House Door Key Barrel

jims-terrano · 13-05-2014, 17:11

Does anyone know how to change the key barrel for UPC doors? The type of barrel that is keyhole shaped if you know what I mean.

CliveG · 13-05-2014, 17:43

If they're anything like the ones here in France(seem to be a standard style across modern double glazing) then you can get replacement barrels and keys from most DIY shops.The only difference I've found is the depth of the barrels.On the ones I've changed they are fixed with one screw through the edge(jamb?) of the door and are pretty straight forward to change.Don't forget to tell the wife!

supergnome · 13-05-2014, 19:05

Yes Jim. They are easy to do 5 Mins Max. These are called Euro locks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rmw3IQMl3Ts
see even a woman can do it.
It's very imortant to fit a good replacement . Will send a link if you like.

supergnome · 13-05-2014, 19:10

These are recommended by West yorkshire police. Make sure you measure the lock correctly or it will stick out or be recesed
[url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Avocet-ABS-3-Star-High-Security-Euro-Cylinder-UPVC-Door-Lock-Anti-Snap-Bump-Pick-/111159906640?pt=UK_HaG_Lock_Safes_GL&var=&hash=item19e1a59150[/ur
Huddersfield seller,http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Avocet-ABS-3-Star-High-Security-Euro-Cylinder-UPVC-Door-Lock-Anti-Snap-Bump-Pick-/261478635017?pt=UK_HaG_Lock_Safes_GL&hash=item3ce1575609

rustic · 13-05-2014, 19:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by CliveG

If they're anything like the ones here in France(seem to be a standard style across modern double glazing) then you can get replacement barrels and keys from most DIY shops.The only difference I've found is the depth of the barrels.On the ones I've changed they are fixed with one screw through the edge(jamb?) of the door and are pretty straight forward to change.Don't forget to tell the wife!

As above, you can buy Euro locks from Screwfix or Toolstation.
You can buy them in different lengths, eg 45mm/40mm which means one side sticks out more than the other, so you need to measure what you have.

When you look at screwfix, you will see how the fixing screw fits, in the centre.
You will need the key to centre the pawl that trips the mechanism in order to remove it.
IF... the screw can be removed it is only a 5 minute job.

So take a look to check what you need.

Best regards, Rustic

supergnome · 13-05-2014, 20:44

What ever you get make sure it meets or exceeds the requirements of your house insurance.
Once you take out the center bolt tilt the key to 11 or 1 O'clock and pull out from the inside.

jims-terrano · 13-05-2014, 22:35

Cheers guys, I'm calling at a local security specialist on way home tomorrow. Big &Queer are showing them from £8 to £42, don't normally like quality from the big chain DIY stores so I'll see what this place have. Yeah I'd heard about this bumping to get through those locks.

My daughters school thinks that her blazer has been taken by mistake by another pupil complete with the door key. I ain't taking any chances so I'm replacing it, it'll cost a fortune in spare keys though

but safe rather than sorry.

larson · 13-05-2014, 22:55

jim what is bumpin

jims-terrano · 13-05-2014, 22:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by larson

jim what is bumpin

Breaking into a door with a standard euro lock. Shocking how easy it is unfortunately, probably looks and sounds easier than it is tho.

larson · 13-05-2014, 23:00

i can do it less than 20 seconds.. easily

inlaw was a maintenance guy for house letting agency and i seen him do it a few times when tennets run off without paying the bill

brettgilbert77 · 13-05-2014, 23:16

If you're worried about the security of the euro cylinder lock you will want to ensure you get an anti-bump anti-snap one.
They will be a little more expensive, but the standard ones snap in the middle when force is applied allowing you to unlock the door in seconds.
I fit these for a housing association all the time, we fit standard ones to the flat doors in-case we need to re-posess a property, but the external locks are all higher security.

larson · 14-05-2014, 10:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by brettgilbert77

