my lay shaft lamp

96terrano · 11-04-2013, 21:29

made this today, originally makeitfit's idea, made it from the 2nd lay-shaft from the Honda Jazz gearbox i recently dismantled

, will be making more and selling them

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96terrano · 11-04-2013, 21:30

Cut a groove in the lamp so the cable fits nicely, and still sits flush to the surface without wobbling

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Fez_uk · 11-04-2013, 21:31

hope it's earthed

96terrano · 11-04-2013, 21:33

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Originally Posted by Fez_uk

hope it's earthed

just a live & neutral as there's no earth on the plastic fitting

solarman216 · 11-04-2013, 21:44

none the less the gear must still be earthed, suppose the cable chaffed through to the live at the base = live gear not good, also looks a bit top heavy, but nice idea though, well done, Rick

96terrano · 11-04-2013, 22:01

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Originally Posted by solarman216

none the less the gear must still be earthed, suppose the cable chaffed through to the live at the base = live gear not good, also looks a bit top heavy, but nice idea though, well done, Rick

Ok, so if I run a earth from The socket plug and atach it to the shaft you won't get a shock? 'i don't know as much about mains'

It's not top heavy luckily, but the others I will be making will have the biggest gear at the bottom, so will by more pyramid shaped

Lazy-Ferret · 11-04-2013, 22:22

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Originally Posted by 96terrano

Ok, so if I run a earth from The socket plug and atach it to the shaft you won't get a shock? 'i don't know as much about mains'

It's not top heavy luckily, but the others I will be making will have the biggest gear at the bottom, so will by more pyramid shaped

Use 3 core wire, and run the live and neutral to the lamp holder, then crimp a ring terminal onto the Earth, and fix it firmly to the gears like you would an earth wire to the body of the car.

Very important, especially if you are planing on selling them. Really, you should have them "PAT" tested, and marked as well, just to cover yourself.

solarman216 · 11-04-2013, 22:23

Not quite, run a three core cable to the light and where it exits the top fix the earth wire to the gear, now that is a more interesting problem, you cannot drill it, you may be lucky and have a oil hole that you can feed the stripped end of wire through and drive in a tapper metal pin to hold the wire, but it must end up tight, once earthed what will happen if the life chafes is it will pop the fuse, Rick

MudLifeCrisis · 11-04-2013, 22:51

Just stick a candle in it

rustic · 12-04-2013, 01:00

No cable strain relief going into a metal aperture that isn't earthed...

As the others have said, you must use insulated 3 core cable and earth the metalwork.

What fuse rating are you using in the plug?
The smallest BS fuse is 3 amp, this is more than enough.

Sort out the strain relief at the point of cable entry.
You will then be "geared up" to make some more.

A very enlightening project.

Rustic

spiderpig37 · 12-04-2013, 03:35

Nice idea but i wouldnt use the chintzy designe shade

firebobby · 12-04-2013, 09:22

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Originally Posted by spiderpig37

Nice idea but i wouldnt use the chintzy designe shade

Yeah, you should use remnants of car interior...headlining or seat coverings.
Good idea though and good on you for coming up with the idea

Lazy-Ferret · 12-04-2013, 10:21

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Originally Posted by firebobby

Yeah, you should use remnants of car interior...headlining or seat coverings.
Good idea though and good on you for coming up with the idea

Great Idea, if he used the car lights, instead of a Mains bulb, he could have a 12volt double insulated plug transformer, to run it, then would not need to worry about earthing either...

96terrano · 12-04-2013, 10:39

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Originally Posted by rustic

No cable strain relief going into a metal aperture that isn't earthed...

As the others have said, you must use insulated 3 core cable and earth the metalwork.

What fuse rating are you using in the plug?
The smallest BS fuse is 3 amp, this is more than enough.

Sort out the strain relief at the point of cable entry.
You will then be "geared up" to make some more.

A very enlightening project.

Rustic

There is cable strain relief where the cable fits underneath

96terrano · 12-04-2013, 10:43

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Originally Posted by spiderpig37

Nice idea but i wouldnt use the chintzy designe shade

Aye, there's a different shade on is now, a smaller basic one

11-04-2013, 21:29	#1
96terrano Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Dumfries and Galloway, Scotland Vehicle: Nissan Terrano 2.7TD LWB Posts: 8,024	my lay shaft lamp made this today, originally makeitfit's idea, made it from the 2nd lay-shaft from the Honda Jazz gearbox i recently dismantled , will be making more and selling them 524472_618187414875349_689656535_n.jpg

11-04-2013, 21:44	#5
solarman216 Off road maniac Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bexhill on Sea Vehicle: Y60 Patrol Me, 3 ltr Mrs Posts: 17,432	none the less the gear must still be earthed, suppose the cable chaffed through to the live at the base = live gear not good, also looks a bit top heavy, but nice idea though, well done, Rick __________________ Ex banger racer now off road maniac Lokka on the front with manual hubs Diff lock on rear 3 inch SS straight through exhaust Manly winch bumper with 13000 lb winch 10 spike ground anchor, with multiple straps and blocks Super strong body cills capped with scaffold pole 20% stronger springs all round aggressive off road tyres on wheels so just swap. Aim to get stuck and be completely self sufficient in extraction, love getting muddy, 2ft deep is good but rare.

11-04-2013, 22:23	#8
solarman216 Off road maniac Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bexhill on Sea Vehicle: Y60 Patrol Me, 3 ltr Mrs Posts: 17,432	Not quite, run a three core cable to the light and where it exits the top fix the earth wire to the gear, now that is a more interesting problem, you cannot drill it, you may be lucky and have a oil hole that you can feed the stripped end of wire through and drive in a tapper metal pin to hold the wire, but it must end up tight, once earthed what will happen if the life chafes is it will pop the fuse, Rick __________________ Ex banger racer now off road maniac Lokka on the front with manual hubs Diff lock on rear 3 inch SS straight through exhaust Manly winch bumper with 13000 lb winch 10 spike ground anchor, with multiple straps and blocks Super strong body cills capped with scaffold pole 20% stronger springs all round aggressive off road tyres on wheels so just swap. Aim to get stuck and be completely self sufficient in extraction, love getting muddy, 2ft deep is good but rare.

12-04-2013, 01:00	#10
rustic Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Staffordshire Vehicle: Maverick Mk I 2.7 TD LWB Posts: 7,825	No cable strain relief going into a metal aperture that isn't earthed... As the others have said, you must use insulated 3 core cable and earth the metalwork. What fuse rating are you using in the plug? The smallest BS fuse is 3 amp, this is more than enough. Sort out the strain relief at the point of cable entry. You will then be "geared up" to make some more. A very enlightening project. Rustic __________________ Ford Maverick GLX 1995 2.7TD LWB in illusion silver, 98k miles. Owned since new, for 22 years. Best car I have ever owned. Just wish I could drive it more.

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96terrano Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Dumfries and Galloway, Scotland Vehicle: Nissan Terrano 2.7TD LWB Posts: 8,024	Cut a groove in the lamp so the cable fits nicely, and still sits flush to the surface without wobbling 18943_618221528205271_697743317_n.jpg

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Fez_uk Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mid-Wales Vehicle: Maverick 2.7 - Patrol 4.2 Posts: 5,644	hope it's earthed

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MudLifeCrisis Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: St Albans Herts Vehicle: 1997 Mav 2.7tdi lwb Posts: 1,377	Just stick a candle in it

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spiderpig37 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: doncaster south yorkshire Vehicle: nissan terrano t2+ Posts: 729	Nice idea but i wouldnt use the chintzy designe shade