Boycot EBay listings......."I reserve the right to remove"

Kamsin · 10-01-2011, 15:56

I want to start a "Ban EBay listings" protest. Why? sit down and will explain!

You see the advert, "For sale (Whatever your looking for)" with No Reserve and No buy it now price and its starting at 99p.

You read this listing, all sounds good, just what your looking for and at 99p opening bid, sounds great. Then you get to the "I reserve the right to remove this as it is advertised else where" clause.

What this really is, is a sellers way of cheap listings because they have not put a reserve price and as there is no buy it now its even cheaper for the advert, as ebay think it will get sold and get commision.

When you put a buy it now or a reserve price ebay charge you more for the listing as i may not sell.

Why should it bother you, lets say you see two items to bid on, but you dont want both, the 2nd item looks better but ends 2 days after the first one. You decide to bid on that one, the first one gets sold (not to you cos you did not bid) so your money is on the second one! you keep an eye on the bidding and your ahead, its at £10 and your max bid was £30 so you got £20 still to play with! YOUR WINNING, Its going to be yours........................ Right up to this.......... THIS ITEM HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM LISTING, DO NOT BID.

This is the seller cancelling the auction as its not made enough money and he dont want to sell it for £10, but he has escaped the large fee of the reserve sale price and the buy it now fee. So they stopped you getting either item!

A couple of days later the same item will go back up for sale with this statment.
"Re-listed due to non paying bidder" What it should say is "Re-listed cos i wanted more money for it."

If you see an add with "I reserve the right to remove as advertised else where" send them a message and ask them how much they have it advertised for and why is there no buy it now on the listing, as they know what they want to sell it for.

I bet they dont reply very offten.

(RIP) PLANK · 10-01-2011, 16:01

I htink it's all just part of the world of auctions, they have allways had an air of mystery and been viewed as a little bit underhand and seedy. That's just the way it is, no guarantees that you will win. An of course outsode of ebay no guarantees on the item you win.

I like auctions but you have to take toe rough with the smooth, weight things up and bid acordingly

10-01-2011, 16:20

were waiting on ebay to refund £165 for a saw won just before christmass the womman pattsmith550 sold it and load other stihl stuff didnt seend it then started a new acount a relisted it all! you cant escape ebay they own all sorts of other sites preloved etc plus theyve become ingrained in peoples minds,ive watched stihl clothing going for double its list price that i can go buy from local dealer and pay no postage!

makeitfit · 10-01-2011, 18:00

Ebay is full of sh1t procedures but you cant really do awt about.
Just learn the system and play it yourself, it's the only way.
As for "I reserve the right" borrox, they dont and cant, simples.
You could report them to ebay if you're that bothered and they'll remove it for you. It's against ebay rules

but so what?

YOU need to be smarter than the average bear on fleabay

(RIP) PLANK · 10-01-2011, 18:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by makeitfit

Ebay is full of sh1t procedures but you cant really do awt about.
Just learn the system and play it yourself, it's the only way.
As for "I reserve the right" borrox, they dont and cant, simples.
You could report them to ebay if you're that bothered and they'll remove it for you. It's against ebay rules

but so what?

YOU need to be smarter than the average bear on fleabay

but you do have the right to just remove it within the rules! Auctions allways have an element of risk.

I ordered a sticker for my 6 year old, £1.75 with free postage!

today I received it - no stamp on the envelope - cost me £1.32 and i had to drive to the sorting office to collect it!

10-01-2011, 18:11

tell the seller it never arrived get another sent and if u get a card saying postage owed leave it there lol!
i dont like the feedback i sold a broken phone spares repair to newengland1 he gets it says its broke wants £20 back i say fook off u cheeky c*nt he leaves negative feedback coz phones broke i have to leave a positive feedback no negative option i had to make do with negative comment with positive mark grrr needless to say i google street viewed his house and next time im in area ill knock on his door oh and blocked the imei wth voda

(RIP) PLANK · 10-01-2011, 18:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by jace

tell the seller it never arrived get another sent and if u get a card saying postage owed leave it there lol!

but i don't know what's in the envelope unitl i've paid and collected it

10-01-2011, 18:15

well how many times have you had it happen and if the time frames about right ignore it

(RIP) PLANK · 10-01-2011, 18:17

trouble is i get sent so much stuff, i honestly though this was some livestock transfer paper work i was waiting for from shropshire county council and was all set to phone up and moan until i realised what it was. Oh, well, sh loves the sticker any way

makeitfit · 10-01-2011, 18:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by PLANK

but you do have the right to just remove it within the rules! Auctions allways have an element of risk.

Yes but not because of the phrase "I reserve the right " blah blah. That is not allowed, but as I said who cares but ebay

Technically ebay can and do remove auctions with that excuse on them

Play the system, get your mates to bid, pull it before the end if bids too low,make some money on the post etc etc

10-01-2011, 18:35

remind me never to bid on one of your items lol!

makeitfit · 10-01-2011, 18:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by jace

remind me never to bid on one of your items lol!

You knows it

Fez_uk · 10-01-2011, 19:05

I agree play the system. Buyers tend to win just to not loose and pay over the odds, I've done it plenty of times. Sometimes just waiting for the item to arrive is more fun than the item.

But ebay is going downhill fast in my opinion and theres nothing we can do. I have been using it for over 5 years.

