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17-09-2013, 21:38 | #1 |
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Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: north derbyshire
Vehicle: Terrano '53
Posts: 31
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2.7 or 3.0?
Hi everyone new on here , i am a mechanic , maseratis & ferraris!, managed to avoid working any length on diesels .
I had a 2.7 51 plate terrano as a company car loved it but milage got to nearing 200k and did a deal to change for a subaru imp , nice but no terrano , so got me self a cheap (£650) mavarick '97 to smoke about in , now i've been looking at terranos again so whats better 2.7 or 3.0 ? Thoughts would be good Cheers Russ |
17-09-2013, 21:49 | #2 |
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Huddersfield
Vehicle: Terrano 03 LWB
Posts: 6,947
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3.0
Tax is not much more expensive, but the engine is more powerful and more economical. You don't hear too many complaints on here, but then again the 3.0 is much rarer. I think If I had a choice, id go for the 3.0 despite my experience being with the 2.7. Im fairly sure the 3.0 engine is as reliable though, but hopefully some of the guys on here will know better. |
17-09-2013, 21:50 | #3 |
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Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Mid-Wales
Vehicle: Maverick 2.7 - Patrol 4.2
Posts: 5,645
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2.7 any day, parts are so much easier to get ahold of.
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17-09-2013, 21:50 | #4 |
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Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Chippenham, Wiltshire
Vehicle: Patrol Y60
Posts: 116
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4.2
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17-09-2013, 21:50 | #5 |
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: West Yorkshire
Vehicle: Terrano II SE+ 2.7 2000
Posts: 915
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Both got pros and cons. 3.0 is more powerful, and better on juice. 2.7tdi Has no cambelt or chain to worry about, which for me is . Also runs on veg oil which for me is
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17-09-2013, 21:55 | #6 |
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: somerset
Vehicle: terrano
Posts: 1,947
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I just bought 3.0 so thats what ill go for but it does have broken gearbox
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17-09-2013, 22:02 | #7 |
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Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: north derbyshire
Vehicle: Terrano '53
Posts: 31
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Thanks for the replies been trawling ebay an autotrader this past week and nobody I know from the trade knows anything about either to be fair , must be moving in the wrong circles
Liking the 4.2 idea tho Think its going to be a late 2.7 , once borrowed a shogun bloody rubbish Russ |
17-09-2013, 22:06 | #8 |
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: stoke on trent
Vehicle: 2001 2.7 td lwb terrano
Posts: 2,740
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2.7.
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17-09-2013, 22:10 | #9 | |
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: stoke on trent
Vehicle: 2001 2.7 td lwb terrano
Posts: 2,740
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and then selling it it is in very well looked after condition but knowing him he will want top dollar. |
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17-09-2013, 22:15 | #10 |
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Hackenthorpe Sheffield
Vehicle: Terrano2 R20 lwb 2.7TDi
Posts: 5,234
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bit torn a 3.0 in my troll, had the known issues HGF, cracked pistons, was due all the turbo sensors so traded in went back to ol' faithful 2.7tdi our second terrano.
to be fair by time 3.0 went in terrano issues were sorted. but parts are more expensive and open heart surgery can be double the book hours. suppose if factor the better performance and mpg might be worth a punt oh and insurance will be higher. suppose could look at 2.7 and get a chip or re-map to about same output. or could just use loud pedal more....
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18-09-2013, 15:35 | #11 |
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Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Berkshire
Vehicle: Broke my 3.0 T2 Sport
Posts: 103
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Not had a 2.7 but I'm really happy with my 3.0
Got it with a brand new turbo fitted and new clutch & transfer box. Not without a couple of minor issues, but majority niggles are just every day common ones to both the 2.7 and 3.0 from what I've read here. I like the bit of extra power and better MPG the 3.0 gives me and that was the swaying factor. Insurance and tax didn't come out with all that much difference overall when I took everything into consideration too. Mine's been in to local mechanic recently to have the belt tensioner looked at and he said the 3.0 is as reliable as they come - should go on and on and on. I have no first hand experience of this as yet! lol The guys here know WAY more than me as this is my first T2. When I've searched for parts, 2.7 bits are more readily available (and cheaper), but then there seems to be plenty that are shared between the two, so not all bad. It depends what your priorities are. You can run the 2.7 on veg oil whereas the 3.0 you can't, so that pretty much takes care of the MPG argument I guess! Me, I'd buy a 3.0 again |
18-09-2013, 16:48 | #12 |
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Join Date: May 2013
Location: South Yorkshire..
Vehicle: Nissan Terrano MK 2 SE
Posts: 1,757
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More than happy with my 2.7TDI. The 3.0 does have more power.Maximum speed limit is 70mph,anyway.Mine would easily exceed that should i want to.I don't do any towing
so extra power is not a issue for. But one point,200k is not a awful lot,if it has been looked after/serviced.Good luck with your Ford Maverick. |
18-09-2013, 19:48 | #13 |
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Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: north derbyshire
Vehicle: Terrano '53
Posts: 31
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Thanks again , the mavs a good tool a bit tatty but good for chuckin me racin gear in without worrying , just want to upgrade still swaying towards 2.7 , better the devil you know and all that .
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18-09-2013, 20:07 | #14 |
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Staffordshire
Vehicle: Maverick Mk I 2.7 TD LWB
Posts: 7,825
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For me the 2.7 td ( non intercooler) is more reliable than the 2.7tdi ( intercooler) or the 3.0 litre.
Low technology, so less to go wrong. The 2.7 td gives more on road hours than garage hours, you spend more time driving it than working to pay for repairs. Re the 3.0 litre, the clutch is under a greater strain and so is the gearbox, I know the clutch is upgraded, but not sure about the gearbox, there have been a few issues here. As mentioned, the earlier Patrol 3 litre engines had a few issues, but resolved when fitted to the Terrano. More important is the history, oil changes, general fluid changes etc, and the dreaded tin worm can get a hold in places. Rustic
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18-09-2013, 20:12 | #15 |
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Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: surrey
Vehicle: Terrano 3.0 SVE
Posts: 100
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I've got a 3.0, so biased.
Downers? It doesn't run on veg oil (presumably cos of the pump?). Theres way more info and experience on here of the 2.7. Uppers? The bonnet has a bigger air scoop and looks better Ude the loud pedal, and the back end spins up and steps out. (this can also be a downer...) MPG? the difference must be negligible in the real world. I tend to drive it like a granny, unless there's a tinted window corsa next to me, and the MPG is crap the 3.0 makes a great noise too |
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