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Bloody hell briggie, have you won the lottery recently ? :augie:lol
Diesel £1.45 and more round here, veggy oil £0.83, erm let me just work that out, hang on, erm , carry one, less the finger on my left foot , one for his knob and er, yep I make that 62p a litre cheaper :D
OR shall we say £37 quid saving per fill up , assuming a piddly little 60 litre tank :rolleyes: Mine's a 90 litre tank, guess what I run my truck on :sly

cheapest i can find veg oil around here is £1.19 a litre , can never find any of the cheap stuff left ..... diesel is £140.9
 
So how much do you put in, I was doing a google search, and generally people who seem to use veg oil seem to say not to go over a third veg to 2 thirds diesel, and not to do it in the winter. what do you do?

The Terrano is shall we say "Old Skool" tech at best :lol and so will run on peanut butter, probably :augie and we 4x4 types are well hard :sly Unlike those light weight 'tinternet types on gogle :lol
I'm lucky and run mine on neat bio, but I used to run on veggy when it was cheap. Admittedly in the winter I used to run about 25% diesel , but only for the coldest months.
There's been loads of threads on this and you need to read up on this site, not google. Essentially for a few quid you could make your own fuel warmer with a glow plug and then run neat veg all winter easy :D
 
cheapest i can find veg oil around here is £1.19 a litre , can never find any of the cheap stuff left ..... diesel is £140.9

You can get it from Asda according to this thread and they deliver :D
Kerching :thumbs
 
You can get it from Asda according to this thread and they deliver :D
Kerching :thumbs

And my missis works for walmart so get 10%discount aswell kerching guess where im going after ive finished nights
If only i could get this dye out of this gas oil ive just filled my 360 up with
 
So how much do you put in, I was doing a google search, and generally people who seem to use veg oil seem to say not to go over a third veg to 2 thirds diesel, and not to do it in the winter. what do you do?

As it gets cold the cooking oil wll get thicker causing the pump to pull harder to get it to the engine. So we mix some diesel with it, how much depends on your pump. If your unsure go 50/50 and see how it runs, if all ok and no problem you can tray 60/40 and so on till your happy with how it runs.:naughty

As it gets really cold you need to be around 80/20 maximum (80 cooking oil/20 diesel,Well i do with my engine) the only thing you will see is its getting hard to start up if the mix is out a bit, if this happens then add some more diesel (or 1 gallon of petrol) to thin it back down then run it for a few mile to recharge the fuel line.:thumbs

You dont need any mods on the T2, just pour it in the tank and away you go.
The only thing you will have to do is change the fuel filter more often, but at about £5 each once every 3 or 4 month on a saving of around £40 per fill up, its peanuts.:doh

As you have seen the google search will bring alsorts up, we are only talking about the T2, this mix may not work with other cars or trucks and they are set up differently. At the moment i have my Maverick and my T2 (As its the same engine) both on 100% cooking oil right now. Its also good for dropping the CO2 for the MOT if its a bit high.
 
Thanks for the heads up :D, I've just been and cleared our local Asda out :D

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They had no Rapeseed though but the Veg was on the same offer :thumb2
 
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KEEP AWAY FROM THE SUTTON IN ASHFIELD STORE......Thats mine! :sly
 
You got a post code for that ;)

NG17. Iv just called on way home from work and picked another 10 bottles up, the shelves are full right now. Mind you it pissed the woman off that was restocking it at the time.:lol
 
cheapest i can find veg oil around here is £1.19 a litre , can never find any of the cheap stuff left ..... diesel is £140.9

All ASDA stores are the same price, aint you got one your way :confused:
 
NG17. Iv just called on way home from work and picked another 10 bottles up, the shelves are full right now. Mind you it pissed the woman off that was restocking it at the time.:lol

Haha I was only joking mate I've got plenty now, yeah the woman who was stocking the shelves wasn't best pleased with me and my sister actually because as she was plonking it on the shelf I was taking it straight off and putting it into the trolley lol

In the end she just told me to take what I need off the pallets
 
Thanks for the heads up :D, I've just been and cleared our local Asda out :D

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They had no Rapeseed though but the Veg was on the same offer :thumb2

i see you went too tesco too :lol
 
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Last trip to Asda, the shelf stocker gave me a couple of cardboard boxes that she was about to unpack onto the shelves, I was saving her the job!
 
Right, for those veggie virgins out there, a couple of points to be aware of before you leap right in.

Firstly, as makeitfit said, no modifications are needed on a 2.7 T2 for it to run, and run well, on straight veg oil from the slagmarkets, the 3.0 will NOT run well and WILL damage the engine as it's a very different beast.

Veg oil is more viscous than diesel by quite a bit at any given temperature so it will add extra stress to the pump, the 2.7 TD and TDi's are either fitted with a Bosche or Zexel copy of the Bosche pump that has been well abused by other 'veg burners' in other motors and it has a good reputation for taking the strain without much issue.

That said, in sunny Scotland, as with many things, veg is thicker cos it's colder up here. I've been told by others that have done far more study into this than me, that roughly 20% petrol added to veg oil will bring it into near diesel viscosity depending on the type of oil used. Rapeseed (asda/tesco 'veg oil' is usually rapeseed if you look carefully at the packaging) is the best, followed by sunflower. Soya tends to be thicker and what is cheapest in Booker, et al. Best test is grab a few jam jars and mix up a variety of petrol/veg cocktails (VERY carefully) outside and then leave these out over night, those with less petrol in will go cloudy faster.

Diesel does thin the oil too, but diesel is already thicker than petrol and it freezes quicker than petrol. It's also dearer!

Burning veg also has it's risks to the engine, first one is that the crud in the tank from years of diesel will possibly dissolve in the veg oil and clog up the fuel filter and the banjo filter is a metal gauze which can block with veg fats too.

