any advice on keeping livestock? - Page 2

dinky · 17-04-2009, 15:18

Goats good value lease out in summer for lawn cutting duties,sell to coloured cousins for dinner when too old.Sell milk tastes dffrent but better for you ,was brought up on it dont have cows milk at all.

(RIP) PLANK · 17-04-2009, 20:06

I will give pigs some thought for the future, I am willing to give it a try but the rest of the family dont like the idea.

The DEFRA paperwork i have been sent seems a bit heavy going! but apparetly when you buy it is up to the seller to complete the initial movement paperwork, and you have 36 hours after the move to complete it so, It may be less of a headache than it first appears. it is a worry though as the consequences of getting it wrong seem pretty harsh!

(RIP) PLANK · 17-04-2009, 20:09

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Originally Posted by dinky

Goats good value lease out in summer for lawn cutting duties,sell to coloured cousins for dinner when too old.Sell milk tastes dffrent but better for you ,was brought up on it dont have cows milk at all.

someone very close to me has goats for sale in milk as he is reducing his milking herd and i am going to take a look as i am tempted! though pople do recon shep make better lawn mowers, and with all the new DEFRA movement regulations moving them from lace to place is difficult and they can only graze on registered land, its all a bit complicated

is roast goat any good?

lacroupade · 17-04-2009, 20:14

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Originally Posted by PLANK

someone very close to me has goats for sale in milk as he is reducing his milking herd and i am going to take a look as i am tempted! though pople do recon shep make better lawn mowers, and with all the new DEFRA movement regulations moving them from lace to place is difficult and they can only graze on registered land, its all a bit complicated

is roast goat any good?

I think you'd have to ask an Iraqi!

Goats eat anything and everything, and escape a lot...piggy piggy piggy!

(RIP) PLANK · 17-04-2009, 20:28

from the info defra and the animal welfare people sent us it seems goats are more difficult to keep (properly) than you might first think, they are prone to all sorts of infections that they gain no natural imunity too, they are fussy eaters (in that they prefer to browse varied plant rather than grass) they climb, jump, destroy dry stone walls, etc. etc. hey need shelter as they get sun stroke and suffer in the cold eather, they need other goats for company as other wise they escape and suffer dstress, I am ondering if they are a good idea!

I may get one in my garden for milk and the novelty of it and leave it at that!

lacroupade · 17-04-2009, 20:36

Think you just talked yourself out of it very convincingly!

Plank it boils down to one thing; is it pets or money? If its pets then it doesn't matter what you get really - sheep need more grass than you'd think - but if its money then the piggy is streets ahead of the game..! and takes less space. oink oink!

http://www.britishkunekunesociety.org.uk/

they are a bit anal but its a useful site....

(RIP) PLANK · 17-04-2009, 21:06

you have convinced my, you will just have to convince 'her indoors' !

zippy656 · 17-04-2009, 21:17

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Originally Posted by PLANK

you have convinced my, you will just have to convince 'her indoors' !

just need to show her the numbers, im sure she'll see it your way in the end

if not pur your foot down with a firm hand!

extreme-4x4 · 17-04-2009, 21:35

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Originally Posted by zippy656

just need to show her the numbers, im sure she'll see it your way in the end

if not pur your foot down with a firm hand!

just like mrs zipps does

zippy656 · 17-04-2009, 21:38

hay

you been taling to her then have you bud?

extreme-4x4 · 17-04-2009, 21:41

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Originally Posted by zippy656

hay

you been taling to her then have you bud?

ohhhh yes... and what a girl

zippy656 · 17-04-2009, 21:44

she's sat next to me looking like this

extreme-4x4 · 17-04-2009, 21:48

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Originally Posted by zippy656

she's sat next to me looking like this

hello again mrs zipps

zippy656 · 17-04-2009, 21:52

she just waved when i said you said hello again

willow · 17-04-2009, 23:41

Hi Plank
Pigs and turkeys

and chickens of course if you have room ducks too all for meat and eggs
Pigs buy in weaners now and kill sept/ nov

Turkeys buy in growers in june kill december
Ducks muscoveys/pekin/magpie/cambells/aylesburyall good layers and meat again buy in may /june growers and kill december.
I keep 3 turkeys a breeding trio through the winter just because they are hard to get hold of in the spring.
Turkeys supply a lot of meat for very little input and so do pigs

