roof rail question

solarman216 · 17-02-2014, 22:09

Have now got a set of roof rails, but need to get these self expanding nut thingies to go in the roof, any one know what they are called? Rick

cncfabs · 17-02-2014, 22:11

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Originally Posted by solarman216

Have now got a set of roof rails, but need to get these self expanding nut thingies to go in the roof, any one know what they are called? Rick

Avdels or rivnuts

Lazy-Ferret · 17-02-2014, 22:13

Yep Rivnuts... I have the tool for putting them in, if you don't want to go to the hassle of buying one, I could bring it down when we do the head!!!!

solarman216 · 17-02-2014, 22:20

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Originally Posted by Lazy-Ferret

Yep Rivnuts... I have the tool for putting them in, if you don't want to go to the hassle of buying one, I could bring it down when we do the head!!!!

Thank's Clive, when you planing on coming down? Rick

rustic · 17-02-2014, 22:25

Some are called nutserts. or even clinch nuts.

I fitted some M8 ones without a tool...

This is how.. well for M8 anyhow...
take a long M8 bolt, run a M8 nut up the thread, then a washer, then insert the bolt into the nutsert, or rivnut, until all the thread of the nutsert is engaged, insert the nutsert into the hole, then hold the bolt head so that the thread doesn't rotate in the rivnut, and tighten the M8 nut which will then compress the nutsert. When compressed enough, slacken the nut, then withdraw the bolt. In fact, if you can get to the inside, after insertion, and he thread is long enough, you could put a lock nut on the underside to stop it turning whilst you tighten the nut.

Simples...

Do not allow the bolt to turn in the nutsert thread whilst compressing with the nut. OR the thread could strip in the nutsert.

Lazy-Ferret · 17-02-2014, 22:32

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Originally Posted by solarman216

Thank's Clive, when you planing on coming down? Rick

I still need to order the head gasket set, but was waiting on your news on your cylinder head... I didn't want to harass you.

solarman216 · 17-02-2014, 22:36

Thank's Rustic, never planed on getting a tool, would have done just as you say, Rick

solarman216 · 17-02-2014, 22:39

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Originally Posted by Lazy-Ferret

I still need to order the head gasket set, but was waiting on your news on your cylinder head... I didn't want to harass you.

OK better get on it tomorrow, and pull the injectors to have a look see, but not sure about No 1 as with the wire a "special tool" is needed, but not looked at it in detail as yet, but do not forget it is a Slindon Sunday comming, Rick

davenclaire · 17-02-2014, 23:30

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Originally Posted by solarman216

OK better get on it tomorrow, and pull the injectors to have a look see, but not sure about No 1 as with the wire a "special tool" is needed, but not looked at it in detail as yet, but do not forget it is a Slindon Sunday comming, Rick

rick iv got the special tool to remove no1 injector happy to drop it down to you mate

exosteve · 17-02-2014, 23:39

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Originally Posted by rustic

Some are called nutserts. or even clinch nuts.

I fitted some M8 ones without a tool...

This is how.. well for M8 anyhow...
take a long M8 bolt, run a M8 nut up the thread, then a washer, then insert the bolt into the nutsert, or rivnut, until all the thread of the nutsert is engaged, insert the nutsert into the hole, then hold the bolt head so that the thread doesn't rotate in the rivnut, and tighten the M8 nut which will then compress the nutsert. When compressed enough, slacken the nut, then withdraw the bolt. In fact, if you can get to the inside, after insertion, and he thread is long enough, you could put a lock nut on the underside to stop it turning whilst you tighten the nut.

Simples...

Do not allow the bolt to turn in the nutsert thread whilst compressing with the nut. OR the thread could strip in the nutsert.

what he said. no need for special tools. you just need three hands.

if you need a picture of a home made tool give us a shout.

solarman216 · 17-02-2014, 23:51

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Originally Posted by davenclaire

rick iv got the special tool to remove no1 injector happy to drop it down to you mate

That is a nice offer, let me remove the other three and have a look first, will get back to you if needed, regards Rick

solarman216 · 17-02-2014, 23:53

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Originally Posted by exosteve

what he said. no need for special tools. you just need three hands.

if you need a picture of a home made tool give us a shout.

