Vehicle Taxation (RFL) Changes - 1 May

Steve_Ray · 12-04-2009, 20:57

Well, sadly it looks like the robbin' b*****s (sorry government) have finally made up their minds about vehicle taxation. But they don't seem to have shouted about it like they did when they deffered the decision a few months back, even though it's going to be "slipped in" from 1 May this year!

So what are the key pieces of information?

1) Registation date? - was the vehicle registered before 23 March 2006?

2) Emmissions? - are the CO2 emissions greater than 225g/km?

How will it effect the Road Fund Licence?

If your vehicle emits more than 225g/km of CO2, then if your vehicle was registered BEFORE 23 MARCH 2006, then your annual RFL will cost you £215 (£235 in 2010).

However, if your vehicle emits more than 225g/km of CO2 and was registered on 23 MARCH 2006 or later, then your annual RFL will be whopping £405 (£435 in 2010).

All Land Rovers bar the new Freelander Td4 fall into this category and just checking the CO2 listings in Autoexpress, I notice the following Nissans do too:

X-trail (2.5 Aventura & Sport models only)

Murano

Pathfinder (all models)

Patrol (all models)

Wonder when Mr Darling will take to wearing a three-pointed hat like Dick Turpin!

lacroupade · 12-04-2009, 21:02

Crap news for later cars - but could have been worse for pre-o6 models.

Damian Strudley · 12-04-2009, 21:37

What a mess they are making of this country... if they dropped the fuel prices might not be so bad.. Maybe they should be made to account for the money they are making.

zippy656 · 12-04-2009, 22:09

i just this more people will be worrking at keeping there odler cars, unlike before when wed just get a newer one.

just so we dont pay the higher tax. its just not 4x4s remember other "family" cars fall into this too..

zippy

Steve_Ray · 12-04-2009, 22:29

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Originally Posted by zippy656

i .......... its just not 4x4s remember other "family" cars fall into this too..

zippy

Too right mate - 225g/km is not particularly "generous" ......... many vehicles will fall into this category, incl loadsa MPVs!

jims-terrano · 12-04-2009, 23:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian Strudley

What a mess they are making of this country... if they dropped the fuel prices might not be so bad.. Maybe they should be made to account for the money they are making.

Don't forget we just had a 2P per litre rise that had been delayed

Jim T

Steve_Ray · 13-04-2009, 12:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by jims-terrano

Don't forget we just had a 2P per litre rise that had been delayed

Jim T

Too right mate ........ like I said in original post, at least Dirk Turpin wore a 3-pointed hat (and a mask) ..... at a loss as to where it'll end - the motorist is just a "soft touch"

dinky · 13-04-2009, 15:10

Sons fiance has a ford ka sports and thats going to be in the high tax bracket,she,s well pissed off about it as it never goes out on donny.Sons v70 is their main transport.

Deleted account DD · 13-04-2009, 16:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve_Ray

Wonder when Mr Darling will take to wearing a three-pointed hat like Dick Turpin!

He doesnt need to, he can sneak around without confrontation.

I cant believe how much this government are costing "normal" folk who have toed the line

lacroupade · 13-04-2009, 18:02

Whats the damage going to be for 'commercials' like the Navara, Hilux etc....weren't they restricted to £180 in the last round, regardless of year of manufacture?

tezzer · 13-04-2009, 19:46

i bet the french would'nt put up with it, and nor should we, but we had all this with petrol before and we did nothing really to support the demos, we just sit back and take it in the crutch, then moan when it happens, what would happen if no-one taxed their vehicles when up for renewall?

tezzer

Deleted account DD · 13-04-2009, 20:26

I reckon the first few thousand would get stuck on and then the system would jam up........................any volunteers

BUT bear in mind seized vehicles are crushed within a few days I'm told

makeitfit · 13-04-2009, 21:17

Are these tax bands based on manufactered outputs of the bad stuff?
OR are they based on "actual" output?
Reason I ask is I was chatting at length this w/e about LPG on oil burners

Combine LPG with diesel and increase calorific value,soo, it should reduce waste out

Oh yeh, go faster too

Steve_Ray · 13-04-2009, 21:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by makeitfit

Are these tax bands based on manufactered outputs of the bad stuff?
OR are they based on "actual" output?
Reason I ask is I was chatting at length this w/e about LPG on oil burners

