Another Newbie :P

BennoMc85 · 17-06-2010, 19:39

Hi guys am Ben, and after months and months of searching for a quality used 4x4 (had to get rid of my peugeot finance car) i struck lucky and bought a 2003 FORD MAVERICK 3.0 V6 XLT 5DR (AUTO). I lived in the US for 2 years back in 06-08 and used to drive a Ford Expedition (which i loved), and was amazed to discover the Maverick, just when i was starting to contemplate going for another small family car (i had been looking for a long time like i said).

Basically i need as much help as i can from anyone who might hazard a guess as to what's wrong with the car, or more hopefully someone who may have had the same problem.

First of all just so you all know, i knew about this problem before i bought the car. I had been planning to spend alot more on a Land Rover a few days before and so thought that whatever the problem i could use the money left over (from the potential Land Rover deal) to fix the car.

Basically all i can tell you is that once fired up, the engine is noisey, kinda like a rattling sound (my inital guess is some kind of loose bearing). The car runs fine, but i dont know and neither did the guy who sold it to me wether it will run for 10,000 miles or 10 :s

Can anyone help?

Also does anyone know where i can get a owners manual etc.. for the car? All i got was the keys :'(

clivvy · 17-06-2010, 19:44

hmm...rattly noises from the engine arent necessarily a cheap fix, especially considering its a V6. Id consider the timing beltor chain, not sure what it is on the V6 but I suspect its a belt? Id check the hydrhaulic tensioner, they can rattle when leaking or in need of replacement. Id think about tappets, could just need a good quality oil change, dont forget, V6's although tough need care and attention, well, mine does anyway!

If you say its only noisey at startup, and presumably goes away when warm?

im probably not heling, any chance you can take a quick video? upload it to photo bucket and post? unless you can describe the sound in any more detail?

BennoMc85 · 19-06-2010, 21:46

Hi clivvy, sorry about the delay, just been swamped in work this week :'( Well i had a good listen and look today, and in terms of noise it kinda sounds like a tractor. Obviously not as loud, continuious though. Tones down slightly when put into drive, its not very loud when in the car, but with the hood up and standing in front it does sound loud.

I examined the car, and i think the chain in the v6 is possibly the problem. It runs fine when you look at it but i feel that this clicky 'tractor' noise is coming from this, or at least in the surrounding area.

I dont have a camcorder, but i could record the sound on my iphone and e-mail it to you tommorow if you think you can help

Thanks for the help again, and any help anyone else might leave

Ben Mc

BennoMc85 · 19-06-2010, 21:51

p.s. i'm also pretty convinced the timing belt needs changing too. Any ideas in terms of costs?

briggie · 19-06-2010, 22:05

join the club mate , then you are open to a wealth of information / advice etc not forgettin the banter

BennoMc85 · 19-06-2010, 22:10

I am doing on the 28th

no pennies till then

briggie · 19-06-2010, 22:16

as far as im aware the 3.0 is the r50, in which case this is the engine part of the manual .

http://bebrs.pie-dabas.net/Webs/Terrano/R50/em.pdf

BennoMc85 · 19-06-2010, 22:22

after giving that a quick once over, now i think about it, (although i still maintain it sounds like a tractor) it could be this tappet noise.

briggie · 19-06-2010, 22:27

hang on ..... yours is a 2003 isnt it ? in which case this is your manual i think

http://bebrs.pie-dabas.net/Webs/Terrano/R50_2001/em.pdf

BennoMc85 · 22-06-2010, 19:16

My friend is going to fix the Maverick up for me, hes a mechanic whos shop specialises in 4x4. My other friend (also a mechanic) came and took a look last night and he feels it may be the cam shaft. He said its about 50 quid for the actual shaft and maybe 150-200 for the labour, anyone care to be more acurate with an estimate?

MudLifeCrisis · 22-06-2010, 22:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by briggie

hang on ..... yours is a 2003 isnt it ? in which case this is your manual i think

http://bebrs.pie-dabas.net/Webs/Terrano/R50_2001/em.pdf

A 2003 Maverick will be the Mazda not the Terrano one Briggie

briggie · 22-06-2010, 23:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by MudLifeCrisis

A 2003 Maverick will be the Mazda not the Terrano one Briggie

thanks brian ... i do apologise

clivvy · 23-06-2010, 07:57

are you sure its not clutch related? isnt it the clutch plate that rattles on these when they are a bit worn? mine does it a little bit, not much, and yes, sounds a little like a tractor unless you put the clutch down, then it goes away....just a thought...as far as I know its not a problem, and can be fixed next time the clutch is replaced.

