another newbie , please be gentle im a nissan virgin

[briggie]

ive decided to try and get my money back rather than attempt a repair i cannot afford , unless a member wants to buy it off me for what i paid for it ? ( £1100 ), the rac man said there is no way this had passed a legit mot test a month ago with a crack along the bottom of the screen going from one side to the other , and its dangerous because it could go at any time , my first experience with nissan 4x4 is not a very pleasant one . kind regards . pete .

 

[lacroupade]

ive decided to try and get my money back rather than attempt a repair i cannot afford , unless a member wants to buy it off me for what i paid for it ? ( £1100 ), the rac man said there is no way this had passed a legit mot test a month ago with a crack along the bottom of the screen going from one side to the other , and its dangerous because it could go at any time , my first experience with nissan 4x4 is not a very pleasant one . kind regards . pete .

Pete the torque converter is the automatic gearbox equivalent of a clutch and if you get it fixed for a mere £800 you'd be doing bloody well.....its extremely unusual for it to go but it can and its very expensive - an auto box rebuild will cost at least £1500 - assuming they can get the bits for such an old truck....and replacements are like rocking horse shit........sorry your intro to the Mav has been so traumatic, especially when you need it so badly.

Do some Googling, try and find out a bit more about the seller (is he a private individual or a trader?) and think about putting it throuigh Small Claims Court - its simple and cheap and no solicitors involved (nor can anyone claim their costs for same)....you can even do it online. Good luck!:thumb2

 

[briggie]

cry for help

i had to move the mistral this morning so that my beloved could get near our house , it started first time ,and seemed to set off quite well , but within a few seconds it developed the same symptoms . ... ie feels like a slipping clutch ,could the fluid have settled in the bottom of the box and temporarily relieved the symptoms ?, if anyone lives near brighouse and could check for me id be extremely gratefull , i would obviously pay their expenses for a second opinion , kind regards , pete .

 

[lacroupade]

i had to move the mistral this morning so that my beloved could get near our house , it started first time ,and seemed to set off quite well , but within a few seconds it developed the same symptoms . ... ie feels like a slipping clutch ,could the fluid have settled in the bottom of the box and temporarily relieved the symptoms ?, if anyone lives near brighouse and could check for me id be extremely gratefull , i would obviously pay their expenses for a second opinion , kind regards , pete .

Wwell fluid levels is the obvious thing to check but its not something you can do yourself by the sound of it Briggie....and getting someone to check the symptom is little use, auto gearboxes are a law unto themselves and unless people are expert in their construction and maintenance they'll just see the same thing you do.

My advice would be to google a good autobox specialist and give them a bell to discuss....but clearly the ba5tard knew what he was shifting didn't he. I still say do a bit of digging...was HIS name on the V5 for example? Did the ad look like a trader? Cos if so, you have recourse.

 

[lacroupade]

Biggie....this is the gist of the lack of cover you have if he was a genuine private seller...

Buying privately can be cheaper, but it is also riskier as you have fewer legal rights – the car only has to be as described.

So was the car described as being in good running order etc..? worth considering, then go to the CAB or Trading Standards and ask their advice.....and look at the 'trader' status potential.

 

[makeitfit]

Can you post the link to the ebay auction?
Then we can all spy the description and see if he's a merchant:sly

 

[bobbee]

hi briggie. you wont get any codes to read cos your model dont have diagnostic capability. ive got the same model as you and one of the lads here put me right on that after i spent loads of time looking for a garage to do it for me. if shes revving ok then i would check the gearbox oil first. theres always someone on here that can help you or point you in the right direction. hope you get it sorted mate cos its a great motor when it runs right

 

[sidsid06]

hi.just been having a read through all the posts and i am sorry that your having this problem with this truck only after owning it for such a short time!!

seems to me the chap you bought it off new about the problem.. if i was you i would get a rac report on the truck and if the mot is dodge. i go back to the garage and say you are going to report them!! more than likely its 1 of the chaps mates you bought the car off! so they be on his case too!

then i go round his house and put it back on the drive with a sigh in the window saying this man is dishonest and a lier!!! and show him up!! have you asked for your money back?

if i lived closer i bring brothers jcb round to his house and tell him money back or the cars on the drive get it then its your turn

i cant stand liers and people who just dont care and only think of them self and a truck for that money the chap would have know that your not minted and still did not give a f..k!! jcb i think is the best option:thumb2

 

[briggie]

it gets worse ...

i took the car to my garage , eventually i got there , but very slowly , when the mechanics examined the at fluid levels , there was just over 2 litres in the box and it was a brownish /reddish colour , they drained the box and filled it with just over 8 litres of at fluid , it seemed ok , as they tested it , so i drove home ( about a 3 mile journey ) only i didnt get home .....i pulled up at a roundabout because of busy traffic , and couldnt set off again , the engine was revving away , but there was no drive , it was as though i was in neutral , no reverse / forward gears available at all , lots of motorists went around me and hurled abuse because of where i was . i eventually had to pay £40 to be towed home ( after paying £74 for the at fluid ) , the car is now parked outside my house , and im housebound again , ive tried phoning the seller , texting the seller , e mailing the seller , and as yet no response ..... the item number was 220566964698 ., because i cant walk well , it was a huge problem when i broke down because i had to get out of the car to divert cars around me , because the roundabout is on a bend , i am so nissed off that this can happen , but thanks for all the advice , pete .

