New to 4x4 - Page 2

jims-terrano · 29-01-2017, 20:07

The wiring loom to the rear lights runs behind the inner boot trims at passenger side. The wiring loom is wrapped in black insulation tape. Basically strip the tape off a section and then make your joints there between vehicle wiring loom and your black 7 core cable from the socket.

Have just checked and the how to guide gives you the colours of the vehicle wiring loom.

Just to clarify I don't mean a dedicated plug in wiring kit. I meant make your own connections and don't forget to ensure theres no bare wires exposed.

jims-terrano · 29-01-2017, 20:10

As for cd changer, ive seen them located in different places. Both mine were exactly same model, needed a cartridge to put your cd's in and then the cartridge loads into the changer.

Lazy-Ferret · 29-01-2017, 20:38

Not being rude, but if you do not know the simple bits like why there are two wires, and how they relate to the socket, plus you mention the indicators, but have not mentioned the indicator and warning controller device, I would be inclined to pay for someone else to do the wiring side of it...

I only say this, as I have just sorted the towbar wiring out on my wife's car, and it was obviously wired up by someone who had no idea what they were doing, and because of that, it had nearly set fire to the carpets in the car. That and all the dodgy Scotch lock connectors behind the bumper caused the wires to corrode and snap, resulting in the rear lights keep failing until I took the rear bumper off, and re-did all the wiring properly.

When you add the wires for a towbar, you are messing with all the lighting circuits on your car, and running them to a single point of failure, so any mistakes, and you very easily loose all your cars important lights.

Also if you are determined to have a go, then at the very least add some fail safes, like using a 7 Way universal bypass relay, which at least keeps the towbar socket isolated from the car lighting circuits, reducing any problems should the rear socket get damaged.

When The lady smashed into my caravan, the socket on my car was smashed to pieces and several of the lights on the rear of the caravan were all shorted together, but only the feed fuse for the bypass relay blew on the car, and all the car lights still functioned.

Lazy-Ferret · 29-01-2017, 21:08

By the way, when connecting to the cars wiring loom, I have found these connectors a very neat way of doing things... You just cut the wire, fit a 1/4" 6mm spade on each of the ends, and then re-join them with one of these, leaving you a spare connector or two for connection to the towbar electrics or what ever else you are adding.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_od...ocket&_sacat=0

Blocky10 · 30-01-2017, 01:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbie22

Also where is the cd changer?

As In how do I put a cd in

Under the drivers seat. Get ya head under there. Slide the door open and push the eject button.

newbie22 · 30-01-2017, 08:19

Thanks for the info guys

think I've got the idea now just borrow a continuity tester and ill go for it

as for the diff oil ill look into that soon

just the cd changer to find now

macabethiel · 30-01-2017, 16:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazy-Ferret

By the way, when connecting to the cars wiring loom, I have found these connectors a very neat way of doing things... You just cut the wire, fit a 1/4" 6mm spade on each of the ends, and then re-join them with one of these, leaving you a spare connector or two for connection to the towbar electrics or what ever else you are adding.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_od...ocket&_sacat=0

Never seen this type of connector before they look pretty good.

macabethiel · 30-01-2017, 16:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbie22

Thanks for the info guys

think I've got the idea now just borrow a continuity tester and ill go for it

as for the diff oil ill look into that soon

just the cd changer to find now

Can't be many places to hide the CD changer, under front or rear seats, rear boot area including any cuby holes, glove box, center arm rest or under dash.

If the loading cassette is missing might not quite look like you expect.
Worst case scenario is the last owner removed the unit.

newbie22 · 01-02-2017, 21:35

Thanks for the information

I have found the cd changer and all seems to work

I have found a bung in the middle of the boot floor to feed 7 core tow wires through. Is the bung you mean?
I have bought a 7way bypass relay so I will have a go tomorrow/Friday

Only faults now are the writing on cd player is hardly showing as In can't read it and airbag light is flashing

Cheers guys can't wait to tow with the terrano this weekend

newbie22 · 01-02-2017, 21:40

And does anyone recommend where to put the earth, where to put the bypass relay and where to connect to the lighting wires
I found that by rear passenger door is accessible
As by rear wheel arch I can't get plastic trim off

zippy656 · 01-02-2017, 21:57

Did some one say pics!!!!

Welcome..... I'm no help, this lot don't even like my jokes!

