anti roll bars

[PARASOURCE]

can anyone tell me does removing them front or back make much difference on or off road..is it worth it....???

 

[zippy656]

sure. very much, so. but pigs to drive on road.


talk as makeitfit.. and i think extream4x4

 

[thor]

surely this would make your insurance invalid..

 

[makeitfit]

Insurance not invalid aslong as you tell them, I know I have
They make a big difference off road for sure but you'll have your balls in your mouth for a bit on road :lol
It's quite funny really 'cause the old girl leans over something awful but no loss of grip except for the passengers who seem to get white knuckles hanging on to anything they can:sly

 

[lacroupade]

can anyone tell me does removing them front or back make much difference on or off road..is it worth it....???

As Pete says, not an issue if nobody spots the fact but:

1. They are there for a very good reason - the name is a good clue.
2. Removal WILL invalidate insurance....its not like adding alloy wheels, you are making the vehicle dangerous on road. (Can you imagine Direct Line when you say, "I'd like a quote for degrading my vehicles handling please?...")
3. Immediate MoT failure as well if spotted.
4. As Daved will confirm, if you were ever involved in a serious RTA, even if not your fault, you would be up Sh1t Creek and a no-blame could become all your fault.

Fronts especially are potentially lethal, as anyone whos ARB droplinks have gone will testify.....(so yes, anyone whose truck rolls like a pissed newt in corners should check those links are all in one piece....typically they wear and your balls pop out)..

So offroad, no issues, helps to improve performance in the rough....but on-road? I have to say (even though friends do it) its for chumps. :thumbs

 

[PARASOURCE]

thanks everyone !

 

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

id add that on front due to ifs, not going to gain that much travel, versus roll
will gain rest of time on road. AND on rear you've got the LSD so frankly even
if back wheel doesnt droop as much as could the diff will pick up.

Now if could realease just off road, and not forgetting green lanes are legal
roads for cover. its only pay n play or private land where you'll benefit.

 

[lacroupade]

id add that on front due to ifs, not going to gain that much travel, versus roll
will gain rest of time on road. AND on rear you've got the LSD so frankly even
if back wheel doesnt droop as much as could the diff will pick up.

Now if could realease just off road, and not forgetting green lanes are legal
roads for cover. its only pay n play or private land where you'll benefit.

Bloody good point! :thumb2

 

[makeitfit]

Well like I said, in my case the truck is insured as is; ie no arbs.
I do realise the downfalls ON road but cant be bothered taking the front on and off for the weekends. I disagree about the amount of travel though. It's vital at the front due to the open diff. Mine has the bump stops off too for as much droop as poss. The back, although LSD, does spin up in the muck so I like the extra axle travel to keep the wheels on the ground as long as poss.
When I've got enough bucks I'll get the front diff locker on, then things will be different.
In the mean time I'll continue the search for disslocating front arb

 

[lacroupade]

Well like I said, in my case the truck is insured as is; ie no arbs.
I do realise the downfalls ON road but cant be bothered taking the front on and off for the weekends. I disagree about the amount of travel though. It's vital at the front due to the open diff. Mine has the bump stops off too for as much droop as poss. The back, although LSD, does spin up in the muck so I like the extra axle travel to keep the wheels on the ground as long as poss.
When I've got enough bucks I'll get the front diff locker on, then things will be different.
In the mean time I'll continue the search for disslocating front arb

let me get this straight Pete, are you honestly telling me that you've told your insurance company that you've removed a safety feature and they've said "no problem"??? if so, I'm utterly gobsmacked........it must be Trotter Direct??

 

[makeitfit]

let me get this straight Pete, are you honestly telling me that you've told your insurance company that you've removed a safety feature and they've said "no problem"??? if so, I'm utterly gobsmacked........it must be Trotter Direct??

Adrian Flux mate:thumb2
It's more a comfort feature really
Once you get used to it there's only the loose sweeties to worry about:lol
You turn in a bit earlier and keep the power on just before the apex

 

[lacroupade]

Adrian Flux mate:thumb2
It's more a comfort feature really
Once you get used to it there's only the loose sweeties to worry about:lol
You turn in a bit earlier and keep the power on just before the apex

kin ell! :bow

 

[Terranosaurus]

Absolutely ARBs are for the passengers and macpherson strut equiped vehicles which need to limit roll in order to control camber changes. Live axles do not suffer from camber changes under roll at all and twin wishbone set ups are fairly tolerant to it if well designed.

On some models of car lower spec models have no ARB and higher spec ones have them, its all down to passenger comfort. In many condition ARBs actually reduce road holding which is why you will find race cars back off or disconnect theirs in the wet. I've found with the Terrano that the rear is much better stuck and far less likely to come round on the power with the ARB removed.

 

[Dynamics]

Absolutely ARBs are for the passengers and macpherson strut equiped vehicles which need to limit roll in order to control camber changes. Live axles do not suffer from camber changes under roll at all and twin wishbone set ups are fairly tolerant to it if well designed.

On some models of car lower spec models have no ARB and higher spec ones have them, its all down to passenger comfort. In many condition ARBs actually reduce road holding which is why you will find race cars back off or disconnect theirs in the wet. I've found with the Terrano that the rear is much better stuck and far less likely to come round on the power with the ARB removed.

That's why tight (Hard) set-up cars are a nightmare in the wet, a softer sprung and damped suspension set-up will really dig-in when the roads are wet. Interesting topic.