Patrol Headlights...

Jay666d · 10-06-2017, 21:02

So I have decided to change my headlights.

My Patrol has had HID conversions on since the day I bought it and I hate them.

I hate the way other drivers feel they need to flash at me to turn off high beam.
I hate the way high beam makes no difference to the darkness in front.
I hate the way they have scorched the original reflectors.
I hate the way they have to warm up.
I hate the way sometimes one decides not to come on and I have to turn them off and on again.

Did I mention I hate them?

So I need some new headlights and I'm just going to put some decent Night Breakers in them...

Looking at the headlights available for my year and model, and I think I will have to get the manually adjusted version. (i.e, I wont be able to use the little numbered control in the cab to raise and lower the beam angle)

I had wondered, because I can't seem to find an answer, if the headlights from the 2005 (GU4) shape onwards might fit?

I know that the headlights and indicators in mine are two separate bits, and in the newer shape they are one whole unit... But the general shape of the lights look like they may fit?

Oh wat to do!?

Davey Boy · 10-06-2017, 23:03

Jay, I feel your pain...
There is a slight body shape quirk which means the 05's don't fit. It's on the front of the wing panel I think.
I have been looking for a replacement drivers-side motorised headlamp for about a year now.
I'm refusing to pay £300 to Nissan for a new unit, so I'm hanging on and trawling for a breaker to come up with one to match the off-side headlamp. One of the curses of owning a 04 changeover model I guess.

Jay666d · 11-06-2017, 00:02

Hmmm.

Is your motor broken?

What I think I might do is buy the non motorised ones and either:

a) Live without the adjustment function.
b) Bake the headlights and swap the reflectors over.

I did even consider buying some Projectors and retrofitting them into the lights. (Also requires baking!)

Davey Boy · 11-06-2017, 09:18

Haha, my motor is good thanks, but with a small bullet hole in the glass lens which has meant the mirrored reflector has oxidised.
The non-motorised lamps are out there, it's finding right-hand drive ones.
The 'D' fog lamp underneath has suffered the same fate to...odd.
Previous owner behaviour!
I've seen someone do a reflector swap to good effect on the Aussie forum.
What do you mean by 'baking', this sounds interesting!

Jay666d · 11-06-2017, 09:37

These are all for RHD cars.

https://www.bestpartstore.co.uk/ersa...0&car_id=14902

Jay666d · 11-06-2017, 09:39

Baking.

When you remove the headlight from the car, you put it in the oven to melt the silicone seal.

Then you can pull off the lens to get to the reflector inside.

Jay666d · 11-06-2017, 09:47

https://youtu.be/anN0vYBj6Uo

Jay666d · 11-06-2017, 22:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay666d

These are all for RHD cars.

https://www.bestpartstore.co.uk/ersa...0&car_id=14902

Was about to buy off this site, but now I'm questioning whether they will be right?

I stated that the headlights on this site were for RHD cars, but the wording actually says "Right-Hand Traffic"

Davey Boy · 11-06-2017, 22:35

You beat me to it, I was thinking the same thing.
Some suppliers refer to handing from within the vehicle, and others from outside looking at the vehicle also.
In this case, I've a funny feeling there for driving on the right hand side. As you say.

don simon · 11-06-2017, 22:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay666d

Was about to buy off this site, but now I'm questioning whether they will be right?

I stated that the headlights on this site were for RHD cars, but the wording actually says "Right-Hand Traffic"

Pop them an email, most Germans speak reasonable English. But you're probably correct in the assumption.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-...t-hand_traffic

Davey Boy · 11-06-2017, 22:41

I agree, I would deffo contact a seller regarding handing of anything unless they have an illustration/description of their interpretation.

Jay666d · 12-06-2017, 00:10

Good advice... Sent a quick email away to them just now.

Jay666d · 12-06-2017, 00:12

Also, Just for reference.

LOW BEAM

HIGH BEAM

I've gone into a bit more detail on my build thread.

Davey Boy · 12-06-2017, 17:00

I don't know too much about HID lights Jay, but can't you just convert the ones you have, back to original instead of buying new units?
Scrub that, I've just seen the reason on your Build thread.

Jay666d · 12-06-2017, 20:29

Tonight we will have the answers... I've taken out the HID's and have installed the Halogens.

Pictures to follow...

