Newbie looking to come to the darkside

Projectblue · 30-07-2020, 21:21

Hello All,

After a lifetime of LR products, I've a need for a workhorse 4x4 and have shortlisted the Nissan Patrol. Looking for a LWB diesel manual YJ61 circa £5k.

That's about it. I'm off to scour the threads for what to look for

Projectblue · 30-07-2020, 21:59

Just adding I've paid my £10 cos I believe in supporting clubs like these, plus you always reap your membership fee back easy.

Barrbeast · 30-07-2020, 23:57

Welcome to the club dude

Once you go Trol you never go back

This is my 1990 4.2 diesel Y60 shorty, had a 2004 Y61 3.0 lwb before that.

Barrbeast · 31-07-2020, 00:28

On what to look for, main things are rust like with most 4x4s.

Y61 Trols are notorious for rusting at the radiator crossmember "the factory rust".

Apart from that, if you're looking at 3.0s I would try to stay clear of any 3.0 older than late 2003 when Nissan refined them - a lot of the early 3.0 engines were trash. Some of them are fine but it was the early ones established a bad rep for the 3.0 which has been hard for it to shift.

Later ones should be no bother as long as you keep them serviced. I had my 54 plate for 4 years, 3 of them as a daily, and she was modded and used and abused offroad throughout that time (and as far as I know is still going strong). I only sold her as I wanted a 4.2 and the right shorty came up at the right time.

I did some engine mods but if I was going to press you to do any of them I'd say fit a catch can. You can do others but I'd say catch can is the best if you have to pick one.

The number one rule with the 3.0 is that you need to do a bit of research before doing most engine mods as it's ECU controlled with various sensors and changing one factor can have an unwanted knock on affect.

Blanking the EGR is a classic example as if you don't adjust the turbo boost when you do it, you can cause the engine to start overboosting which then leads to bang time.

I blanked the EGR and had a straight through exhaust after the cat on my Y61 but I also lowered the spool rate to compensate and had no issues (I quite liked how the combination changed the characteristics).

Hope that's some help

solarman216 · 01-08-2020, 00:14

Hi and welcome, I got a Y60 manual pump and can do what I like with it no computer control for me, but they are rare, Rick

30-07-2020, 21:21	#1
Projectblue Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 5	Newbie looking to come to the darkside Hello All, After a lifetime of LR products, I've a need for a workhorse 4x4 and have shortlisted the Nissan Patrol. Looking for a LWB diesel manual YJ61 circa £5k. That's about it. I'm off to scour the threads for what to look for

01-08-2020, 00:14	#5
solarman216 Off road maniac Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bexhill on Sea Vehicle: Y60 Patrol Me, 3 ltr Mrs Posts: 17,428	Hi and welcome, I got a Y60 manual pump and can do what I like with it no computer control for me, but they are rare, Rick __________________ Ex banger racer now off road maniac Lokka on the front with manual hubs Diff lock on rear 3 inch SS straight through exhaust Manly winch bumper with 13000 lb winch 10 spike ground anchor, with multiple straps and blocks Super strong body cills capped with scaffold pole 20% stronger springs all round aggressive off road tyres on wheels so just swap. Aim to get stuck and be completely self sufficient in extraction, love getting muddy, 2ft deep is good but rare.

30-07-2020, 21:59	#2
Projectblue Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 5	Just adding I've paid my £10 cos I believe in supporting clubs like these, plus you always reap your membership fee back easy.

30-07-2020, 23:57	#3
Barrbeast Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Dundee, Scotland Vehicle: 1990 4.2 SWB Safari Posts: 2,615	Welcome to the club dude Once you go Trol you never go back This is my 1990 4.2 diesel Y60 shorty, had a 2004 Y61 3.0 lwb before that.

31-07-2020, 00:28	#4
Barrbeast Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Dundee, Scotland Vehicle: 1990 4.2 SWB Safari Posts: 2,615	On what to look for, main things are rust like with most 4x4s. Y61 Trols are notorious for rusting at the radiator crossmember "the factory rust". Apart from that, if you're looking at 3.0s I would try to stay clear of any 3.0 older than late 2003 when Nissan refined them - a lot of the early 3.0 engines were trash. Some of them are fine but it was the early ones established a bad rep for the 3.0 which has been hard for it to shift. Later ones should be no bother as long as you keep them serviced. I had my 54 plate for 4 years, 3 of them as a daily, and she was modded and used and abused offroad throughout that time (and as far as I know is still going strong). I only sold her as I wanted a 4.2 and the right shorty came up at the right time. I did some engine mods but if I was going to press you to do any of them I'd say fit a catch can. You can do others but I'd say catch can is the best if you have to pick one. The number one rule with the 3.0 is that you need to do a bit of research before doing most engine mods as it's ECU controlled with various sensors and changing one factor can have an unwanted knock on affect. Blanking the EGR is a classic example as if you don't adjust the turbo boost when you do it, you can cause the engine to start overboosting which then leads to bang time. I blanked the EGR and had a straight through exhaust after the cat on my Y61 but I also lowered the spool rate to compensate and had no issues (I quite liked how the combination changed the characteristics). Hope that's some help