Your pump is under more strain with veg unless it's well diluted so there is a risk of long term pump damage, for me, considering the savings made, it's worth this risk.

If you only do lots of short journeys on neat veg then there is a small risk of unburnt veg oil building up on the rings, known as ring gumming. If this happens, there is a risk of veg oil blowing past the rings and mixing with the engine oil. Engine oil and veg oil make a jelly that looks like really nasty Vaseline and will not lube the engine at all. Regular veg burners tend to change there engine oil a bit more frequently to minimise this risk, sometimes as often as every 3000 miles.

You MUST keep a log of how much veg you have put in the tank as you are only allowed to use 2,500L in any one rolling 12 month period without paying road fuel duty. HMRC have the right to demand this proof.

Nae sayers will blame any failure on the use of veg in your car as well; "My prop shaft failed cos I was running veg" or "Your CV joints have worn faster due to veg oil" or the likes. It's amazing what some people will try and blame on it!

If you are really worried, either learn to safely make bio (Do NOT buy a bio plant from the web without checking a decent forum on it's safety, there are loads of dangerous plants getting sold out there) or buy bio diesel in bulk to get a good price. Pump bio diesel is quite pricey these days as it gets fuel duty and VAT on it too, but still usually cheaper than normal diesel. And for those that say they've never used bio diesel, they are wrong as ALL pump diesel must contain at least 2.5% by law these days with some having up to 7%.

There, I think I've covered the worst of it, I don't doubt others will add to this.
 
Oh, forgot to say, LF, the only piece of equipment you'll need is a funnel to get the stuff in, Tesco sell one for a quid or so, but pop the filter out of it as that slows the flow a bit.
 
Right, for those veggie virgins out there, a couple of points to be aware of before you leap right in.

Firstly, as makeitfit said, no modifications are needed on a 2.7 T2 for it to run, and run well, on straight veg oil from the slagmarkets, the 3.0 will NOT run well and WILL damage the engine as it's a very different beast.

Veg oil is more viscous than diesel by quite a bit at any given temperature so it will add extra stress to the pump, the 2.7 TD and TDi's are either fitted with a Bosche or Zexel copy of the Bosche pump that has been well abused by other 'veg burners' in other motors and it has a good reputation for taking the strain without much issue.

That said, in sunny Scotland, as with many things, veg is thicker cos it's colder up here. I've been told by others that have done far more study into this than me, that roughly 20% petrol added to veg oil will bring it into near diesel viscosity depending on the type of oil used. Rapeseed (asda/tesco 'veg oil' is usually rapeseed if you look carefully at the packaging) is the best, followed by sunflower. Soya tends to be thicker and what is cheapest in Booker, et al. Best test is grab a few jam jars and mix up a variety of petrol/veg cocktails (VERY carefully) outside and then leave these out over night, those with less petrol in will go cloudy faster.

Diesel does thin the oil too, but diesel is already thicker than petrol and it freezes quicker than petrol. It's also dearer!

Burning veg also has it's risks to the engine, first one is that the crud in the tank from years of diesel will possibly dissolve in the veg oil and clog up the fuel filter and the banjo filter is a metal gauze which can block with veg fats too.

Your pump is under more strain with veg unless it's well diluted so there is a risk of long term pump damage, for me, considering the savings made, it's worth this risk.

If you only do lots of short journeys on neat veg then there is a small risk of unburnt veg oil building up on the rings, known as ring gumming. If this happens, there is a risk of veg oil blowing past the rings and mixing with the engine oil. Engine oil and veg oil make a jelly that looks like really nasty Vaseline and will not lube the engine at all. Regular veg burners tend to change there engine oil a bit more frequently to minimise this risk, sometimes as often as every 3000 miles.

You MUST keep a log of how much veg you have put in the tank as you are only allowed to use 2,500L in any one rolling 12 month period without paying road fuel duty. HMRC have the right to demand this proof.

Nae sayers will blame any failure on the use of veg in your car as well; "My prop shaft failed cos I was running veg" or "Your CV joints have worn faster due to veg oil" or the likes. It's amazing what some people will try and blame on it!

If you are really worried, either learn to safely make bio (Do NOT buy a bio plant from the web without checking a decent forum on it's safety, there are loads of dangerous plants getting sold out there) or buy bio diesel in bulk to get a good price. Pump bio diesel is quite pricey these days as it gets fuel duty and VAT on it too, but still usually cheaper than normal diesel. And for those that say they've never used bio diesel, they are wrong as ALL pump diesel must contain at least 2.5% by law these days with some having up to 7%.

There, I think I've covered the worst of it, I don't doubt others will add to this.

Thank you so much for taking the time to write this, it was very useful...

I so want to try it, but I think you may have unwittingly put me off.

I think my car is blowing past the pistons, as I have previously posted about the amount of oil being pushed through the crank case breather system, so the chances of it mixing with the engine oil are very high. I am using about 10 litres of engine oil over a 450 mile tank of fuel at the moment, so about 1liter per 45miles. This depends on the drive though, and some journeys use a lot more, others less. The car is running fine though, so apart from the burnt oil smell every time I open the sun roof or windows, I can still use it day in day out, just regularly checking the engine oil. I guess running Veg oil is best to be left for a while, as I really can't afford to get another car at the moment.
 
I would say, make sure you car runs well on diesel before going down the veg route as it will only complicate any trouble shooting and by the sounds of it, I'd see about getting that fixed as engine oil ain't that cheap either!
 
A good write up arcascomp, that should help the people out who have never use it before.

I must admit, i have not mixed petrol in with it before, but i think were in for a bad winter this year so i will be doing at some point.:cool:
 

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