Banshee · 01-02-2017, 23:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbie22

Thanks for the information

I have found the cd changer and all seems to work

I have found a bung in the middle of the boot floor to feed 7 core tow wires through. Is the bung you mean?
I have bought a 7way bypass relay so I will have a go tomorrow/Friday

Only faults now are the writing on cd player is hardly showing as In can't read it and airbag light is flashing

Cheers guys can't wait to tow with the terrano this weekend

You're going to struggle with the Stereo mate, the one in my Grandad's 3 litre is awful, I looked on eBay for 2nd hand headunits and they are very scarse, I then started looking for a new LCD screen to solder in and hit a brick wall there too

29-01-2017, 20:07	#16
jims-terrano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 12,965	The wiring loom to the rear lights runs behind the inner boot trims at passenger side. The wiring loom is wrapped in black insulation tape. Basically strip the tape off a section and then make your joints there between vehicle wiring loom and your black 7 core cable from the socket. Have just checked and the how to guide gives you the colours of the vehicle wiring loom. Just to clarify I don't mean a dedicated plug in wiring kit. I meant make your own connections and don't forget to ensure theres no bare wires exposed.

29-01-2017, 20:10	#17
jims-terrano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 12,965	As for cd changer, ive seen them located in different places. Both mine were exactly same model, needed a cartridge to put your cd's in and then the cartridge loads into the changer.

29-01-2017, 20:38	#18
Lazy-Ferret Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Sevenoaks, Kent Vehicle: Terrano 2.7TDi SE Touring Posts: 5,221	Not being rude, but if you do not know the simple bits like why there are two wires, and how they relate to the socket, plus you mention the indicators, but have not mentioned the indicator and warning controller device, I would be inclined to pay for someone else to do the wiring side of it... I only say this, as I have just sorted the towbar wiring out on my wife's car, and it was obviously wired up by someone who had no idea what they were doing, and because of that, it had nearly set fire to the carpets in the car. That and all the dodgy Scotch lock connectors behind the bumper caused the wires to corrode and snap, resulting in the rear lights keep failing until I took the rear bumper off, and re-did all the wiring properly. When you add the wires for a towbar, you are messing with all the lighting circuits on your car, and running them to a single point of failure, so any mistakes, and you very easily loose all your cars important lights. Also if you are determined to have a go, then at the very least add some fail safes, like using a 7 Way universal bypass relay, which at least keeps the towbar socket isolated from the car lighting circuits, reducing any problems should the rear socket get damaged. When The lady smashed into my caravan, the socket on my car was smashed to pieces and several of the lights on the rear of the caravan were all shorted together, but only the feed fuse for the bypass relay blew on the car, and all the car lights still functioned.

29-01-2017, 21:08	#19
Lazy-Ferret Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Sevenoaks, Kent Vehicle: Terrano 2.7TDi SE Touring Posts: 5,221	By the way, when connecting to the cars wiring loom, I have found these connectors a very neat way of doing things... You just cut the wire, fit a 1/4" 6mm spade on each of the ends, and then re-join them with one of these, leaving you a spare connector or two for connection to the towbar electrics or what ever else you are adding. http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_od...ocket&_sacat=0

30-01-2017, 08:19	#21
newbie22 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Wales Vehicle: Nissan terrano 3.0 sve Posts: 14	Thanks for the info guys think I've got the idea now just borrow a continuity tester and ill go for it as for the diff oil ill look into that soon just the cd changer to find now

01-02-2017, 21:35	#24
newbie22 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Wales Vehicle: Nissan terrano 3.0 sve Posts: 14	Thanks for the information I have found the cd changer and all seems to work I have found a bung in the middle of the boot floor to feed 7 core tow wires through. Is the bung you mean? I have bought a 7way bypass relay so I will have a go tomorrow/Friday Only faults now are the writing on cd player is hardly showing as In can't read it and airbag light is flashing Cheers guys can't wait to tow with the terrano this weekend

01-02-2017, 21:40	#25
newbie22 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Wales Vehicle: Nissan terrano 3.0 sve Posts: 14	And does anyone recommend where to put the earth, where to put the bypass relay and where to connect to the lighting wires I found that by rear passenger door is accessible As by rear wheel arch I can't get plastic trim off

01-02-2017, 21:57	#26
zippy656 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Devizes Wiltshire Vehicle: Nissan Note Ntec 1.5 Posts: 14,138	Did some one say pics!!!! Welcome..... I'm no help, this lot don't even like my jokes!