Thank's Steve but I can make most tools required, Rick

kitchenman · 18-02-2014, 00:06

The rivnut tool is very much like the tool you use for fixing to plasterboard, Fastbrolly I think they are called, like this
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ri...w=1680&bih=963

solarman216 · 18-02-2014, 00:16

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Originally Posted by kitchenman

The rivnut tool is very much like the tool you use for fixing to plasterboard, Fastbrolly I think they are called, like this
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ri...w=1680&bih=963

yep I have one of them some place, but I only have 12 nuts to fit so no real need of a fast fix tool, thanks any way, Rick

Sweety · 18-02-2014, 00:41

Dumb Q but are the rails hard to fit ie getting everything lined up

have thought about adding some onto mine but the roof is stepped as I don't have a sunroof

17-02-2014, 22:09	#1
solarman216 Off road maniac Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bexhill on Sea Vehicle: Y60 Patrol Me, 3 ltr Mrs Posts: 17,431	roof rail question Have now got a set of roof rails, but need to get these self expanding nut thingies to go in the roof, any one know what they are called? Rick __________________ Ex banger racer now off road maniac Lokka on the front with manual hubs Diff lock on rear 3 inch SS straight through exhaust Manly winch bumper with 13000 lb winch 10 spike ground anchor, with multiple straps and blocks Super strong body cills capped with scaffold pole 20% stronger springs all round aggressive off road tyres on wheels so just swap. Aim to get stuck and be completely self sufficient in extraction, love getting muddy, 2ft deep is good but rare.

17-02-2014, 22:25	#5
rustic Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Staffordshire Vehicle: Maverick Mk I 2.7 TD LWB Posts: 7,825	Some are called nutserts. or even clinch nuts. I fitted some M8 ones without a tool... This is how.. well for M8 anyhow... take a long M8 bolt, run a M8 nut up the thread, then a washer, then insert the bolt into the nutsert, or rivnut, until all the thread of the nutsert is engaged, insert the nutsert into the hole, then hold the bolt head so that the thread doesn't rotate in the rivnut, and tighten the M8 nut which will then compress the nutsert. When compressed enough, slacken the nut, then withdraw the bolt. In fact, if you can get to the inside, after insertion, and he thread is long enough, you could put a lock nut on the underside to stop it turning whilst you tighten the nut. Simples... Do not allow the bolt to turn in the nutsert thread whilst compressing with the nut. OR the thread could strip in the nutsert. __________________ Ford Maverick GLX 1995 2.7TD LWB in illusion silver, 98k miles. Owned since new, for 22 years. Best car I have ever owned. Just wish I could drive it more.

17-02-2014, 22:36	#7
solarman216 Off road maniac Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bexhill on Sea Vehicle: Y60 Patrol Me, 3 ltr Mrs Posts: 17,431	Thank's Rustic, never planed on getting a tool, would have done just as you say, Rick __________________ Ex banger racer now off road maniac Lokka on the front with manual hubs Diff lock on rear 3 inch SS straight through exhaust Manly winch bumper with 13000 lb winch 10 spike ground anchor, with multiple straps and blocks Super strong body cills capped with scaffold pole 20% stronger springs all round aggressive off road tyres on wheels so just swap. Aim to get stuck and be completely self sufficient in extraction, love getting muddy, 2ft deep is good but rare.

17-02-2014, 22:13	#3
Lazy-Ferret Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Sevenoaks, Kent Vehicle: Terrano 2.7TDi SE Touring Posts: 5,221	Yep Rivnuts... I have the tool for putting them in, if you don't want to go to the hassle of buying one, I could bring it down when we do the head!!!!

18-02-2014, 00:06	#13
kitchenman Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Essex Wescliff Vehicle: maverick 1994 2.7 TD Posts: 1,278	The rivnut tool is very much like the tool you use for fixing to plasterboard, Fastbrolly I think they are called, like this https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ri...w=1680&bih=963

18-02-2014, 00:41	#15
Sweety Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Northumberland Vehicle: Terrano 2.7TDI SE LWB Posts: 3,604	Dumb Q but are the rails hard to fit ie getting everything lined up have thought about adding some onto mine but the roof is stepped as I don't have a sunroof