 

[jims-terrano]

Good Condition? Just been Serviced and it was so low on ATF? 8 Seater nope it's a 7!!!!

Small Claims sounds good to me! then when you've got your money back time for a fresh one:thumb2

Jim

 

[makeitfit]

So was it in his name on the V5, have you got the old mots? If so is there a gap between the last one and this, was it done at the same garage?
It says it's just been serviced Who did the service? If you cant get hold of him your entitled to all the address info from ebay, just incase it's different to where you picked it up from.
History details please:sly

 

[Spook]

item description

"Nissan terrano mistral 4x4 in very good condition 11 months mot 5 months mot diesel 8 seater very good tires just been service many extras 3 owners , selling for smaller car, for more info please ring for 07865968221 thanks. no reserve best bid wins."

2 things: 1-very good condition
2-just been service[d] with only 2litre atf in 'box?! don't think so. what does engine oil/fuel filters look like? look new?

think you may have a reasonable case. item not as described. take pics, get full aa/rac insp report

 

[briggie]

want his name on the v5 , he said it was in his brothers name

 

[makeitfit]

want his name on the v5 , he said it was in his brothers name

Smells like RAT to me:augie
ebay name a bit suss too,
You can contact the old owner and ask him.
as stated above, it's not as described, and IF you've got the mot then you've got the garage that put on the dodgey ticket. Ring em up have a word and make a lot of noise.
Hassle ebay sharpish too.

 

[clivvy]

tricky this one, but certainly not as described is it? because its a 7 seater, not an 8? other than that, his ebay ad is about as basic as they get, i wouldnt have touched it, no where near enough advert details for my liking, the guys pulled a fast one. Thing is, he says good condition, so thats correct, the car is in good CONDITION, he doesnt mention anything about it being mechanically sound, which I think will be his argument. I would get onto this immediatley, claim its not as described, broke down on the way home, this is not acceptable but as its a private sale, i am not sure where you stand. Certainly report it to Ebay, see if they can do anything, problem there is you are not pay pal protected, and his ad says no returns accepted, grr, a very tricky situation, a very clever ad in its simplicity.

I would also try to find a fix, but dont go spending any money now, lets try and focus on whats wrong, and see if everyone can find a fix?

this is awful, I feel right bad for you Pete, I really do. Let us know your plans, there might be something we can do, even if its just advice....

 

[briggie]

as bad as it sounds , i just cant take anymore , i just want to get rid of this , obviously i need the money back , but i really dont want to see this car again ,it has destroyed my faith in nissan to be honest .... sorry folks , i dont hold much hope in getting a full refund to be honest , but i can hope i suppose , its £1120 i cannot afford to lose , but i really never want to see this car again , kind regards and many thanks for your advice , pete .

 

[makeitfit]

No he said very good condition and just serviced. Just had an mot:augie
His brothers car
Rat rat rat.
You just need the info you should have. It's not fit etc get on the case to ebay urgent and then with his address do the small claims court form and tell him it's going ahead if he doesnt cough up.

 

[Ian Hunt]

Hi Pete. Did your mechanic have any other ideas or suggestions apart from changing the AT fluid?

There are garages that specialise in auto-boxes & might have a few further ideas. Some cars, Mercs, Jags etc & many imports are more commonly auto than manual & guys that work mostly on those might be able to help. I know a fantastic independant merc specialist but they're in Stoke..

It can be so frustrating when trying to solve a problem or sort out a rcently bought car. Feels like throwing good money after bad sometimes but by that stage you've invested too much to walk away.....

I know how you feel, having just bought a car with issues too. I like to think (or thought) I was pretty good at spotting lemons too. I guess I'm fortunate in that I wasn't relying on it as my only transport.

 

[clivvy]

agreed, this is a bad start I know, but its not because the car is a Nissan, or that Nissan make poor cars, its because the previous owners has abused it, then pulled a fast one on you. I think if you are going to push for the money back, do so, but at the same time try to get an idea of what is actually wrong with it, I dont know, it may be fixable cheaply. It might not be as bad the auto box being broke, perhaps?

 

[Spook]

i agree with all that has been said, the guy has tried to pull a fast one. get on his case via ebay and small claims. get rac insp - then inform issuing garage mot u'll inform dot with ur evidence that they crap and issuing mots on unsafe vehicles? threaten mot liciense. mot lic lifeblood of most garages.
clivvy right its not the car; its been abused. they really are v good cars and it would have taken alot before it finally gave up. also need to consider that if rest of car good (rac insp will tell u that) then for the cost of a repair vs what you can sell car for and buy another unkown entity?? need a balance of whats realistic