for him to put em back from there - on going problem and with the same blocks, I ahave photos to prove, ROW get em moved and they just return - runs back 2yrs + that I know and I'm not local to it.

:augie Well if you need a lorry & a HIAB :augie

So can the person or people blocking the rights of way be prosecuted