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Old 03-12-2013, 20:38   #1
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My LWB Terrano currently has standard tyres as recommended in manual.
I really would like to get some heavy duty type tyres with the big treads as seen on many Landrovers. I would need to be able to use them for all driving conditions.can anyone advise
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Old 03-12-2013, 20:44   #2
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AT's are, what you want
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Old 03-12-2013, 20:50   #3
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Any MUD tyres will do, I'd recommend cooper stt as they drive like an all terrain tyre

But if you do little road driving then fedima scirocco are the way to go for maximum mud performance
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Old 03-12-2013, 22:21   #4
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Or get a set of BFG's. Just got mine fitted and they are just as good as I remember both on and off road
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Old 03-12-2013, 22:24   #5
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But if you do little road driving then fedima scirocco are the way to go for maximum mud performance
Maybe not, They are remoulds from truck tyres so their sidewall is very thick so they don't flex when you run lower pressures. Although that means their sidewall is strong!
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Old 04-12-2013, 08:42   #6
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Can someone explain what are BFG,s and AT,s.
Are both also suitable for on road normal driving

Any idea of cost .
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Old 04-12-2013, 09:37   #7
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Sorry meant to ask for the tyre numbers
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Old 04-12-2013, 10:46   #8
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These are generalisations, and there will be exceptions to these, but basically..

Road tyres, are designed for Tarmac roads, and will always return quietest ride, and best MPG. They also offer the best grip on roads, but are heading towards being useless once you leave the hard stuff though.

Snow tyres, are road tyres, but have a special tread, that is designed to clear snow from the grooves, and some have the mountings for studs built in. They tend to be good in the wet as well, but owing to their design, have a shorter life expectancy on good hard roads. Can be OK on grass, but once you hit mud, then they tend to stop gripping as well.

AT = All Terrain.. A mixed tyre that is OK for light off road use, and has good road manners. Usually able to take a few more knocks, as they are designed to go over stones and rocks, and have better re-enforcing of the side walls, making them less like to be damaged by pot holes, and hard objects. The road noise is medium, and while not as economical as standard road tyres, are usually Ok. Basically, it's a compromise tyre for a soft roader.

MT = Muddy Terrain.. A tyre that will work in the worst of muddy conditions, but because of the type of tread needed, tend to have poorer, and sometimes very poor road manners. They also tend to be very noisy, and cost more in fuel to turn...

For general purpose, middle of the road easy to source types, it tend to come down to either General Grabbers ("Generals"), or B F Goodrich ("BFG's"), although, there are many many more, depending on where you live, and how much you want to pay. The main thing to look out for, if you do have an aversion to running remoulds, is a lot of the others tend to be just that, but some do make it hard for you to discover that they are...
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Have a look on this site.

http://www.4site4x4.co.uk/4x4-tyres.aspx
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I have Malatesta Koala AT remoulds on mine, they are an almost identical BFG copy and superior to all the other remoulds on the market in load rating speed rating, side wall protection etc. I have lost track of the mileage I've done on them now but about 11,000, at a guess, and they have only the slightest signs of wear on the outside edges on the front ones. I tow some pretty huge caravans around, right up to the max legal length and capacity for the T2 (2800k) and more weight still when off road fixing fences etc. I go off road in muddy fields and stuff daily (TTT2 can tell you how steep the bank is in the middle of our small paddock and I tow a loaded trailer up and down that in the mud). I find them a little better than the BFG AT they are modelled on both in off road and off road performance, the back end isn't quite as lively on the road and they seem to self clean better off road. I shopped around and got a set of five for around half the price of BFG AT too! I could go on, but I wont lol

I once spent a fortune on a brand new set of BFG's and damaged three of them beyond repair in the first two weeks! I think it's all about value for money and I wouldn't spend the best part of a grand on tyres for a car as old as mine. I would certainly by them again and recommend them, having run Kingpin remoulds and Insa remoulds I wouldn't buy either of them again!

http://tyresdirectuk.co.uk/shop/prod...name=&id=17288

but haggle and shop around!

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I have Malatesta Koala AT remoulds on mine, they are an almost identical BFG copy and superior to all the other remoulds on the market in load rating speed rating, side wall protection etc. I have lost track of the mileage I've done on them now but about 11,000, at a guess, and they have only the slightest signs of wear on the outside edges on the front ones. I tow some pretty huge caravans around, right up to the max legal length and capacity for the T2 (2800k) and more weight still when off road fixing fences etc. I go off road in muddy fields and stuff daily (TTT2 can tell you how steep the bank is in the middle of our small paddock and I tow a loaded trailer up and down that in the mud). I find them a little better than the BFG AT they are modelled on both in off road and off road performance, the back end isn't quite as lively on the road and they seem to self clean better off road. I shopped around and got a set of five for around half the price of BFG AT too! I could go on, but I wont lol

I once spent a fortune on a brand new set of BFG's and damaged three of them beyond repair in the first two weeks! I think it's all about value for money and I wouldn't spend the best part of a grand on tyres for a car as old as mine. I would certainly by them again and recommend them, having run Kingpin remoulds and Insa remoulds I wouldn't buy either of them again!

http://tyresdirectuk.co.uk/shop/prod...name=&id=17288

but haggle and shop around!
my father-in-law has told me never go for remould ?. go for budget rather than remould . he won't tell me why ?. so my question is are remould safe and how long do they last on country roads?.
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my father-in-law has told me never go for remould ?. go for budget rather than remould . he won't tell me why ?. so my question is are remould safe and how long do they last on country roads?.
I think Remoulds have come on leaps and bounds since the old days, when the tread would just peal off the carcase, and cause untold damaged to the car... But... it's a bit like buying a Lada, or Scoda, they are great cars, but they have that badge that just makes you wonder if you are doing the right thing, and I think Remoulds are the same for a lot of people.

The thing is, most Off Roaders are not designed for speed, and that was where Remoulds did seem to come off worse, so again, no real reason to stay away from them.

I wanted to get the Koala's, but we do not have any stockists down this way, and by the time I ordered them, and then pay my local tyre dealer to fit them, they came in more expensive than the BFG's direct form the place I always go.
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To be honest it's an olf fashioned debate, some of the biggest tyre manufacturers in Europe now are the remould companies, eco friendly tyres oat good prices. As you can see mine have done around 11k so far and you can barely see any wear at all, and I have an unused spare to compare them to. And 'country roads'? roads is roads! You wont see any rougher service for tyres than I give them, unless you go looking for it on pay and play sites etc.

At the end of the day you pay your money and take your choice, but I have had all sorts of remoulds and none remoulds on lots of 4x4s including General and BFG and I highly recommend these. I have also had 6 (I think) Terranos so I am pretty experienced with their driving characteristics. If your drive rougher places than me and over rougher roads on a daily basis and tow heavier trailers, forget the new tyres get a TANK! lol

But I did compare all of the remoulds I could find on the market against all of the new tyres and I chose these based on the design, load rating, speed rating, reputation and price - I am not disappointed in any way. My last new set of BFGs were so expensive I was frightened to drive on them!

have a look at their website http://www.malatesta.it/index.cfm?ar...ioni_en&lan=en

My set of five cost me under £350 fitted and balance compared to around £700/£800 for BFG, and as I run the risk of damaging them daily I recon I will always be quids in with these
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