Jump leads

The Patrolman · 04-09-2017, 22:40

Ok guys what jump leads do you use.
Cheap, expensive or inherited.
Ive had a few cheap sets and after a few uses they are no more use than a bit of string...

Having spent some time today it apears that a lot of the cheaper sets are CCA. Copper coated aluminium. This is also used as a selling point. They are sh!te.

RJL Services · 04-09-2017, 23:15

i have always had good heavy duty ones the type that are used on lorrys good copper core and of a decent length cheap ones are a complete waste of time and money the ones i have must be 20 yrs old now

solarman216 · 04-09-2017, 23:31

It is not dear to make your own, 50mm sq welding cable and 4 decent clips, from most on line vehicle electrical suppliers, Rick

The Patrolman · 04-09-2017, 23:38

I had a great set and someone borrowed them ages ago and they never reappeared.
I found an electro marine outfit selling the cables and crocks but it worked out cheaper to buy the ready made set from them. Made by the same company that supply the cable in the uk

5m long with 35m2 cables, quality crocks with the flexi braid links in them to.
Should be here tomorrow.
They are mine

stevew · 04-09-2017, 23:39

i`m with rick i made my own with welding clamps and earth wire i salvaged from a electric pole

The Patrolman · 04-09-2017, 23:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by solarman216

It is not dear to make your own, 50mm sq welding cable and 4 decent clips, from most on line vehicle electrical suppliers, Rick

Wow.. how long did it take me to type my last message

The Patrolman · 04-09-2017, 23:42

The crap set I tried using at the weekend cost me an hour fekkkin' about.
New ones here tomorrow

Lazy-Ferret · 04-09-2017, 23:51

I was asked to jump start a Merc at the end of the GDSF, last week, and he said he had a set of jump leads. I drove over, and connected up, but even after leaving my car running for 10mins, at high revs, his battery still had no charge.

I took the cover off of his leads, and while the wires must have been at least 10mm thick, the actual copper strands down the centre were less than standard 15amp cable. Then to top it off, one of the clamps was crimped round the insulation, not the wire... I fixed that, but again after another 10mins, it still would not actually turn over.

My leads were under the back seat, and the truck was fully loaded to come home, but I dug them out, and his car started instantly.

Instead of purchasing mine by current rating, as most of the cheaper ones lie about that, I purchased them by wire conductor size, so I have a set of 6m 50mm2 leads, basically made from welding wire.

Blocky10 · 05-09-2017, 00:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by solarman216

It is not dear to make your own, 50mm sq welding cable and 4 decent clips, from most on line vehicle electrical suppliers, Rick

My brother has a set made from welding earth cable. They've outlasted every other set we've tried.

The Patrolman · 05-09-2017, 00:41

Always make sure they are solid copper cores not cca ...... And that they are not crimped on the Insulation

Banshee · 05-09-2017, 09:00

Mine are HGV ones but ran my battery that flat the weekend Blocky had to tow start me

macabethiel · 05-09-2017, 11:32

Mine are a multi stranded copper set around 6 mm core, one of the clips I replaced about 20 years ago as it was accidentally run over !

My Dad kept them in his briefcase along with a few sets of AC Delco contact breaker points and some short reach spark plugs.

The two cables were held together by a plastic sleeve that fell apart yonks ago so now it has some loops of insulating tape every 6 inches along. The springs in the clips are still very strong and make a good connection.

I lent them to my neighbour yesterday together with a slave battery as his car had a failed battery. I hope to get them back in a couple of days. There was a second set of even heavier and extra long ones that were used for 6 volts vehicles but they snapped about 30 years ago due to being folded into said briefcase!

solarman216 · 05-09-2017, 21:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by macabethiel

Mine are a multi stranded copper set around 6 mm core, one of the clips I replaced about 20 years ago as it was accidentally run over !

Think you are like me getting forgetful on numbers, 6mm is only good for 50amps 50 mm is good for 345amps but at 6 Mts long will carry less, Rick

Barrbeast · 05-09-2017, 21:53

Mine are ones I had made from welding cable, 6mtr I think.

Jumped the tractor plenty times with no bother.

solarman216 · 05-09-2017, 21:59

Rob my old mate, do not confuse 6mm with 6Mtr Rick

04-09-2017, 22:40	#1
The Patrolman Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Redcar, Teesside Vehicle: Y60 Patrol 4.2 PeTroll Posts: 2,122	Jump leads Ok guys what jump leads do you use. Cheap, expensive or inherited. Ive had a few cheap sets and after a few uses they are no more use than a bit of string... Having spent some time today it apears that a lot of the cheaper sets are CCA. Copper coated aluminium. This is also used as a selling point. They are sh!te.

04-09-2017, 23:31	#3
solarman216 Off road maniac Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bexhill on Sea Vehicle: Y60 Patrol Me, 3 ltr Mrs Posts: 17,431	It is not dear to make your own, 50mm sq welding cable and 4 decent clips, from most on line vehicle electrical suppliers, Rick __________________ Ex banger racer now off road maniac Lokka on the front with manual hubs Diff lock on rear 3 inch SS straight through exhaust Manly winch bumper with 13000 lb winch 10 spike ground anchor, with multiple straps and blocks Super strong body cills capped with scaffold pole 20% stronger springs all round aggressive off road tyres on wheels so just swap. Aim to get stuck and be completely self sufficient in extraction, love getting muddy, 2ft deep is good but rare.