Combine LPG with diesel and increase calorific value,soo, it should reduce waste out

Oh yeh, go faster too

It's based on the "official" CO2 output figures as stated on the V5 (log book)

makeitfit · 13-04-2009, 21:36

So can that figure be changed by DVLA with new output evidence

12-04-2009, 20:57	#1
Steve_Ray Muddy Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: West Midlands Vehicle: 300Tdi Disco & Hybrid 90 Posts: 84	Vehicle Taxation (RFL) Changes - 1 May Well, sadly it looks like the robbin' b*****s (sorry government) have finally made up their minds about vehicle taxation. But they don't seem to have shouted about it like they did when they deffered the decision a few months back, even though it's going to be "slipped in" from 1 May this year! So what are the key pieces of information? 1) Registation date? - was the vehicle registered before 23 March 2006? 2) Emmissions? - are the CO2 emissions greater than 225g/km? How will it effect the Road Fund Licence? If your vehicle emits more than 225g/km of CO2, then if your vehicle was registered BEFORE 23 MARCH 2006, then your annual RFL will cost you £215 (£235 in 2010). However, if your vehicle emits more than 225g/km of CO2 and was registered on 23 MARCH 2006 or later, then your annual RFL will be whopping £405 (£435 in 2010). All Land Rovers bar the new Freelander Td4 fall into this category and just checking the CO2 listings in Autoexpress, I notice the following Nissans do too: X-trail (2.5 Aventura & Sport models only) Murano Pathfinder (all models) Patrol (all models) Wonder when Mr Darling will take to wearing a three-pointed hat like Dick Turpin! __________________ Rgds, Steve

12-04-2009, 21:02	#2
lacroupade Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: All hail to the Glove of Love... Posts: 9,212	Crap news for later cars - but could have been worse for pre-o6 models.

12-04-2009, 21:37	#3
Damian Strudley Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Kent is my main base agian still work in Yorks Vehicle: Maverick Chasseur lwb Posts: 55	What a mess they are making of this country... if they dropped the fuel prices might not be so bad.. Maybe they should be made to account for the money they are making.

12-04-2009, 22:09	#4
zippy656 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Devizes Wiltshire Vehicle: Nissan Note Ntec 1.5 Posts: 14,138	i just this more people will be worrking at keeping there odler cars, unlike before when wed just get a newer one. just so we dont pay the higher tax. its just not 4x4s remember other "family" cars fall into this too.. zippy

13-04-2009, 15:10	#8
dinky Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SOCIALIST REPUBLIC OF SOUTH YORKSHIRE Vehicle: t20 lwb Posts: 1,238	Sons fiance has a ford ka sports and thats going to be in the high tax bracket,she,s well pissed off about it as it never goes out on donny.Sons v70 is their main transport.

13-04-2009, 18:02	#10
lacroupade Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: All hail to the Glove of Love... Posts: 9,212	Whats the damage going to be for 'commercials' like the Navara, Hilux etc....weren't they restricted to £180 in the last round, regardless of year of manufacture?

13-04-2009, 19:46	#11
tezzer Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: basildon essex Vehicle: transit camper van 1987 Posts: 2,829	i bet the french would'nt put up with it, and nor should we, but we had all this with petrol before and we did nothing really to support the demos, we just sit back and take it in the crutch, then moan when it happens, what would happen if no-one taxed their vehicles when up for renewall? tezzer

13-04-2009, 20:26	#12
Deleted account DD Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 4,705	I reckon the first few thousand would get stuck on and then the system would jam up........................any volunteers BUT bear in mind seized vehicles are crushed within a few days I'm told

13-04-2009, 21:17	#13
makeitfit Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: on the beach WEST WALES Vehicle: Maverick TDi BLACK mmm Posts: 15,136	Are these tax bands based on manufactered outputs of the bad stuff? OR are they based on "actual" output? Reason I ask is I was chatting at length this w/e about LPG on oil burners Combine LPG with diesel and increase calorific value,soo, it should reduce waste out Oh yeh, go faster too

13-04-2009, 21:36	#15
makeitfit Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: on the beach WEST WALES Vehicle: Maverick TDi BLACK mmm Posts: 15,136	So can that figure be changed by DVLA with new output evidence