Pigs need a good electric fencing to keep them in

but once they learn it they only send one member of the pack out each morning to check it is on

so never switch it off

Sheep get up every morning with one thing in mind...How can I kill myself today

Buy in may /june kill nov/dec no need for shearing or foot trimming

but only if you have grass and lots of it

Pigs can soon become pets but do not get tempted to keep them.
Good luck

17-04-2009, 15:18	#16
dinky Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SOCIALIST REPUBLIC OF SOUTH YORKSHIRE Vehicle: t20 lwb Posts: 1,238	Goats good value lease out in summer for lawn cutting duties,sell to coloured cousins for dinner when too old.Sell milk tastes dffrent but better for you ,was brought up on it dont have cows milk at all.

17-04-2009, 20:06	#17
(RIP) PLANK Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Central England, in the Heart of the Black Country Vehicle: T2 2004 TDI SE LWB Posts: 7,740	I will give pigs some thought for the future, I am willing to give it a try but the rest of the family dont like the idea. The DEFRA paperwork i have been sent seems a bit heavy going! but apparetly when you buy it is up to the seller to complete the initial movement paperwork, and you have 36 hours after the move to complete it so, It may be less of a headache than it first appears. it is a worry though as the consequences of getting it wrong seem pretty harsh!

17-04-2009, 20:28	#20
(RIP) PLANK Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Central England, in the Heart of the Black Country Vehicle: T2 2004 TDI SE LWB Posts: 7,740	from the info defra and the animal welfare people sent us it seems goats are more difficult to keep (properly) than you might first think, they are prone to all sorts of infections that they gain no natural imunity too, they are fussy eaters (in that they prefer to browse varied plant rather than grass) they climb, jump, destroy dry stone walls, etc. etc. hey need shelter as they get sun stroke and suffer in the cold eather, they need other goats for company as other wise they escape and suffer dstress, I am ondering if they are a good idea! I may get one in my garden for milk and the novelty of it and leave it at that!

17-04-2009, 20:36	#21
lacroupade Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: All hail to the Glove of Love... Posts: 9,212	Think you just talked yourself out of it very convincingly! Plank it boils down to one thing; is it pets or money? If its pets then it doesn't matter what you get really - sheep need more grass than you'd think - but if its money then the piggy is streets ahead of the game..! and takes less space. oink oink! http://www.britishkunekunesociety.org.uk/ they are a bit anal but its a useful site....

17-04-2009, 21:06	#22
(RIP) PLANK Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Central England, in the Heart of the Black Country Vehicle: T2 2004 TDI SE LWB Posts: 7,740	you have convinced my, you will just have to convince 'her indoors' !

17-04-2009, 21:38	#25
zippy656 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Devizes Wiltshire Vehicle: Nissan Note Ntec 1.5 Posts: 14,137	hay you been taling to her then have you bud?

17-04-2009, 21:44	#27
zippy656 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Devizes Wiltshire Vehicle: Nissan Note Ntec 1.5 Posts: 14,137	she's sat next to me looking like this

17-04-2009, 21:52	#29
zippy656 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Devizes Wiltshire Vehicle: Nissan Note Ntec 1.5 Posts: 14,137	she just waved when i said you said hello again

17-04-2009, 23:41	#30
willow Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Norfolk East Vehicle: terrano11 1995 TD Posts: 1,955	Hi Plank Pigs and turkeys and chickens of course if you have room ducks too all for meat and eggs Pigs buy in weaners now and kill sept/ nov Turkeys buy in growers in june kill december Ducks muscoveys/pekin/magpie/cambells/aylesburyall good layers and meat again buy in may /june growers and kill december. I keep 3 turkeys a breeding trio through the winter just because they are hard to get hold of in the spring. Turkeys supply a lot of meat for very little input and so do pigs Pigs need a good electric fencing to keep them in but once they learn it they only send one member of the pack out each morning to check it is on so never switch it off Sheep get up every morning with one thing in mind...How can I kill myself today Buy in may /june kill nov/dec no need for shearing or foot trimming but only if you have grass and lots of it Pigs can soon become pets but do not get tempted to keep them. Good luck