BennoMc85 · 30-06-2010, 18:53

Hi guys, sorry its been so long since i posted just been mad busy as usual with work

I have a bit more info on the Maverick that am having trouble with. Basically i replaced the battery and thought that would get me to the garage to get it looked at, sadly i was mistaken. The car keeps cutting off, i think its when the revs get to low.

I took it to a garage whilst driving it yesterday (not the one its going to for its repairs), and the mechanic mentioned something about the bottom and shells :s he didnt seem to sure about the longevity of the car, making alot of grunts and other discouraging noises whilst he looked at it. He did mention that am loosing a lot of oil and that the injector could be clogged or contaminated in some way.

Does anyone care to make a guess at what could be wrong, bear in mind i obviously still have this horrid knocking/grinding noise whilst the car is on, it does seem to die down though the quicker i get :s

thanks for any help as always

clivvy · 30-06-2010, 19:06

sounds very much like what happened to Briggies (pete), i understand what the guy means about bottom end and shells, its the big end bearings i expect he means-not good, but fixable, probably expensive, BUT dont take what he has said as the final word, get it to the repair garage and let them take a look too (second opinon is always good).

V6 engines are extremely tough generally, its just keeping them oiled and cooled. If yuo are losing oil, wheres it going? leaking, out the exhaust or burnt up ? (smoke). as its a v6, i start checking the tappets-a good ioil addidtive from Wynns will sort tappet noise out. i have the hydrhaulic tensioner checked-they can rattle when knackered, and id have the timing belt done at the same time if you think its worth it after a check.

sorry theres nothing concrete to go on for your car, i just dont know the 3.0 V6 i only know my Mazda 2.5 V6, so not sure how similar they are, but ive never heard of a V6 going like that in the 5 years ive owned one, and im a member of two clubs, they all drive V6's...best of luck!

17-06-2010, 19:39	#1
BennoMc85 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Liverpool Vehicle: FORD MAVERICK 3.0 V6 XLT Posts: 10	Another Newbie :P Hi guys am Ben, and after months and months of searching for a quality used 4x4 (had to get rid of my peugeot finance car) i struck lucky and bought a 2003 FORD MAVERICK 3.0 V6 XLT 5DR (AUTO). I lived in the US for 2 years back in 06-08 and used to drive a Ford Expedition (which i loved), and was amazed to discover the Maverick, just when i was starting to contemplate going for another small family car (i had been looking for a long time like i said). Basically i need as much help as i can from anyone who might hazard a guess as to what's wrong with the car, or more hopefully someone who may have had the same problem. First of all just so you all know, i knew about this problem before i bought the car. I had been planning to spend alot more on a Land Rover a few days before and so thought that whatever the problem i could use the money left over (from the potential Land Rover deal) to fix the car. Basically all i can tell you is that once fired up, the engine is noisey, kinda like a rattling sound (my inital guess is some kind of loose bearing). The car runs fine, but i dont know and neither did the guy who sold it to me wether it will run for 10,000 miles or 10 :s Can anyone help? Also does anyone know where i can get a owners manual etc.. for the car? All i got was the keys :'(

17-06-2010, 19:44	#2
clivvy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Huddersfield Vehicle: Terrano 03 LWB Posts: 6,947	hmm...rattly noises from the engine arent necessarily a cheap fix, especially considering its a V6. Id consider the timing beltor chain, not sure what it is on the V6 but I suspect its a belt? Id check the hydrhaulic tensioner, they can rattle when leaking or in need of replacement. Id think about tappets, could just need a good quality oil change, dont forget, V6's although tough need care and attention, well, mine does anyway! If you say its only noisey at startup, and presumably goes away when warm? im probably not heling, any chance you can take a quick video? upload it to photo bucket and post? unless you can describe the sound in any more detail?

19-06-2010, 21:46	#3
BennoMc85 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Liverpool Vehicle: FORD MAVERICK 3.0 V6 XLT Posts: 10	Hi clivvy, sorry about the delay, just been swamped in work this week :'( Well i had a good listen and look today, and in terms of noise it kinda sounds like a tractor. Obviously not as loud, continuious though. Tones down slightly when put into drive, its not very loud when in the car, but with the hood up and standing in front it does sound loud. I examined the car, and i think the chain in the v6 is possibly the problem. It runs fine when you look at it but i feel that this clicky 'tractor' noise is coming from this, or at least in the surrounding area. I dont have a camcorder, but i could record the sound on my iphone and e-mail it to you tommorow if you think you can help Thanks for the help again, and any help anyone else might leave Ben Mc

19-06-2010, 21:51	#4
BennoMc85 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Liverpool Vehicle: FORD MAVERICK 3.0 V6 XLT Posts: 10	p.s. i'm also pretty convinced the timing belt needs changing too. Any ideas in terms of costs?

