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Old 18-07-2012, 09:03   #1
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Trying to buy another Terrano and suprised how rusty some are underneath. One recently advertised had a massive amount of welding done underneath for MOT, I looked at another yesterday, very clean topside but lots of quite advanced surface rust. Im sure with a couple of days agressive wire brushing and a good underseal it would last longer.

The lack of decent underseal was really obvious in comparisonespecially as it was parked next to a Disco, Landcruiser, freelander etc.

Is this a common issue? It was a 2001 btw.
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Old 18-07-2012, 16:08   #2
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Hi Tim, my old 2001 was immaculate up top but the under side was a different story, it was getting to the stage where bits of bodywork were moving if you pulled on them with a slight crunching noise

The 2005 model I have now has no signs of rust, I have given it a good coat of Bilt Hamber wax treatment
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Old 18-07-2012, 16:36   #3
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my 1998 maverick is in very good condition compared to the same year and newer ones I have seen on here. No welding required except wings and inner arch.

Chassis is in great condition, But I can see some welding needed on one of the cross members in a few years.
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Old 18-07-2012, 17:34   #4
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Well, you all expected me to post...
My 1995 maverick, no rust underneath, no rust on body either, only the steel in the mud flaps

So why is mine better?
Not a friday afternoon car
Owned from new
Waxoyled from day one
No serious off roading, all mud washed off on same day
Karcher underbody lance used often in the winter to remove salt deposits
Waxoyl topped up regularly.
Mav stored in integral garage, never put away wet, but if I have to, I switch on the wall mounted dehumidifier.
Paintwork regularly waxed.
No deep water fording, so no mud to collect in the sills.
Any maintenence required done asap after fault found, as garaged with plenty of room and good lighting.
Pride in the cars presentation.

Probably the main driving force in all this, is from having cars in the 70's that rotted in front of your eyes. I always thought, a bit of preventative maintenence could have stopped all these issues of rust.
But it all comes at a price...


TIME



But then these days I spend very little time in having to repair it, or even worse, paying somebody else.
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Old 18-07-2012, 17:38   #5
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wish I had a garage
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Old 18-07-2012, 17:45   #6
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wish i had the TIME
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Old 18-07-2012, 18:06   #7
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wish I worried
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Old 18-07-2012, 19:28   #9
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wish i had all the above especially the wall mounted dehumidifier
do you put cigars in it
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Old 18-07-2012, 19:38   #10
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Last week when NFU were trying to keep my custom the bloke kept asking me if I had a garage. I kept telling him it wont fit but he wouldn't have it

Anyhoo tomorrow mine will be back with 12 month ticket on it.

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Old 18-07-2012, 22:32   #11
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Trying to buy another Terrano and suprised how rusty some are underneath. One recently advertised had a massive amount of welding done underneath for MOT, I looked at another yesterday, very clean topside but lots of quite advanced surface rust. Im sure with a couple of days agressive wire brushing and a good underseal it would last longer.

The lack of decent underseal was really obvious in comparisonespecially as it was parked next to a Disco, Landcruiser, freelander etc.

Is this a common issue? It was a 2001 btw.
Watch out for underseal .... or more to the point what's under it!!

Underseal ontop of rust will only keep the rust out of sight, it will just carry on rusting under the underseal until one day Mr MOT man pokes it and it goes like weetabix

Rust needs to be treated to slow it down ( you will never stop it - the only cure is to cut it out ) once everything is clean shiny metal - you can underseal or paint it.

Waste oil is actually better at slowing down rust than wax oil. It soaks into the rust and forms a water repellent barrier. It has to be refreshed every year but it is very effective.

Wax oil creates a film over the area being treated but doesn't actually get deep down into those hard to get areas e.g where two surfaces are close together perhaps 1mm apart - great for some moisture to get in there and start corrosion - a nice coat of wax oil to seal it in

Hydraulic oil is also good for long lasting rust treatment,

Tip: Remove the back lights so you can see down inside the box section - if you are of a nervous disposition I recommend you look away and get your mate to look down there instead for fear of what may be lurking down in the depths .... who put all that Cadburys flake in there? !! - nice jet of oil needed in there.


Wheel arches : Remove the plastic trim - is it a case of the arch holding on the trim or the trim holding the arch together? .... as was the case with my T2 - It looked perfect until I decided to take the OFR arch off to replace it for a non scuffed one
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Well, you all expected me to post...
My 1995 maverick, no rust underneath, no rust on body either, only the steel in the mud flaps

So why is mine better?
Not a friday afternoon car
Owned from new
Waxoyled from day one
No serious off roading, all mud washed off on same day
Karcher underbody lance used often in the winter to remove salt deposits
Waxoyl topped up regularly.
Mav stored in integral garage, never put away wet, but if I have to, I switch on the wall mounted dehumidifier.
Paintwork regularly waxed.
No deep water fording, so no mud to collect in the sills.
Any maintenence required done asap after fault found, as garaged with plenty of room and good lighting.
Pride in the cars presentation.

Probably the main driving force in all this, is from having cars in the 70's that rotted in front of your eyes. I always thought, a bit of preventative maintenence could have stopped all these issues of rust.
But it all comes at a price...


TIME



But then these days I spend very little time in having to repair it, or even worse, paying somebody else.
You really take a pride in looking after your motor, anyone buying from you will get a first class bargain, good on you, I could not do what you do, Rick
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Old 19-07-2012, 11:29   #13
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Well, you all expected me to post...
My 1995 maverick, no rust underneath, no rust on body either, only the steel in the mud flaps

So why is mine better?
Not a friday afternoon car
Owned from new
Waxoyled from day one
No serious off roading, all mud washed off on same day
Karcher underbody lance used often in the winter to remove salt deposits
Waxoyl topped up regularly.
Mav stored in integral garage, never put away wet, but if I have to, I switch on the wall mounted dehumidifier.
Paintwork regularly waxed.
No deep water fording, so no mud to collect in the sills.
Any maintenence required done asap after fault found, as garaged with plenty of room and good lighting.
Pride in the cars presentation.

Probably the main driving force in all this, is from having cars in the 70's that rotted in front of your eyes. I always thought, a bit of preventative maintenence could have stopped all these issues of rust.
But it all comes at a price...


TIME



But then these days I spend very little time in having to repair it, or even worse, paying somebody else.
wow i wished i could do that but general car maintenance is all ways essential accept when you have kids then the internal cloth goes to pot

any ways on an brighter note when the kids get older you car will goes up in price because of less spillages no pen marks no shoe marks and peaceful driving
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Old 19-07-2012, 19:01   #14
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I think it started when I was a child, things were tight, so I learnt to look after everything so I didn't have to replace it.

In the long term it pays off, but if you get a poor motor, it doesn't matter how much effort you put in, it is still a poor motor. When we bought our first ever new car, it was a mk III escort, however, it was built during the strike at Halewood, so the body was placed outside and it was in primer only, and as a consequence the paintwork suffered blisters on the paint, mainly on the roof.

It had 3 complete resprays within the first year...

We got rid ASAP after that.
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Old 19-07-2012, 19:05   #15
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I think all this maintenance is irresponsible, just let it biodegrade naturally
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