A small victory

[R1cho]

well the tv police knocked on the door today, asked if i was the occupier

who wants to know?

t.v licensing

don't need one m8

have you not got sky tv?

no

can i have your name?

erm,,,no

may i ask why??

well after everything you read in the papers you can't be to careful

i dont know what you mean!!

yea all right m8, bye now

then i shut the door as he scuttled off back to his car none the richer from me :clap

 

[stinka]

Lol I went to court about 5 years ago after incriminating myself and letting the guy in and saying that I'd been watching tv that day. Anyway went court and I just said that I'd been mistaken and that I had never watched tv on that set. It got adjourned and I got a letter weeks later saying no further charges

Must have cost them hundreds if not thousands to go thru all that with me, just to get thrown out if court and I still don't pay the licence

 

[R1cho]

yea he looked a bit shocked to say the least :lol

 

[Peasgood1]

I don't see what there is to brag about tbh.

 

[clivvy]

he stuck it to the man without getting arrested :thumbs

bragging rights.

 

[rustic]

Well, when they used to have dog licences, we had a black and white dog, because we thought the licence was cheaper...:lol:lol

Remember when you needed a separate licence for a car radio...:doh


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[stinka]

I don't see what there is to brag about tbh.

Not paying the license that funds the governments propaganda channel IS something we should all strive to do, and be proud of it, unless you want to be a brainwashed sheep ...

 

[exosteve]

I pay mine.
I conner be arsed with people knocking at my door. hiding behind curtains or a fine.

 

[R1cho]

I don't see what there is to brag about tbh.

i'm not even going to get into why i aint paying the fee

 

[R1cho]

I pay mine.
I conner be arsed with people knocking at my door. hiding behind curtains or a fine.

why hide? i answered the door, he asked my name i told him he wasn't having it and that i dont need the license, he went on his way, no hiding or arguing involved all very polite civil and legal

 

[spautoparts]

Well done mate.
Apart from an old law there is no reason to buy a licence.
The only thing it pays for is to fund the BBC which is owned by the government.

Their excuse is that it stops them having to interrupt tv programmes with adverts when in fact its being used to fund other activities.

Next time they knock on your door make sure you tell them that you are video recording them for your own safety. They wont show you any identification and wil walk away because they cannot legally justify why they are there.

Also you can send them a letter telling them that you have withdrawn their implied right of access. Under this law they cannot bother you for another two years.

This method worked in Australia after they had a mass refusal to pay and it was abolished.

Power to the people. Anarchy works.

 

[R1cho]

Well done mate.
Apart from an old law there is no reason to buy a licence.
The only thing it pays for is to fund the BBC which is owned by the government.

Their excuse is that it stops them having to interrupt tv programmes with adverts when in fact its being used to fund other activities.

Next time they knock on your door make sure you tell them that you are video recording them for your own safety. They wont show you any identification and wil walk away because they cannot legally justify why they are there.

Also you can send them a letter telling them that you have withdrawn their implied right of access. Under this law they cannot bother you for another two years.

This method worked in Australia after they had a mass refusal to pay and it was abolished.

Power to the people. Anarchy works.

i have withdrawn their implied right of access with a notice in my front room window, why should i waste a stamp :lol

 

[macabethiel]

TV licence / water rates

Call me a conformist (yeah OK I am a conformist) but I pay my licence fee so I can lawfully use a TV receiver to watch television it is not restricted to the BBC you need one to watch any live TV broadcast.

Its a bit like income tax dodging and people who do not have a current VEL displayed in there vehicle its us tax payers that are subsidising the tax dodgers and in a democracy we live by rules that everyone should abide by. If everyone paid then the cost could fall.

I pay my water rates yet lots don't and it appears they do not get cut off for non payment if they have young kids.

I do not think there is anything clever in avoiding paying a licence fee and it might be that they will pay another visit with a detector van or a warrant to enter.

If you are happy to evade a TV licence fee why not go the whole hog and drive without car insurance its the thin end of the wedge we cannot be selective about laws we choose to obey.

Just do the honest and decent thing like the majority of fee payers and stump up I for one do not want to subsidise you however indirectly.

 

[R1cho]

Call me a conformist (yeah OK I am a conformist) but I pay my licence fee so I can lawfully use a TV receiver to watch television it is not restricted to the BBC you need one to watch any live TV broadcast.

Its a bit like income tax dodging and people who do not have a current VEL displayed in there vehicle its us tax payers that are subsidising the tax dodgers and in a democracy we live by rules that everyone should abide by. If everyone paid then the cost could fall.

I pay my water rates yet lots don't and it appears they do not get cut off for non payment if they have young kids.

I do not think there is anything clever in avoiding paying a licence fee and it might be that they will pay another visit with a detector van or a warrant to enter.

If you are happy to evade a TV licence fee why not go the whole hog and drive without car insurance its the thin end of the wedge we cannot be selective about laws we choose to obey.

Just do the honest and decent thing like the majority of fee payers and stump up I for one do not want to subsidise you however indirectly.

but i dont watch any live broadcasts, all my viewing is dvd's or streamed off youtube and other internet sites, i'm sorry if that goes against your beliefs but thats how it is, why should i pay for a service i do not use? if i didn't use my car i wouldn't have to pay the insurance or the tax the same for anything else i didn't use, as for a warrant its not worth the paper its written on and a detector van can not pin point where a tv is regardless of what they tell you, they can get to within a couple of houses, we dont even have an aerial on the roof nor a satalite dish and where we live you can't get cable tv, so as i said why should i pay for a service that i dont use just because i own a tv?

