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ill have to keep an eye for him next time i go to swindon..

give S521 SNM a club card.. see if i can get him to join! LOL
 
whats he on about?? LOADS of room there, jesus. if he was in the cycle lane lines, he'd have had less room than that Terrano gave him, so I dont know who he thinks he is, tosser!
 
Road use should be limited to 4x4's, Vans and LGV's.:sly

Cars and Bikes need to be taxed off the road. :thumbs

The bike should give way to the vehicle paying to use it
 
You are all forgetting God's on his/her side..

Why else wouldn't they not have to pay any road tax, insurance or mot.. :hmh
 
Road use should be limited to 4x4's, Vans and LGV's.:sly

Cars and Bikes need to be taxed off the road. :thumbs

The bike should give way to the vehicle paying to use it

..and horses...they belong in a field FGS! :doh
 
Horses

At least cycles don't shi* in the road! Nothing worse than spending the morning scrubbing up the old motor to find a pile of fresh "horse manure" right in the road as you go for a run. I think horses and cyclists should share the same path.They deserve each other.:augie
 
Aha. I'm a cyclist as well as a 4x4 driver.

Tax. Vehicle Excise Duty goes into general taxation (along with income tax and other forms of tax) roads are paid for out of general taxation. So car drivers are not "paying" for any "right" to be on the road. In fact, if that cyclist earns more than you (and lots of cyclists are professional people), he or she is paying more income tax, so contributing a higher proportion to road building and repairs. Using that argument, a cyclist could have more "right" to be there than a car driver.

Cycle lanes. We don't have to use them. In fact if we are intending to travel quickly the Highway Code recommends that we do NOT use them.

Overtaking a cyclist. Cars are supposed to give cyclists as much room as if they were overtaking another car. Not squeeze desperately past, cut in because something is coming the other way, and then brake sharply because there is a line of traffic anyway ...

Roundabouts. After one-way systems, roundabouts present a huge challenge to a cyclist. We can't go nearly as fast as cars, yet, we still have to change lanes to get to the exit we want. We can't go on the pavement because car drivers will tut and shake their heads, so into the road we go... and do you think any cars will slow down to let us manoeuvre? Not on your life. So when you think we are "riding in the middle of the road", actually we are changing lanes. If I stayed in the nearside lane on every roundabout I would only ever be able to turn left.

Oh, and I stop at red lights. Even pedestrian ones when there is no-one crossing and no-one waiting to cross.
 
Aha. I'm a cyclist as well as a 4x4 driver.

Tax. Vehicle Excise Duty goes into general taxation (along with income tax and other forms of tax) roads are paid for out of general taxation. So car drivers are not "paying" for any "right" to be on the road. In fact, if that cyclist earns more than you (and lots of cyclists are professional people), he or she is paying more income tax, so contributing a higher proportion to road building and repairs. Using that argument, a cyclist could have more "right" to be there than a car driver.

Cycle lanes. We don't have to use them. In fact if we are intending to travel quickly the Highway Code recommends that we do NOT use them.

Overtaking a cyclist. Cars are supposed to give cyclists as much room as if they were overtaking another car. Not squeeze desperately past, cut in because something is coming the other way, and then brake sharply because there is a line of traffic anyway ...

Roundabouts. After one-way systems, roundabouts present a huge challenge to a cyclist. We can't go nearly as fast as cars, yet, we still have to change lanes to get to the exit we want. We can't go on the pavement because car drivers will tut and shake their heads, so into the road we go... and do you think any cars will slow down to let us manoeuvre? Not on your life. So when you think we are "riding in the middle of the road", actually we are changing lanes. If I stayed in the nearside lane on every roundabout I would only ever be able to turn left.

Oh, and I stop at red lights. Even pedestrian ones when there is no-one crossing and no-one waiting to cross.

Nice one. Now I feel ashamed for being afraid to say it. I got told I was wrong and provided with a lot of statistics about my stance on speeding last time I went against popular opinion :)

Alan
 
Aha. I'm a cyclist as well as a 4x4 driver.

Tax. Vehicle Excise Duty goes into general taxation (along with income tax and other forms of tax) roads are paid for out of general taxation. So car drivers are not "paying" for any "right" to be on the road. In fact, if that cyclist earns more than you (and lots of cyclists are professional people), he or she is paying more income tax, so contributing a higher proportion to road building and repairs. Using that argument, a cyclist could have more "right" to be there than a car driver.

Cycle lanes. We don't have to use them. In fact if we are intending to travel quickly the Highway Code recommends that we do NOT use them.

Overtaking a cyclist. Cars are supposed to give cyclists as much room as if they were overtaking another car. Not squeeze desperately past, cut in because something is coming the other way, and then brake sharply because there is a line of traffic anyway ...

Roundabouts. After one-way systems, roundabouts present a huge challenge to a cyclist. We can't go nearly as fast as cars, yet, we still have to change lanes to get to the exit we want. We can't go on the pavement because car drivers will tut and shake their heads, so into the road we go... and do you think any cars will slow down to let us manoeuvre? Not on your life. So when you think we are "riding in the middle of the road", actually we are changing lanes. If I stayed in the nearside lane on every roundabout I would only ever be able to turn left.

Oh, and I stop at red lights. Even pedestrian ones when there is no-one crossing and no-one waiting to cross.

and pretty much the same argument applies to horses, if it weren't for horse drawn transport we would have no road system (or green lanes) in the first place :augie
 
dont horses have to have ins to go on roads? should be made to clean the shite up though,or prostituted like buses an vans that spill derv onto roads serface!
 
Here, here.

No such thing as Road Tax - it was abolished in the 30's. Drivers pay Vehicle Excise Duty - that's a tax on the vehicle, not on the road.

Roads of national importance (Motorways, etc) are funded by central government - so every tax payer pays for these, not just those who use them.

Local roads are paid for by local councils, so their paid for by council tax. So a cyclist with a bigger council tax bill than you pays more towards the roads than you do !

All that tax (and the tax on the tax) you pay on fuel? That goes into the general pot - it's not reserved for the roads.
 
Here, here.

No such thing as Road Tax - it was abolished in the 30's. Drivers pay Vehicle Excise Duty - that's a tax on the vehicle, not on the road.

Roads of national importance (Motorways, etc) are funded by central government - so every tax payer pays for these, not just those who use them.

Local roads are paid for by local councils, so their paid for by council tax. So a cyclist with a bigger council tax bill than you pays more towards the roads than you do !

All that tax (and the tax on the tax) you pay on fuel? That goes into the general pot - it's not reserved for the roads.
Not every vehicle using our roads pay's tax on fuel. :sly
And I don't mean using veg oil.. :naughty
 
dont horses have to have ins to go on roads? should be made to clean the shite up though,or prostituted like buses an vans that spill derv onto roads serface!

without starting another 'debate' there is plenty of 'sh*t' coming out of the back of a bus (or any other vehicle) that never gets cleaned up, hence the Co2 tax we all pay :doh
 
ha ha i meant the leakage from lorries,busses fuel wise creates slippy road conditions and is an offence,the shite comming outve back of horse does same so should be illegal (probibly is if u can atribute your accident to it!),co2 good for us global warming etc, i mean look at how hot its been lately!
 
If you drive a carriage horse in a town then you have to have a bag mounted to the carriage to collect the poo.

At least you can see horse shite on the roads and try to miss it - split diesel is invisible and deadly.
 

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