05-09-2017, 09:00	#11
Banshee Moderator Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: West Midlands Vehicle: 04 2.7 SWB Terrano II Van Posts: 13,526	Mine are HGV ones but ran my battery that flat the weekend Blocky had to tow start me __________________ Moderator 04' Terrano II SE 2.7 TDi SWB Commercial in Silver - Project Thread Toyo Open Country M/T 33's on 10J Steels, Super Strong Steering Job Navara D22 Snorkel, Front LOKKA, Maunal Hubs, EGR Blank TunitII ECU Chip, 3" Body Lift, 2" Suss Lift, Heat Exchanger Black Interior, 3.0 Borg&Beck Clutch, Eckes Heated Fuel Filter 99' Y61 Patrol GR SE 2.8 TD6 LWB in Blue/Silver - Project Thread Engine Transplant - In Progress!!!

05-09-2017, 11:32	#12
macabethiel Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Derby Vehicle: Freelander & Jeep GC 3.0 Posts: 4,416	Mine are Inherited they are about 40 years old ! Mine are a multi stranded copper set around 6 mm core, one of the clips I replaced about 20 years ago as it was accidentally run over ! My Dad kept them in his briefcase along with a few sets of AC Delco contact breaker points and some short reach spark plugs. The two cables were held together by a plastic sleeve that fell apart yonks ago so now it has some loops of insulating tape every 6 inches along. The springs in the clips are still very strong and make a good connection. I lent them to my neighbour yesterday together with a slave battery as his car had a failed battery. I hope to get them back in a couple of days. There was a second set of even heavier and extra long ones that were used for 6 volts vehicles but they snapped about 30 years ago due to being folded into said briefcase!

05-09-2017, 21:59	#15
solarman216 Off road maniac Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bexhill on Sea Vehicle: Y60 Patrol Me, 3 ltr Mrs Posts: 17,431	Rob my old mate, do not confuse 6mm with 6Mtr Rick __________________ Ex banger racer now off road maniac Lokka on the front with manual hubs Diff lock on rear 3 inch SS straight through exhaust Manly winch bumper with 13000 lb winch 10 spike ground anchor, with multiple straps and blocks Super strong body cills capped with scaffold pole 20% stronger springs all round aggressive off road tyres on wheels so just swap. Aim to get stuck and be completely self sufficient in extraction, love getting muddy, 2ft deep is good but rare.

04-09-2017, 23:15	#2
RJL Services Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: southwest gloucester Vehicle: Nissan Terrano 2.7 2003 Posts: 615	i have always had good heavy duty ones the type that are used on lorrys good copper core and of a decent length cheap ones are a complete waste of time and money the ones i have must be 20 yrs old now

04-09-2017, 23:38	#4
The Patrolman Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Redcar, Teesside Vehicle: Y60 Patrol 4.2 PeTroll Posts: 2,122	I had a great set and someone borrowed them ages ago and they never reappeared. I found an electro marine outfit selling the cables and crocks but it worked out cheaper to buy the ready made set from them. Made by the same company that supply the cable in the uk 5m long with 35m2 cables, quality crocks with the flexi braid links in them to. Should be here tomorrow. They are mine

04-09-2017, 23:39	#5
stevew Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Staffordshire Vehicle: maverick swb Posts: 92	i`m with rick i made my own with welding clamps and earth wire i salvaged from a electric pole

04-09-2017, 23:42	#7
The Patrolman Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Redcar, Teesside Vehicle: Y60 Patrol 4.2 PeTroll Posts: 2,122	The crap set I tried using at the weekend cost me an hour fekkkin' about. New ones here tomorrow

04-09-2017, 23:51	#8
Lazy-Ferret Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Sevenoaks, Kent Vehicle: Terrano 2.7TDi SE Touring Posts: 5,221	I was asked to jump start a Merc at the end of the GDSF, last week, and he said he had a set of jump leads. I drove over, and connected up, but even after leaving my car running for 10mins, at high revs, his battery still had no charge. I took the cover off of his leads, and while the wires must have been at least 10mm thick, the actual copper strands down the centre were less than standard 15amp cable. Then to top it off, one of the clamps was crimped round the insulation, not the wire... I fixed that, but again after another 10mins, it still would not actually turn over. My leads were under the back seat, and the truck was fully loaded to come home, but I dug them out, and his car started instantly. Instead of purchasing mine by current rating, as most of the cheaper ones lie about that, I purchased them by wire conductor size, so I have a set of 6m 50mm2 leads, basically made from welding wire.

05-09-2017, 00:41	#10
The Patrolman Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Redcar, Teesside Vehicle: Y60 Patrol 4.2 PeTroll Posts: 2,122	Always make sure they are solid copper cores not cca ...... And that they are not crimped on the Insulation

05-09-2017, 21:53	#14
Barrbeast Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Dundee, Scotland Vehicle: 1990 4.2 SWB Safari Posts: 2,615	Mine are ones I had made from welding cable, 6mtr I think. Jumped the tractor plenty times with no bother.