19-06-2010, 22:05	#5
briggie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: peoples democratic republic of west yorkshire Vehicle: " alice " Posts: 10,473	join the club mate , then you are open to a wealth of information / advice etc not forgettin the banter

19-06-2010, 22:10	#6
BennoMc85 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Liverpool Vehicle: FORD MAVERICK 3.0 V6 XLT Posts: 10	I am doing on the 28th no pennies till then

19-06-2010, 22:16	#7
briggie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: peoples democratic republic of west yorkshire Vehicle: " alice " Posts: 10,473	as far as im aware the 3.0 is the r50, in which case this is the engine part of the manual . http://bebrs.pie-dabas.net/Webs/Terrano/R50/em.pdf

19-06-2010, 22:22	#8
BennoMc85 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Liverpool Vehicle: FORD MAVERICK 3.0 V6 XLT Posts: 10	after giving that a quick once over, now i think about it, (although i still maintain it sounds like a tractor) it could be this tappet noise.

19-06-2010, 22:27	#9
briggie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: peoples democratic republic of west yorkshire Vehicle: " alice " Posts: 10,473	hang on ..... yours is a 2003 isnt it ? in which case this is your manual i think http://bebrs.pie-dabas.net/Webs/Terrano/R50_2001/em.pdf

22-06-2010, 19:16	#10
BennoMc85 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Liverpool Vehicle: FORD MAVERICK 3.0 V6 XLT Posts: 10	My friend is going to fix the Maverick up for me, hes a mechanic whos shop specialises in 4x4. My other friend (also a mechanic) came and took a look last night and he feels it may be the cam shaft. He said its about 50 quid for the actual shaft and maybe 150-200 for the labour, anyone care to be more acurate with an estimate?

23-06-2010, 07:57	#13
clivvy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Huddersfield Vehicle: Terrano 03 LWB Posts: 6,947	are you sure its not clutch related? isnt it the clutch plate that rattles on these when they are a bit worn? mine does it a little bit, not much, and yes, sounds a little like a tractor unless you put the clutch down, then it goes away....just a thought...as far as I know its not a problem, and can be fixed next time the clutch is replaced.

30-06-2010, 18:53	#14
BennoMc85 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Liverpool Vehicle: FORD MAVERICK 3.0 V6 XLT Posts: 10	Hi guys, sorry its been so long since i posted just been mad busy as usual with work I have a bit more info on the Maverick that am having trouble with. Basically i replaced the battery and thought that would get me to the garage to get it looked at, sadly i was mistaken. The car keeps cutting off, i think its when the revs get to low. I took it to a garage whilst driving it yesterday (not the one its going to for its repairs), and the mechanic mentioned something about the bottom and shells :s he didnt seem to sure about the longevity of the car, making alot of grunts and other discouraging noises whilst he looked at it. He did mention that am loosing a lot of oil and that the injector could be clogged or contaminated in some way. Does anyone care to make a guess at what could be wrong, bear in mind i obviously still have this horrid knocking/grinding noise whilst the car is on, it does seem to die down though the quicker i get :s thanks for any help as always

30-06-2010, 19:06	#15
clivvy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Huddersfield Vehicle: Terrano 03 LWB Posts: 6,947	sounds very much like what happened to Briggies (pete), i understand what the guy means about bottom end and shells, its the big end bearings i expect he means-not good, but fixable, probably expensive, BUT dont take what he has said as the final word, get it to the repair garage and let them take a look too (second opinon is always good). V6 engines are extremely tough generally, its just keeping them oiled and cooled. If yuo are losing oil, wheres it going? leaking, out the exhaust or burnt up ? (smoke). as its a v6, i start checking the tappets-a good ioil addidtive from Wynns will sort tappet noise out. i have the hydrhaulic tensioner checked-they can rattle when knackered, and id have the timing belt done at the same time if you think its worth it after a check. sorry theres nothing concrete to go on for your car, i just dont know the 3.0 V6 i only know my Mazda 2.5 V6, so not sure how similar they are, but ive never heard of a V6 going like that in the 5 years ive owned one, and im a member of two clubs, they all drive V6's...best of luck!