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Old 07-01-2011, 15:56   #1
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Default new insurance law

If you let your insurance lapse, you have to send back your tax disc and sorn your car or you will be fined.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...ance/DG_186696

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If you are keeping your vehicle off the road, make sure that you have submitted a SORN declaration to DVLA. If the vehicle is taxed you need to return the disc (including nil value discs) to DVLA using a V14 form. You can make a SORN declaration at the same time as returning the disc on the V14.
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Old 07-01-2011, 16:05   #2
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that's bizzare, what about fleet cars and 'driver' poilcies and trade policies? wher individual cars are not insured.

it just gets worse
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Old 07-01-2011, 16:11   #3
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Makes my blood boil.....!!

I couldn't give a toss about the lawbreakers, thats what ANPR and policemen are for FFS.....so now I can't simply mind my own business and park my car up off the road and let insurance and tax lapse without informing Big Brother...

Mark my words, we'll all have in-car trackers before too long and you'll have no privacy whatsoever - who the **** does this government think they are????

Any half-decent crim doesn't bother registering his car does he! (BTW, anyone want to buy a Clio registered to some turkish bloke who's long since gone home?? LOL).

MIND YOUR OWN FECKING BUSINESS DVLA!!
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Old 07-01-2011, 16:15   #4
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that's bizzare, what about fleet cars and 'driver' poilcies and trade policies? wher individual cars are not insured.

it just gets worse
hasnt it changed here now tho that the car has to be on the docs or it is not insured
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Old 07-01-2011, 16:24   #5
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anything that gets uninsured drivers off the road has to be a good thing .... did you know you are 6 times more likely to be hit by a uninsured driver in bradford than anywhere else in the country ...... so why arent there more anpr cameras in bradford and why arent they doing something about it ?
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but its the same old argument that Dave has already lost ()

Theres already an MID so what bloody difference does it make whether you've SORN'd it or cancelled your insurance without telling anyone....either way it still shows up on ANPR as uninsured.
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ah but now with this you can have the car taxed and moted but if unisured you will get a £100 fine even if its in the garden

if you dont pay they come and get it lol
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ah but now with this you can have the car taxed and moted but if unisured you will get a £100 fine even if its in the garden

if you dont pay they come and get it lol
oh the joys of a democracy.....

funny how I don't remember voting for such shite?????????

Wait til Rick gets here!
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hasnt it changed here now tho that the car has to be on the docs or it is not insured
no, only for private owners, think about motor traders and repair garages etc. Alos fleet cars an hire cars etc. We had a mamber who got pulled by the police in the same way, while driving a perfectly legal car on a trade policy!

I agree with Lacroupade, I want them to get the bad guys (and girls) I just don't see the need to make life anymore difficult (or to be any more invasive into their lives) of the 99.99% of the popluation who are just going about their own buisness.
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Plans to tighten the law on driving without insurance, making it an offence to be the registered keeper of an uninsured vehicle regardless of whether it is being used, are expected to be confirmed by transport ministers today.

Failure to comply could result in a £1,000 fine and the seizure of the car.

Currently it is only an offence to drive without insurance, but under a scheme announced in January drivers must ensure that their cars are covered at all times unless they are unused and kept off the road, in which case they must register them as such to the DVLA.

Motoring organisations have welcomed the move against uninsured drivers, but said they feared that law-abiding motorists could be penalised for innocent mistakes, such as allowing their insurance to lapse while they are on holiday.
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"Latest public estimates are that around 1.5 million of all UK motorists drive uninsured. These drivers cost the UK about £500 million annually, which adds up to an average cost of an extra £30 per car insurance policy."

So, on the bright side, this time next year I will be able to treat myself to 30 quid's worth of diesel, or maybe a curry....?
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"Latest public estimates are that around 1.5 million of all UK motorists drive uninsured. These drivers cost the UK about £500 million annually, which adds up to an average cost of an extra £30 per car insurance policy."

So, on the bright side, this time next year I will be able to treat myself to 30 quid's worth of diesel, or maybe a curry....?
very good, i have 3 policies so i will have £90 to play with, not, they will find another reason to put it up again!

but how do these uninsuerd drivers cost the UK £500 million? to be honest i have no idea at all! do they also evade paying tax? or is the £500 million the lost tax revenue on 1.5 million policies? and if they are unregistered and uninsured how does anyone knnow how many there are, or how much they cost?
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They should put the price of tax and insurance on at the fuel pumps, that way everyone is taxed and insured for the miles they do

steve's Fuel price £132.99 a litre


Hmmmm, ok forget that idea

Although I reckon if the cost of car tax was put on fuel then everyone would pay the correct tax for the mileage they do
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They should put the price of tax and insurance on at the fuel pumps, that way everyone is taxed and insured for the miles they do

steve's Fuel price £132.99 a litre


Hmmmm, ok forget that idea

Although I reckon if the cost of car tax was put on fuel then everyone would pay the correct tax for the mileage they do
we get tax on a disc and on the fuel allready the tax we pay on fuel we shouldn't have to pay any road tax at all, they don't spend it on the roads anyway! So maybe a nominal £20 a year for a disc to prove your documents are up to date would be enough.
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DVLA are useless.
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