If you're worried about the security of the euro cylinder lock you will want to ensure you get an anti-bump anti-snap one.
They will be a little more expensive, but the standard ones snap in the middle when force is applied allowing you to unlock the door in seconds.
I fit these for a housing association all the time, we fit standard ones to the flat doors in-case we need to re-posess a property, but the external locks are all higher security.

don't want to give you nightmares but put the stronger ones on its still 20 seconds top side. but the stronger ones will keep more people out

13-05-2014, 17:11	#1
jims-terrano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 12,965	House Door Key Barrel Does anyone know how to change the key barrel for UPC doors? The type of barrel that is keyhole shaped if you know what I mean.

13-05-2014, 19:10	#4
supergnome Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Isle of Axholme Vehicle: T2, 2.7 TDI 2002 lwb Posts: 955	These are recommended by West yorkshire police. Make sure you measure the lock correctly or it will stick out or be recesed [url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Avocet-ABS-3-Star-High-Security-Euro-Cylinder-UPVC-Door-Lock-Anti-Snap-Bump-Pick-/111159906640?pt=UK_HaG_Lock_Safes_GL&var=&hash=item19e1a59150[/ur Huddersfield seller,http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Avocet-ABS-3-Star-High-Security-Euro-Cylinder-UPVC-Door-Lock-Anti-Snap-Bump-Pick-/261478635017?pt=UK_HaG_Lock_Safes_GL&hash=item3ce1575609 Last edited by supergnome; 13-05-2014 at 19:18. Reason: more information

13-05-2014, 17:43	#2
CliveG Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: France Vehicle: nissan patrol gr y60 Posts: 265	If they're anything like the ones here in France(seem to be a standard style across modern double glazing) then you can get replacement barrels and keys from most DIY shops.The only difference I've found is the depth of the barrels.On the ones I've changed they are fixed with one screw through the edge(jamb?) of the door and are pretty straight forward to change.Don't forget to tell the wife!

13-05-2014, 19:05	#3
supergnome Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Isle of Axholme Vehicle: T2, 2.7 TDI 2002 lwb Posts: 955	Yes Jim. They are easy to do 5 Mins Max. These are called Euro locks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rmw3IQMl3Ts see even a woman can do it. It's very imortant to fit a good replacement . Will send a link if you like.

13-05-2014, 20:44	#6
supergnome Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Isle of Axholme Vehicle: T2, 2.7 TDI 2002 lwb Posts: 955	What ever you get make sure it meets or exceeds the requirements of your house insurance. Once you take out the center bolt tilt the key to 11 or 1 O'clock and pull out from the inside.

13-05-2014, 22:35	#7
jims-terrano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 12,965	Cheers guys, I'm calling at a local security specialist on way home tomorrow. Big &Queer are showing them from £8 to £42, don't normally like quality from the big chain DIY stores so I'll see what this place have. Yeah I'd heard about this bumping to get through those locks. My daughters school thinks that her blazer has been taken by mistake by another pupil complete with the door key. I ain't taking any chances so I'm replacing it, it'll cost a fortune in spare keys though but safe rather than sorry.

13-05-2014, 22:55	#8
larson Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: moomin vally Posts: 1,138	jim what is bumpin

13-05-2014, 23:00	#10
larson Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: moomin vally Posts: 1,138	i can do it less than 20 seconds.. easily inlaw was a maintenance guy for house letting agency and i seen him do it a few times when tennets run off without paying the bill

13-05-2014, 23:16	#11
brettgilbert77 Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Bristol Vehicle: Nissan Terrano II 2.7 TDi Posts: 97	If you're worried about the security of the euro cylinder lock you will want to ensure you get an anti-bump anti-snap one. They will be a little more expensive, but the standard ones snap in the middle when force is applied allowing you to unlock the door in seconds. I fit these for a housing association all the time, we fit standard ones to the flat doors in-case we need to re-posess a property, but the external locks are all higher security.