 

[spautoparts]

Call me a conformist (yeah OK I am a conformist) but I pay my licence fee so I can lawfully use a TV receiver to watch television it is not restricted to the BBC you need one to watch any live TV broadcast.

Its a bit like income tax dodging and people who do not have a current VEL displayed in there vehicle its us tax payers that are subsidising the tax dodgers and in a democracy we live by rules that everyone should abide by. If everyone paid then the cost could fall.

I pay my water rates yet lots don't and it appears they do not get cut off for non payment if they have young kids.

I do not think there is anything clever in avoiding paying a licence fee and it might be that they will pay another visit with a detector van or a warrant to enter.

If you are happy to evade a TV licence fee why not go the whole hog and drive without car insurance its the thin end of the wedge we cannot be selective about laws we choose to obey.

Just do the honest and decent thing like the majority of fee payers and stump up I for one do not want to subsidise you however indirectly.

Please dont take offence but you are the exact type of person that th government love to prey on. You will do exactly as they ask.
As for tax dodging... I work in the care sector which are involves caring for the elderly on end of life care on 12 hour shifts for minimum wage because the government says its a vocation rather than a career and people just accept this. So after work I have to fix a couple of cars on the side to make ends meet and feed my kids because im not eligible for the government benefits. .
Also I pay my water rates because I believe I should. I'm paying for a service. The water company is collecting contaminated water, , cleaning it and pumping it to my house. This is worth paying for.

My point is why should I be bullied into paying out for something that is not really necessary or needed. The government are just big time gangsters at the end of the day and will continue to prey on the sheeple.

It's about time the people made a stand

 

[spautoparts]

Also forgot to mention. There is no such thing as a tv detector van and never has been. This is just another scare tactic by your wonderful government.
Do you know anyone who has ever seen one or worked in one.

 

[Lazy-Ferret]

Also forgot to mention. There is no such thing as a tv detector van and never has been. This is just another scare tactic by your wonderful government.
Do you know anyone who has ever seen one or worked in one.

That is actually untrue... Yes, there were many ghost detector vans, as the technology was very expensive, so it was cheaper to scare people into buying their licence, but there were also several real ones... They use a highly amplified and filtered DF loop, to pick up the IF frequency of the TV set, and by driving round, and taking a couple of readings, they can actually be very precise in where the TV is located in the house.. Ironically, the real ones were harder to spot, as they did not have the oversized dummy aerial on the roof, as it interfered with the DF loop

And Yes I do know people who worked in them, as part of the technology was developed by student projects at the University of Kent, along with several radio amateurs, who were into the TV transmission side of things, and they would bring the vans up for development work, and testing.

 

[spautoparts]

How could it detect where the tv is located in the house. The signal is picked up by a tv antenna then converted to an electrical signal which is then converted to sound and vision.
Also this would be undetectable if delivered by cable which is the most common transmission nowadays.

Also there has never been one single reported prosecution as a result of a detector van.

It's all smoke and mirrors

 

[rustic]

How could it detect where the tv is located in the house. The signal is picked up by a tv antenna then converted to an electrical signal which is then converted to sound and vision.

I know that Briggie knows more about this, but in any receiver be it a radio or TV, has to have an oscillator that runs at or close to the same frequency as the transmitted signal, in simple terms this signal is used to help remove the "carrier " frequency, leaving just the video and audio data.

This oscillator is not that well screened, so some signal escapes, and it is this signal that can be detected. The antennas for detecting these signals are directional, so a line can be drawn, reposition the antenna, and where these lines cross is the position of the transmitter. Hence your TV. So they can then tell you which room it is in.
Depending on the frequency, it was said that they could tell what programme you were watching. BUT this was for the old analogue system, the digital system is different, but the principle is the same.

Hope this helps.
Briggie please feel free to update or correct any thing in my post.

Best regards,

Rustic

 

[briggie]

I know that Briggie knows more about this, but in any receiver be it a radio or TV, has to have an oscillator that runs at or close to the same frequency as the transmitted signal, in simple terms this signal is used to help remove the "carrier " frequency, leaving just the video and audio data.

This oscillator is not that well screened, so some signal escapes, and it is this signal that can be detected. The antennas for detecting these signals are directional, so a line can be drawn, reposition the antenna, and where these lines cross is the position of the transmitter. Hence your TV. So they can then tell you which room it is in.
Depending on the frequency, it was said that they could tell what programme you were watching. BUT this was for the old analogue system, the digital system is different, but the principle is the same.

Hope this helps.
Briggie please feel free to update or correct any thing in my post.

Best regards,

Rustic

as above but......

with a TRANSMITTER it is very easy to determine precise location , however with a RECIEVER it isn't so easy ,but basically what rustic says with regards to the IF , also quite easy to pick up the magnetic field from a line output transformer

with the old analogue tv sets it was quite easy to detect a set being used , slightly more difficult with a digital tv , but still very possible ,
the question is do they have the technology and resources to do it ? ......

I leave that for you to decide :augie