10-06-2017, 21:02	#1
Jay666d Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Northumberland Vehicle: Patrol GU3 (Y61) 3.0 SVE Posts: 1,375	Patrol Headlights... So I have decided to change my headlights. My Patrol has had HID conversions on since the day I bought it and I hate them. I hate the way other drivers feel they need to flash at me to turn off high beam. I hate the way high beam makes no difference to the darkness in front. I hate the way they have scorched the original reflectors. I hate the way they have to warm up. I hate the way sometimes one decides not to come on and I have to turn them off and on again. Did I mention I hate them? So I need some new headlights and I'm just going to put some decent Night Breakers in them... Looking at the headlights available for my year and model, and I think I will have to get the manually adjusted version. (i.e, I wont be able to use the little numbered control in the cab to raise and lower the beam angle) I had wondered, because I can't seem to find an answer, if the headlights from the 2005 (GU4) shape onwards might fit? I know that the headlights and indicators in mine are two separate bits, and in the newer shape they are one whole unit... But the general shape of the lights look like they may fit? Oh wat to do!?

10-06-2017, 23:03	#2
Davey Boy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Dartmoor Vehicle: Patrol ZD30 SVE Posts: 960	Jay, I feel your pain... There is a slight body shape quirk which means the 05's don't fit. It's on the front of the wing panel I think. I have been looking for a replacement drivers-side motorised headlamp for about a year now. I'm refusing to pay £300 to Nissan for a new unit, so I'm hanging on and trawling for a breaker to come up with one to match the off-side headlamp. One of the curses of owning a 04 changeover model I guess.

11-06-2017, 00:02	#3
Jay666d Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Northumberland Vehicle: Patrol GU3 (Y61) 3.0 SVE Posts: 1,375	Hmmm. Is your motor broken? What I think I might do is buy the non motorised ones and either: a) Live without the adjustment function. b) Bake the headlights and swap the reflectors over. I did even consider buying some Projectors and retrofitting them into the lights. (Also requires baking!)

11-06-2017, 09:18	#4
Davey Boy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Dartmoor Vehicle: Patrol ZD30 SVE Posts: 960	Haha, my motor is good thanks, but with a small bullet hole in the glass lens which has meant the mirrored reflector has oxidised. The non-motorised lamps are out there, it's finding right-hand drive ones. The 'D' fog lamp underneath has suffered the same fate to...odd. Previous owner behaviour! I've seen someone do a reflector swap to good effect on the Aussie forum. What do you mean by 'baking', this sounds interesting!

11-06-2017, 09:37	#5
Jay666d Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Northumberland Vehicle: Patrol GU3 (Y61) 3.0 SVE Posts: 1,375	These are all for RHD cars. https://www.bestpartstore.co.uk/ersa...0&car_id=14902

11-06-2017, 09:39	#6
Jay666d Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Northumberland Vehicle: Patrol GU3 (Y61) 3.0 SVE Posts: 1,375	Baking. When you remove the headlight from the car, you put it in the oven to melt the silicone seal. Then you can pull off the lens to get to the reflector inside.

11-06-2017, 09:47	#7
Jay666d Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Northumberland Vehicle: Patrol GU3 (Y61) 3.0 SVE Posts: 1,375	https://youtu.be/anN0vYBj6Uo

11-06-2017, 22:35	#9
Davey Boy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Dartmoor Vehicle: Patrol ZD30 SVE Posts: 960	You beat me to it, I was thinking the same thing. Some suppliers refer to handing from within the vehicle, and others from outside looking at the vehicle also. In this case, I've a funny feeling there for driving on the right hand side. As you say.

11-06-2017, 22:41	#11
Davey Boy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Dartmoor Vehicle: Patrol ZD30 SVE Posts: 960	I agree, I would deffo contact a seller regarding handing of anything unless they have an illustration/description of their interpretation.

12-06-2017, 00:10	#12
Jay666d Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Northumberland Vehicle: Patrol GU3 (Y61) 3.0 SVE Posts: 1,375	Good advice... Sent a quick email away to them just now.

12-06-2017, 00:12	#13
Jay666d Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Northumberland Vehicle: Patrol GU3 (Y61) 3.0 SVE Posts: 1,375	Also, Just for reference. LOW BEAM HIGH BEAM I've gone into a bit more detail on my build thread.

12-06-2017, 17:00	#14
Davey Boy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Dartmoor Vehicle: Patrol ZD30 SVE Posts: 960	I don't know too much about HID lights Jay, but can't you just convert the ones you have, back to original instead of buying new units? Scrub that, I've just seen the reason on your Build thread.

12-06-2017, 20:29	#15
Jay666d Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Northumberland Vehicle: Patrol GU3 (Y61) 3.0 SVE Posts: 1,375	Tonight we will have the answers... I've taken out the HID's and have installed the Halogens. Pictures to follow...