They know it's more important to keep buyers happy, Rather than the sellers. In terms of wonga.

extreme-4x4 · 10-01-2011, 19:12

he always bids on mine .... never kin pays when he wins either

just enjoy ebay for what it is .... a good way of selling your shite

cncfabs · 10-01-2011, 19:13

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/10508913

10-01-2011, 15:56	#1
Kamsin Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: East Midlands Vehicle: Maverick 4x4 2.7 TDI 97 Posts: 1,211	Boycot EBay listings......."I reserve the right to remove" I want to start a "Ban EBay listings" protest. Why? sit down and will explain! You see the advert, "For sale (Whatever your looking for)" with No Reserve and No buy it now price and its starting at 99p. You read this listing, all sounds good, just what your looking for and at 99p opening bid, sounds great. Then you get to the "I reserve the right to remove this as it is advertised else where" clause. What this really is, is a sellers way of cheap listings because they have not put a reserve price and as there is no buy it now its even cheaper for the advert, as ebay think it will get sold and get commision. When you put a buy it now or a reserve price ebay charge you more for the listing as i may not sell. Why should it bother you, lets say you see two items to bid on, but you dont want both, the 2nd item looks better but ends 2 days after the first one. You decide to bid on that one, the first one gets sold (not to you cos you did not bid) so your money is on the second one! you keep an eye on the bidding and your ahead, its at £10 and your max bid was £30 so you got £20 still to play with! YOUR WINNING, Its going to be yours........................ Right up to this.......... THIS ITEM HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM LISTING, DO NOT BID. This is the seller cancelling the auction as its not made enough money and he dont want to sell it for £10, but he has escaped the large fee of the reserve sale price and the buy it now fee. So they stopped you getting either item! A couple of days later the same item will go back up for sale with this statment. "Re-listed due to non paying bidder" What it should say is "Re-listed cos i wanted more money for it." If you see an add with "I reserve the right to remove as advertised else where" send them a message and ask them how much they have it advertised for and why is there no buy it now on the listing, as they know what they want to sell it for. I bet they dont reply very offten.

10-01-2011, 16:01	#2
(RIP) PLANK Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Central England, in the Heart of the Black Country Vehicle: T2 2004 TDI SE LWB Posts: 7,740	I htink it's all just part of the world of auctions, they have allways had an air of mystery and been viewed as a little bit underhand and seedy. That's just the way it is, no guarantees that you will win. An of course outsode of ebay no guarantees on the item you win. I like auctions but you have to take toe rough with the smooth, weight things up and bid acordingly

10-01-2011, 16:20	#3
jace Guest Posts: n/a	were waiting on ebay to refund £165 for a saw won just before christmass the womman pattsmith550 sold it and load other stihl stuff didnt seend it then started a new acount a relisted it all! you cant escape ebay they own all sorts of other sites preloved etc plus theyve become ingrained in peoples minds,ive watched stihl clothing going for double its list price that i can go buy from local dealer and pay no postage!

10-01-2011, 18:00	#4
makeitfit Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: on the beach WEST WALES Vehicle: Maverick TDi BLACK mmm Posts: 15,136	Ebay is full of sh1t procedures but you cant really do awt about. Just learn the system and play it yourself, it's the only way. As for "I reserve the right" borrox, they dont and cant, simples. You could report them to ebay if you're that bothered and they'll remove it for you. It's against ebay rules but so what? YOU need to be smarter than the average bear on fleabay

10-01-2011, 18:11	#6
jace Guest Posts: n/a	tell the seller it never arrived get another sent and if u get a card saying postage owed leave it there lol! i dont like the feedback i sold a broken phone spares repair to newengland1 he gets it says its broke wants £20 back i say fook off u cheeky c*nt he leaves negative feedback coz phones broke i have to leave a positive feedback no negative option i had to make do with negative comment with positive mark grrr needless to say i google street viewed his house and next time im in area ill knock on his door oh and blocked the imei wth voda

10-01-2011, 18:15	#8
jace Guest Posts: n/a	well how many times have you had it happen and if the time frames about right ignore it

10-01-2011, 18:17	#9
(RIP) PLANK Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Central England, in the Heart of the Black Country Vehicle: T2 2004 TDI SE LWB Posts: 7,740	trouble is i get sent so much stuff, i honestly though this was some livestock transfer paper work i was waiting for from shropshire county council and was all set to phone up and moan until i realised what it was. Oh, well, sh loves the sticker any way

10-01-2011, 18:35	#11
jace Guest Posts: n/a	remind me never to bid on one of your items lol!

10-01-2011, 19:05	#13
Fez_uk Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mid-Wales Vehicle: Maverick 2.7 - Patrol 4.2 Posts: 5,645	I agree play the system. Buyers tend to win just to not loose and pay over the odds, I've done it plenty of times. Sometimes just waiting for the item to arrive is more fun than the item. But ebay is going downhill fast in my opinion and theres nothing we can do. I have been using it for over 5 years. They know it's more important to keep buyers happy, Rather than the sellers. In terms of wonga.

10-01-2011, 19:12	#14
extreme-4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: WALES Posts: 6,295	he always bids on mine .... never kin pays when he wins either just enjoy ebay for what it is .... a good way of selling your shite

10-01-2011, 19:13	#15
cncfabs Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: somerset Vehicle: terrano Posts: 1,947	http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/10508913