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Discovered that the oil filters on the petrol empty over night, like most of us only change a filter after getting the oil hot, but as the oil pressure switch had failed on the off roader, it is easier to remove the filter to get at it, and was waiting for the normal oil spill, but nothing, not one drop, the filter was dry, now I had assumed that the rubber membrane that can be seen through the small holes should have stopped that, (this was a coopers/fiamm filter) so having a firstline filter on the skip cut it up and the rubber fits and looks good to do the job, so watch this space , I will cut up a coopers very soon and see the difference, together with pics, Rick